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This is Ruth White and Ahmad Sohrab stuff. I'd suggest that you read the
Kitab-i Aqdas, the Ishraqat, Tablets of Baha'u'llah Revealed after the
Kitab-i-Aqdas, messages from Shoghi Efendin in Baha'i Administration and in
World Order of Baha'u'llah, and reda them carefully, please.

Best regards,
Iskandar

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Stephen Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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>  Important Quotes:
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> "The Baha'i Movement is not an organization. You can never organize the
> Baha'i Cause. The Baha'i movement is the spirit of the age. It is the
> essence of all the highest ideals of this century. The Baha'i Cause is an
> INCLUSIVE MOVEMENT: The teachings of all the religions and societies are
> found here; the Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Mohammedans, Zoroastrians,
> Theosophists, Freemasons, Spiritualists, et. al. find their highest aims in
> this Cause. Even the Socialists and philosophers find their theories fully
> developed in this Movement." (Abdu'l-Baha, quoted in "The Baha'i Temple at
> Wilmette To Be Built with Money from Every Race, Clime and Religion under
> the Sun," By Isabel Fraser, The North Shore Review, May 16, 1914, in Star of
> the West, Vol. 25, p. 67)
>
> *"There are no officers in this Cause. I do not and have not 'Appointed'
> anyone to perform any special service, but I encourage everyone to engage in
> the service of the Kingdom. The foundation of this Cause is pure spiritual
> democracy and not a theocracy."
> - Abdu'l-Bahá*
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> *"To be a Bahá'í simply means to love all the world; to love humanity and
> try to serve it; to work for universal peace and universal brotherhood."
> - Abdu'l-Baha*
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> *From:* Shamim Bina <shamimb...@gmail.com>
> *To:* Baha'i Studies <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu>
> *Sent:* Tue, August 31, 2010 10:54:55 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Unauthorized Institutions
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> If the institution of the Guardianship were still around today, the
> Guardian would be an Aghsan and would be a member of the House of Justice.
> He would be one of its members and the head member. That is what I have read
> and heard over and over from the Writings and very knowledgeable Bahai's.
> Also if you have further questions, look up video talks on youtube of Ali
> Nakhjavani talking about all this at the New Zealand conference 2006. it is
> all on youtube. if you need a link please let me know.
>
> Sincerely,
> Shamim
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Stephen Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>  It's not one of their outlined duties. In the abscence of a Guardian,
>> The UHJ has usurped powers that belong to the Guardian.
>>
>> Just ask if there were a Guardian, would the UHJ have this much power?
>>
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>> *From:* Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* Baha'i Studies <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu>
>> *Sent:* Tue, August 31, 2010 10:33:23 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Unauthorized Institutions
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>> > After the death of Shoghi Effendi, theree was a proliferation of Baha'i
>> > Institutions.
>> >
>> > But, only the following are authoried:
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>> Dear Stephen,
>>
>> And what is your scriptural basis for arguing that the Universal House
>> of Justice itself is not authorized to establish institutions?
>>
>> warmest, Susan
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