Salaam Akhi,

I find myself in total agreement with you 99.9% of the time on any group 
we are in together - but on this one I cannot.  I have never been 
through a revolution.  I will simply have to trust your judgment on this 
one!  Believe me it /feels/ like time for a revolution here in the US!

I want to move to the UK really badly though.  That might help.  :-)

Wasalaam

A. Moussa wrote:
>
> /I hate the current Egyptian regime so much and wish it goes to Hell 
> the very next moment but the experience of the Egyptian revolution of 
> 1952 taught me that violence will not bring any good. The bitter long 
> way of peaceful resistance is much better than the short violent one. 
> In spite of the pretty clever Satanic ways the regime frames its 
> enemies into false legal cases that seem to block the way of any 
> change but still I prefer a legal change./
>
> / I hate revolutions./
>
> / /
>
> / /
>
> / /
>
> / /
>
> /Re: [AmeriConscience] Ripe for revolution           /
>
> / /
>
> /Alan,/
>
> / /
>
> /You and Soumaya Ghannoushi are very right that Egypt is sinking into 
> a death spiral, but the Egyptian economy has defied Western analysis 
> for a long time.  Egyptians are fond of quoting some German economist 
> who came to Egypt, studied it, and said it shouldn't function.  /
>
> / /
>
> /But it does.  /
>
> / /
>
> /Whether or not it will ever explode like Iran did in 1979 is 
> impossible to say.  I really am not close enough to know, and if I 
> did, I wouldn't tell.  I'm sure the MB is pretty mad about what has 
> happened in Gaza...
>
> --- On *Fri, 2/13/09, maki_alan */*<maki_a...@...>* wrote:
>
> /From: maki_alan <maki_a...@...>
> Subject: [AmeriConscience] Ripe for revolution
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 10:53 PM/
>
> /I found this article very interesting and thought I would share it.
>
> Link: http://www.guardian .co.uk/commentis free/2009/ feb/13/iran- 
> <http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/13/iran->
> revolution-soumaya- ghannoushi
>
> Ripe for revolution
>
> A blinkered west has created conditions in the Middle East that
> mirror those of late 1970s Iran
> Comments (114)
>
> * Soumaya Ghannoushi
> *
> o Soumaya Ghannoushi
> o The Guardian, Friday 13 February 2009
> o Article history
>
> Thirty years ago the world awoke to a great volcanic eruption in Iran
> that transformed the country's face and sent tremors across the
> globe. A mass movement of popular protest had succeeded in doing what
> few had thought possible. The Shah's heavily fortified regime was no
> more - a mere chapter in the country's long past.
>
> For all the religious euphoria that has marked the revolution, its
> root causes are in reality more sociopolitical than theological.
> After all, theology cannot create revolution if its conditions are
> not seething in society's gut and within its political forces. The
> vast wells of popular anger that erupted at the end of the 1970s were
> fed by grievances that had been building for years. At the forefront
> of these was the corruption and despotism of the Shah and his regime;
> the widening circle of sociocultural marginalisation, fuelled by
> pseudo-modernisatio n; and the regime's acquiescence to foreign
> interventions, particularly from the US.
>
> There is much about this pre-revolutionary Iranian scene that would
> appear familiar to the observer of the wider Middle East today. While
> the region's modern history has been mired in a string of crises
> associated with a fragile post-colonial state, its ills have been
> further aggravated by the erosion of legitimacy that has accompanied
> the last few decades. Its first source - national liberation - faded
> with the departure of the independence generation, and the rise to
> power of a new breed of colourless technocrats and generals.
>
> And as the promises of development and progress vanished into the
> smoke of the shanty towns, the Arab state lost its last refuge from
> its citizens. Stripped of all cover, it degenerated into a terrifying
> oppression machine. The more depleted its legitimacy, the greater it
> relied on the police, internal intelligence apparatuses, and on the
> support of foreign patrons - much like the Shah. Most Arab regimes
> would not survive without the perpetual use of violence against their
> citizens and opponents - aided and abetted by their "friends" and
> allies.
>
> Egypt may represent the clearest manifestation of this state of
> affairs. For the last decade, its 80-year-old president has been
> preoccupied with ensuring the accession of his son, Gamal, to the
> throne of the republic. In the meantime, his country, the most
> populous in the Arab world, sinks deeper into degeneracy, with
> receding regional influence, rampant corruption, and millions
> teetering on the verge of starvation.
>
> What we have before us is a deadly recipe for explosion. By the
> 1990s, with the collapse of communism and Bush Sr's attack on Iraq,
> most Arab regimes had reached their sell-by date. Thanks to
> their "business as usual" Euro-American allies, their expired lives
> were extended. But one cannot see how they can escape mortality much
> longer, amid a sea of crises and surging popular anger.
>
> Of course, this is not to say that the Iranian scenario will be
> replicated in Egypt - or other Arab countries - or that another
> Khomeini will soon emerge. History does not repeat itself. What is
> doubtless though is that many components of the Iranian dynamite are
> today raging beneath the surface of imposed "stability", especially
> as new sociopolitical forces are entering the stage on the ruins of
> the discredited official elite.
>
> Four months before the Shah was forced to flee, the CIA issued a
> report describing his regime as stable. The shah, it predicted, "is
> expected to remain actively in power over the next ten years". Things
> haven't changed much since. The same state of wilful oblivion is
> still in play. Blinded by short-term interests, western governments
> insist on seeing things in the region as they want, not as they are.
> In truth, they are the real makers of revolution in the Middle East.
>
> ? Soumaya Ghannoushi's book on the directions of political Islam will
> be published later this year/
>
> /
>
> /
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> / /
>
>
>
> 

-- 
Linda
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"If we shadows have offended, Think but this,
and all is mended, That you have but slumber'd
here While these visions did appear..."
- William Shakespeare
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