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-----Original Message----- From: Adib Masumian <adibmasum...@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:36:58 To: Baha'i Studies<bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Subject: Re: Drugs other than Alcohol and Opium The Baha'i Studies Listserv >That's a dead link, so I'm not sure what you are talking about. I don't know the reference either but I think he meant http://www.bahaiprayers.org. On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Adib answered your question for most of these. As for the remaining: > > > Caffine > > I'm not sure Baha'is would know what to do if we didn't have our tea. ;-} > 'Abdu'l-Baha drank both coffee and tea so we don't have trouble with > either one. > > > What does it mean tobacco is discouraged but not forbidden? > > Read for yourself what Abdu'l-Baha had to say about tobacco: > > "His supreme Highness the Báb--may my soul be His sacrifice! --in the > beginning of His Cause, openly forbade it and all the friends > abandoned its use. But, as it was a time for caution and he who > abstained from smoking was ill treated, persecuted and even killed, > therefore the friends were obliged, as a matter of prudence, to smoke. > Later, the Kitáb-i-Aqdas was revealed and as the prohibition of > tobacco was not clearly stated in it, the friends did not renounce it. > But the Blessed Perfection had always a marked aversion for its use. > At the beginning of the Cause, for certain reasons, He smoked a > little, but later He abandoned it completely, and the holy souls who > obeyed Him in all circumstances, also entirely gave up smoking. I wish > to say that, in the sight of God, the smoking of tobacco is a thing > which is blamed and condemned, very unclean, and of which the result > is by degrees injurious. Besides it is a cause of expense and of loss > of time and it is a harmful habit. So, for those who are firm in the > Covenant, it is a thing reprobated by the reason and by tradition, the > renouncement of which giveth gradual repose and tranquility, > permitteth one to have stainless hands and a clean mouth, and hair > which is not pervaded by a bad odor." > > I guess that comes pretty close to the shameful or reprehensible > category in Islamic law. > > > Why is it mentioned in one of the healing prayers @ > http://www.bahaiprayers.net/ Its the one by the Bab! > > That's a dead link, so I'm not sure what you are talking about. > >__________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:adibmasum...@gmail.com > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: > leave-463114-15803...@list.jccc.edu > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > ly...@list.jccc.edu > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > -- "Let not a man glory in this, that he loves his country; let him rather glory in this, that he loves his kind. The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens." -- Bahá'u'lláh __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:skg_z...@yahoo.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-463115-17190...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:%%emailaddr%% Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:%%email.unsub%% Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/%%list.name%% Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
