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Lara Ancientwarrior67777 wrote: > > Plus my vision showed me who was behind it and why ? > > peace > > // > > > > */Only logical people who can see pass the fog, will understand the > truth about the future. - Lara N (7-2009)/* > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* kaukab siddique <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 11:13:30 AM > *Subject:* RE: [bangla-vision] Bombshell: Bin Laden worked for US > until 9/11 > > > > In other words, Clinton, Bush and Obama can think but Muslims can't think. > Muslims don't know why they are fighting and whom they are fighting for. > > Even idiots like America's agent rulers can use a Muslim top leader > like Osama bin Ladin. > > China's Muslims are being used by America as are all other mujahidin. > > Taliban are defeating NATO because America wants to have NATO defeated. > > Osama gave up the world because he is a fool and wants to fight for > America. > > The Soviet defeat was not owing to the mujahidin but owing to America. > > And so on down the line goes the line of defeated minds who cannot see > the resurgence of Islam be it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, China, > Somalia or Nigeria. > > And by the way, jihad is because America trained Muslims. > And of course Muslims can't fly planes. 9.11 was done by Bush or Jews > or Hitler wannabees or ............ ........ [fill in the blank]. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To: bangla-vision@ yahoogroups. com > From: colemanr_99@ yahoo.com > Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:42:38 -0700 > Subject: [bangla-vision] Bombshell: Bin Laden worked for US until 9/11 > > > > Bombshell: Bin Laden worked for US until 9/11 > > In the interview, Sibel says that the US maintained 'intimate > relations' with Bin Laden, and the Taliban, "all the way until that > day of September 11." > > These 'intimate relations' included using Bin Laden for 'operations' > in Central Asia, including Xinjiang, China. These 'operations' > involved using al Qaeda and the Taliban in the same manner "as we did > during the Afghan and Soviet conflict," that is, fighting 'enemies' > via proxies. > > As Sibel has previously described > <http://lukery.blogspot.com/2008/07/court-documents-shed-light-on-cia.html>, > and as she reiterates in this latest interview, this process involved > using Turkey (with assistance from 'actors from Pakistan, and > Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia') as a proxy, which in turn used Bin > Laden and the Taliban and others as a proxy terrorist army. > > *Control of Central Asia* > > The goals of the American 'statesmen' > <http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/sibel-names-names-in-pictures.html> > > directing these activities included control of Central Asia's vast > energy supplies and new markets for military products. > > The Americans had a problem, though. They needed to keep their > fingerprints off these operations to avoid a) popular revolt in > Central Asia ( Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan) , > and b) serious repercussions from China and Russia. They found an > ingenious solution: Use their puppet-state > <http://123realchange.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-department-seeks-viable-iranian.html> > > Turkey as a proxy, and appeal to both pan-Turkic and pan-Islam > sensibilities. > > Turkey, a NATO ally, has a lot more credibility in the region than the > US and, with the history of the Ottoman Empire, could appeal to > pan-Turkic dreams of a wider sphere of influence. The majority of the > Central Asian population shares the same heritage, language and > religion as the Turks. > > In turn, the Turks used the Taliban and al Qaeda, appealing to their > dreams of a pan-Islamic caliphate (Presumably. Or maybe the Turks/US > just paid very well.) > > According > <http://lukery.blogspot.com/2008/07/court-documents-shed-light-on-cia.html>to > Sibel: > > This started more than a decade-long illegal, covert operation in > Central Asia by a small group in the US intent on furthering the oil > industry and the Military Industrial Complex, using Turkish > operatives, Saudi partners and Pakistani allies, furthering this > objective in the name of Islam. > > *Uighurs* > > Sibel was recently asked > <http://123realchange.blogspot.com/2009/07/corporate-media-how-corporate-is.html?showComment=1247001838309#c711255612951975739>to > > write about the recent situation with the Uighurs in Xinjiang, but she > declined > <http://123realchange.blogspot.com/2009/07/corporate-media-how-corporate-is.html?showComment=1247008392232#c4491697254371935795>, > > apart from saying that "our fingerprint is all over it." > > Of course, Sibel isn't the first or only person to recognize any of > this. Eric Margolis <http://www.ericmargolis.com/biography.aspx>, one > of the best reporters in the West on matters of Central Asia, stated > <http://lukery.blogspot..com/2009/07/us-trained-uighur-terrorists.html> > that the Uighurs in the training camps in Afghanistan up to 2001: > > "were being trained by Bin Laden to go and fight the communist Chinese > in Xinjiang, and this was not only with the knowledge, but with the > support of the CIA, because they thought they might use them if war > ever broke out with China." > > And also that: > > "Afghanistan was not a hotbed of terrorism, these were commando > groups, guerrilla groups, being trained for specific purposes in > Central Asia." > > In a separate interview > <http://lukery.blogspot.com/2009/07/us-trained-uighur-terrorists.html>, > Margolis said: > > "That illustrates Henry Kissinger's bon mot that the only thing more > dangerous than being America's enemy is being an ally, because these > people were paid by the CIA, they were armed by the US, these Chinese > Muslims from Xinjiang, the most-Western province. > > The CIA was going to use them in the event of a war with China, or > just to raise hell there, and they were trained and supported out of > Afghanistan, some of them with Osama Bin Laden's collaboration. The > Americans were up to their ears with this." > > *Rogues Gallery* > > Last year, Sibel came up with a brilliant idea to expose some of the > criminal activity that she is forbidden to speak about: she published > <http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/sibel-names-names-in-pictures.html>eighteen > > photos, titled "Sibel Edmonds' State Secrets Privilege Gallery," of > people involved the operations that she has been trying to expose. One > of those people is Anwar Yusuf Turani > <http://www.eastturkistangovernmentinexile.us/anwar_biography.html>, > the