RUFUS,

Please don't apologize for being verbose.  Once, as I read one of your
comments, I was, at the same time, also able to complete the paperwork
on a business refi, have my car detailed, prepare and enjoy a sandwich
AND crochet an afgan for my aunt. (You know I love you, pal...just
ribbing the "teacher" a bit!)

PALERMO,

Shoot the well name and section #s to us - we'll pull the the
Production Runs info...THAT you can have under confidentrial tight
hole status (THCS), and those #s are "in the books."  You can
extrapolate the average cost of oil per bbl in any-given month, divide
your fraction, deduct the ND taxes and get a serious, realistic
estimate on the amount of your Mom's first check, and the subsequent
amounts while it's under THCS.

Tom
(go easy on me, Roof...)

On Oct 4, 12:15 am, Palermo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Rufus,
>
> Thanks for the great info, and sharing your links.  I have spent hours
> reading threads on this blog and have learned alot and will take your
> advice and continue reading the wisdom here.  Kinda hard to known what
> to expect never having have been through it before.
>
> Thanks for the best wishes, but I have to say I am also old enough to
> know any production would be wonderful.  Like many I am sure I just
> wish my father was alive to see or know of the Bakken.
>
> You know,while I live out of state I dearly love my time at our farm,
> and the grain. The people/neighbors we've known for 2 generations, are
> wonderful people to say the least.
>
> I will end here as I do not want to make a run at the "Verbose Turkey"
> award just yet!
>
> Thanks
>
> On Oct 3, 6:48 pm, "Rufus O'Malley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Palermo and welcome to the board.
> > Congrats to you and your family on the well, btw. I understand exactly
> > where you are at as my mother is in her mid-80's also.
> > As David mentioned above, the timeline can vary abit.  If my
> > understanding is correct after the well is producing for 5-6-7 months,
> > then the NDIC commission will have the final pooling hearing - that
> > is, a hearing to finalize exactly what area in the drilling unit
> > comprises all of the royalty owners in the unit. Then the oil
> > companies go through another round of title checking on those royalty
> > owners and doublechecking the facts and figures of mineral ownership
> > royalty percentages.  Once the oil company is satisfied (and this
> > phase can also be delayed if there are questionable holdings, or if
> > mineral owners are still be tracked down, or for any one of a dozen
> > other reasons), then the Division Orders go out the each mineral owner
> > or mineral trust trustee for signature.  No checks are cut until the
> > mineral owner agrees that the division order is acceptable, signs it
> > and returns it to the company.
> > To my knowledge, you can put the minerals in a trust at any time, and
> > then apprise the lease-holding company of the change in mineral status
> > -- it is my understanding that it does not affect the lease... but DO
> > check with your legal council, please.
> > For addtl info, i suggest cruising backward through this blog's
> > topics, (seriously)  stopping along the way to read threads that have
> > tons of info in them ...
> > another informative site iswww.americanroyaltycouncil.com (although
> > it is targeted to OK and Tx -- still good info)  and also National
> > Assoc of Royalty Owners website - that does require a
> > subscription...
> > If you post your well name or the section-township-range, some of the
> > folks here 'hear things' or 'know things' or can 'look up things' in
> > resources not on the web or by subcription to the trades ...  I don't
> > personally subscribe to any at this time ...
> > and Don't apologise for 'wordiness' --  I think I have the 'verbose
> > turkey' award on my mantle!
> > all the best,
> > Rufus
>
> > On Oct 3, 6:52 pm, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Generally figure 5-6 months between when the well first goes into
> > > production and the first royalty payment. The first royalty payment
> > > will be for the first 2-3 months of production.
>
> > > Watch for the pooling interest hearing for your well on the dmr
> > > dockets sitehttps://www.dmr.nd.gov/oilgas/docketindex.asp
>
> > > The royalty payments generally show up in your mailbox 2-3 months
> > > after the hearing date
>
> > > On Oct 3, 4:07 pm, Palermo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
> > > > First many thanks for you taking the time to discuss issues and
> > > > sharing with the helping newbie's.
>
> > > > Some background:
> > > > Our family own a farm several miles south of Palermo (homesteaded by
> > > > my grand father, purchased by my parents n the 40's) I take care of
> > > > it for my lmother who is late 80's. We own all the minerals which are
> > > > leased it. It was drilled in July, frac'd in Aug. and seems to be in
> > > > final the completing stages. The tanks are in place, rod pump
> > > > pumping, elec panel in place, flaring gas, trucks going in and out, I
> > > > know many are hauling salt water along with the oil. I see that it
> > > > comes off the confidential list the end of Dec.. I've been watch this
> > > > area on the ND state subscription web site trying to learn all I can,
> > > > and naturally excited for the region (I live out of state, but return
> > > > as often as I can 2-3 times per year minimum) except for the roads (I
> > > > feel the oil company's perhaps might help out a little with the
> > > > damage, but that is just MHO) this area deserves this, and I trust it
> > > > will help the area.
>
> > > > My question is we've heard nothing, we do know there is oil, but it
> > > > could be 100 Bbls/day to 500, just have no clue, we do not have any
> > > > idea about the IP or a clue about the process going forward. I do
> > > > read this blog daily, I assume at some point there will be a division
> > > > order required singing.
>
> > > > May I intrude upon you to explain the process going forward we might
> > > > expect? As you might expect my mother is anxious about things. Most
> > > > all her friends are also in her age group and they do not either
> > > > understand or simply get things wrong. Her only scource is the
> > > > "Promoter" ( I love the color in the last issue), and what ever I can
> > > > find on the ND web site.
>
> > > > From friends we were told after the Frac process there was a little
> > > > sand issue, they think now has been fixed, other than that we know
> > > > nothing and do nor know what to expect.
>
> > > > Sorry for the wordy thread, but I know do details matter.
>
> > > > Questions:
> > > > When and what should happen going forward, naturally her interest at
> > > > her age is the expected date for royalty payments to start as these
> > > > would really help her life.
>
> > > > If this ends up a meaningful producer at what point should the
> > > > minerals be moved into a trust or an LLC? I know there will be a very
> > > > complete title exam and was told not to do anything till at least an
> > > > IP# was announced, better the first royalty payment.
>
> > > > I know many of you good people have been through this process, if you
> > > > could share some of the timeline, and what to expect I'd appreciate
> > > > it.
>
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