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Dear Shahram: All recent acadaemic research confirms that Hasan al-askari, your 11th Shi`ah imam, was not survived by a son. All those ahadeeth that you want to present have been shown to be fabricated, inconsistent, self-contradictory, and false. Read Amir-Arjomand, etc. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: shahram rohani <shahramroh...@yahoo.com> Sender: <bounce-512636-2080...@list.jccc.edu>Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 01:52:27 To: Baha'i Studies<bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Reply-To: "Baha'i Studies" <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Subject: Re: Seal of the Prophets/ some more clarifications The Baha'i Studies Listserv dear Susan, Although I see that some persons here are full of prejudice,and do not like to hv scientific discussions - and for this reason I do not like to continue this debate more -;yet I lik to give some points that may be useful for people: -In the field of gnostic knowledge(Irfan ),there is a popular word that says,"knowledge is the greatest veil -Hijab /Obstacle - to attain the truth.It seems that ,in modern time, just a certificate, could be the greatest veil! -If you as a PHD in M.E.studies present 5 authentic islamic traditions indicating Seyed Ali Muhammad Shirazi(Bab) as the Shiite 12th Imam,then I will provide more than 50 correct traditions[ahadith],that Muhammad b.Hasan al-Askari was the 12th Imam,from both Shia and Sunni sources. thanks/Rohani --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Seal of the Prophets/ some clarifications To: "Baha'i Studies" <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 4:29 PM The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Are you claiming that Bab,and others who have affirmed his living,and > relations with >him,were simply liars? As has already been shown, the Bab considered Himself to be the 12th Imam. >I see that you have no reason in yr words.I do not like to continue this topic >with you,since >you are not aware about the historical subjects. I have a PhD in Middle East history and all the evidence I've seen indicates that there never was a 12th Imam, part from Siyyid Ali Muhammad Shirazi. __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:shahramroh...@yahoo.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-512604-8465...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:iskandar....@gmail.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-512636-20805...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:%%emailaddr%% Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:%%email.unsub%% Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/%%list.name%% Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