so-called 'President-in- exile' of East Turkistan (Xinjiang). This > so-called 'government-in- exile' was 'established > <http://www.eastturkistangovernmentinexile.us/about_us..html>' on > Capitol Hill in September, 2004, drawing a sharp rebuke > <http://www.uygur.org/wunn04/09_22.htm> from China. > > Also featured in Sibel's Rogues Gallery was 'former' spook Graham > Fuller <http://www.mepc.org/resources/fuller.asp>, who was > instrumental <http://www.turkpulse.com/turkish16.htm> in the > establishment of Turani's 'government-in- exile' of East Turkistan. > Fuller has written extensively on Xinjiang, and his "Xinjiang Project > <http://www.silkroadstudies.org/docs/publications/OLD/xinjiang_final.pdf>" > for Rand Corp is apparently > <http://www.turkpulse.com/turkish16.htm>the blueprint for Turani's > government-in- exile. Sibel has openly stated > <http://123realchange.blogspot.com/2009/07/announcing-sibel-edmonds-podcast-show.html?showComment=1247672399332#c52405640544575295>her > > contempt for Mr. Fuller. > > *Susurluk* > > The Turkish establishment has a long history of mingling matters of > state with terrorism, drug trafficking and other criminal activity, > best exemplified by the 1996 Susurluk incident > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susurluk_scandal> which exposed the > so-called Deep State. > > Sibel states that > <http://123realchange.blogspot.com/2009/07/ataa-deep-state-psychosis.html?showComment=1247943771301#c7135452057156740360> > > "a few main Susurluk actors also ended up in Chicago where they > centered 'certain' aspects of their operations (Especially East > Turkistan-Uighurs) ." > > One of the main Deep State actors, Mehmet Eymur > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Eym%C3%83%C2%BCr>, former Chief > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susurluk_scandal>of Counter-Terrorism > for Turkey's intelligence agency, the MIT, features in Sibel's Rogues > Gallery > <http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot..com/2008/01/sibel-names-names-in-pictures.html>. > > Eymur was given exile in the US. Another member of Sibel's gallery > <http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/sibel-names-names-in-pictures.html>, > > Marc Grossman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Grossman> was > Ambassador to Turkey at the time that the Susurluk incident exposed > the Deep State. He was recalled shortly after, prior to the end of his > assignment, as was Grossman's underling, Major Douglas Dickerson, who > later tried to recruit Sibel > <http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9774.htm> into the > spying ring. > > The modus operandi of the Susurluk gang is the same as the activities > that Sibel describes as taking place in Central Asia, the only > difference is that this activity was exposed in Turkey a decade ago, > whereas the organs of the state in the US, including the corporate > media, have successfully suppressed this story. > > *Chechnya, Albania & Kosovo* > > Central Asia is not the only place where American foreign policy > makers have shared interests with Bin Laden. Consider the war in > Chechnya. As I documented here > <http://lukery.blogspot.com/2008/07/sibel-edmonds-case-central-asia.html>, > Richard Perle and Stephen Solarz (both in Sibel's gallery > <http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/sibel-names-names-in-pictures.html>) > > joined other leading neocon luminaries such as Elliott Abrams, Kenneth > Adelman, Frank Gaffney, Michael Ledeen, James Woolsey, and Morton > Abramowitz in a group called the American Committee for Peace in > Chechnya <http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1429.html> (ACPC). > For his part, Bin Laden donated > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39482-2003Apr25?language=printer>$25 > > million to the cause, as well as numerous fighters, and technical > expertise, establishing training camps. > > US interests also converged > <http://lukery.blogspot.com/2008/07/sibel-edmonds-case-central-asia.html>with > those of al-Qaeda in Kosovo and Albania. > > Of course, it is not uncommon for circumstances to arise where 'the > enemy of my enemy is my friend.' On the other hand, in a transparent > democracy, we expect a full accounting of the circumstances leading up > to a tragic event like 9/11. The 9/11 Commission was supposed to > provide exactly that. > > *State Secrets* > > Sibel has famously been dubbed the most gagged woman in America, > having the State Secrets Privilege imposed on her twice. Her 3.5 hour > testimony <http://www.antiwar.com/edmonds/?articleid=3230> to the 9/11 > Commission has been entirely suppressed, reduced to a single footnote > which refers readers to her classified testimony. > > In the interview, she says that the information that was classified in > her case specifically identifies that the US was using Bin Laden and > the Taliban in Central Asia, including Xinjiang. In the interview, > Sibel reiterates that when invoking the gag orders, the US government > claims that it is protecting " 'sensitive diplomatic relations,' > protecting Turkey, protecting Israel, protecting Pakistan, protecting > Saudi Arabia..." This is no doubt partially true, but it is also true > that they are protecting themselves too, and it is a crime in the US > to use classification and secrecy to cover up crimes. > > As Sibel says in the interview > <http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2009/07/sibel-edmonds-on-mike-malloy.html>: > > I have information about things that our government has lied to us > about... those things can be proven as lies, very easily, based on the > information they classified in my case, because we did carry very > intimate relationship with these people, and it involves Central Asia, > all the way up to September 11. > > *Summary* > > The bombshell here is obviously that certain people in the US were > using Bin Laden up to September 11, 2001. It is important to > understand why: the US outsourced terror operations to al Qaeda and > the Taliban for many years, promoting the Islamization of Central Asia > in an attempt to personally profit off military sales as well as oil > and gas concessions. > > The silence by the US government on these matters is deafening. So, > too, is the blowback. > > Article printed from Infowars: *http://www.infowars .com* > > URL to article: *http://www.infowars .com/bombshell- bin-laden- > worked-for- us-until- 911/ > <http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-bin-laden-worked-for-us-until-911/>* > > . > > > > > > > >
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