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So, according to Islamic Shari`ah law, what is the treatment that a Muslim receives when s/he leaves Islam? Best regards, Iskandar Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Gilberto Simpson <gilberto.simp...@gmail.com> Sender: <bounce-510892-2080...@list.jccc.edu>Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:43:09 To: Baha'i Studies<bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Reply-To: "Baha'i Studies" <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Subject: Re: Ablutions The Baha'i Studies Listserv Anyone who used to be a member of religion A but isn't anymore is an apostate from religion A. So Nima is an apostate from the Bahai faith. If I remember correctly you are an apostate from Christianity. Spinoza was arguably an apostate from Judaism. And if a person was Muslim at one point but is no longer Muslim now then they are an apostate from Islam. That';s just what the word means. Similarly, in terms of Islamic law, kaffir means "non-Muslim". Calling a Bahai an apostate or a kaffir either applies or doesn't. The important thing isn't the term. It is the treatment (which is the point you ignored from my response). __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:iskandar....@gmail.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-510892-20805...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:%%emailaddr%% Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:%%email.unsub%% Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/%%list.name%% Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu