Hi,
I have gone through "Code Complete by Steve McConnell" under same category.This also good one. read it.

Reagrds,
Sharath Sama


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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:28:03 +0530
From: Zaki Manian <z...@manian.org>
To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers@python.org>
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
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Googling or search in general is a skill. There is a lot of contextual
knowledge that we use when composing a search query. One of the most
important skills when entering a new discipline is learning the appropriate
jargon and using it drive your queries.

Search isn't generally a skill taught in schools. This is sad because it is probably ur-skill of the 21st century. But the only way to learn to search
is to do a lot of it. I do find it more common in the East to find
individuals in technical areas who haven't spent time running the thousands
of queries it takes to build up the skill


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On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit <ard...@gmail.com>wrote:

May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. To
quote from your own post:

"Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you  people have"

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy <
srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com> wrote:

 Hi list,
        This is my first post to the list though  I have been following
this list since 7 or 8 months.
I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very
less exposure and exp as you  people have and
please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame.

         I know that this is not related to python, but i can't resist
discussing this.

Why do indian programmers ask for code in  Usenet (particularly Google
groups) ?
,saying that it's very urgent and on top of that they can't even able to
put their problem across correctly.In some cases
they ask you to send it to their mail ID's.

  Having  tried the problem and asking for help is OK.but this is
something like disgusting.

        I have been following Reddit  and News groups and forums and no
matter where ever i go these type of
people are there(99% of them are indians).They don't even have the
patience to do googling..is copying seeped into our blood??

    I have worked at infosys , i have had a chance to work with
westerns,they never ever
copy their home work(In training ,we used to do assignments and submit at
the EOD).They do submit what they did , if they can't
do it,they ask permission to submit later.But we (Indians) used to copy.Yeah,i
did copy and learnt lessons. :)


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Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy.
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:43:30 +0530
From: Kenneth Gonsalves <law...@au-kbc.org>
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On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote:
I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go
to the Ruby forums

no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:50:04 +0530
From: Zaki Manian <z...@manian.org>
To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers@python.org>
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
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I frequently speak of the challenge culture poses in doing product
development in India.

But in some sense, culture is a great problem to have. Culture can change
and fairly fast. There are also fantastic opportunities for entrepeneurs so
build microcosms of effective problem solving culture in India.

At the sametime , it is !...@ing hard....


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On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Baishampayan Ghose <b.gh...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Why do indian programmers ask for code in  Usenet (particularly Google
> groups) ?

Most Indian programmers were never supposed to be programmers. They
simply lack the cognitive skills required to be in the business. Yet
they are the ones who work for large/medium/small software service
companies. So when they face a problem, they have absolutely no clue
as to where to look for solutions. They also have no idea about the
various programming communities and their modus operandi. They just
join some random group and ask for solutions (it's akin to asking for
some software in some shareware group).

The problem is also inside the organisations; people who ask their
seniors questions are deemed to be fools, etc.

I think there is no solution to this specific problem. It's more of a
culture issue. Unless and until parents let their children do whatever
they want and the society treats people from all professions equally,
people will keep flocking into the most fashionable profession of that
decade. Computer programming is on its way out... management is much
more fashionable now; the only difference is that a programmer's work
revolves around the Internet and the Internet never forgets :)

Regards,
BG

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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:50:42 +0530
From: "Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy"
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Subject: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
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Just completed reading the book, "The Coders At Work",It's just an
excellent book and
It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers.
Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind?

Regards,
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