Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-07-16.
2011-07-16 00:11:45+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-16 01:54:01+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-16 10:22:57+0000 <dachary> hop 2011-07-16 10:38:07+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-16 11:29:38+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-16 11:55:47+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-16 12:06:21+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-16 12:24:52+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-16 13:03:26+0000 <arbrandes> dachary sama, you around? 2011-07-16 14:15:04+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-16 15:05:33+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-16 15:58:16+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-16 17:54:33+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: yes 2011-07-16 17:54:56+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, hi man, how's the move going? 2011-07-16 17:58:39+0000 <dachary> good, thanks :-) 2011-07-16 17:59:33+0000 <arbrandes> I have an architecture question regarding #167, which I'm tackling. To be able to notify the analytics tracker of "page" changes in the cardstories client, I'm currently trying a publish/subscribe approach using jquery's bind()/trigger(), so that the analytics code can be on a separate plugin. 2011-07-16 17:59:42+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, does that sound good to you? ^ 2011-07-16 17:59:55+0000 * dachary thinking 2011-07-16 18:00:35+0000 <arbrandes> The alternative would be to simply do it all inside jquery.cardstories, but that felt a little ... dirty, to me. :) 2011-07-16 18:05:19+0000 <dachary> it takes me a little time because I need to recall discussion / memories a few years back 2011-07-16 18:05:50+0000 <arbrandes> no rush, I'm just checking if I'm barking up the wrong tree. :) 2011-07-16 18:06:19+0000 <dachary> I think not 2011-07-16 18:10:00+0000 <dachary> here is a thought. In the cardstories client, there is an architectural fact that is likely to stay and that is very visible in the code organisation. There are states and each state is implemented by a function. There are functions that merely route to the appropriate function who is in charge of displaying the state. 2011-07-16 18:10:43+0000 <arbrandes> Yup, so I've seen 2011-07-16 18:10:57+0000 <dachary> This state oriented architecture means that you can expect to find a function that will implement the state and figure out all there is to know about the state by reading the function. Which is convenient to separate tasks. 2011-07-16 18:11:48+0000 <dachary> It also means that if we agree to call a function whenever a state is about to be displayed, that convention is likely to catch all possible states and also likely to resist future changes. 2011-07-16 18:12:12+0000 <arbrandes> What I've started doing is setting up calling a new "notify_active()" after each "set_active()" (which always happens in these state functions). This notify_active() will then simply $(root).trigger() appropriately, and elsewhere in the codebase a plugin can catch that. 2011-07-16 18:12:35+0000 <dachary> In other words, it may be a solution to add a "state_change" function at the beginning of each state function and have it call the analytics code. 2011-07-16 18:12:57+0000 <dachary> It seems we're on the same line. 2011-07-16 18:14:26+0000 <arbrandes> Yup :) Would you rather have a direct call to the analytics code (say, "owa_notify"), or are you ok with the trigger thing? this makes it a bit more abstract, in that cardstories does not need to know what brand of analytics is being used. 2011-07-16 18:14:39+0000 <arbrandes> this = trigger/bind 2011-07-16 18:19:05+0000 <dachary> I think a little abstraction would be better. Although it is only required for owa, it is a light weight abstraction and I'm comfortable with the idea. 2011-07-16 18:19:57+0000 <dachary> I usually don't like abstractions that are used only by one piece of code. But this one is really light and does not strike me as over-designing the architecture ;-) 2011-07-16 18:20:37+0000 <arbrandes> ok, thanks dachary. Sorry to interrupt on your saturday. :) 2011-07-16 18:20:54+0000 <dachary> always a pleasure discussing with you. 2011-07-16 18:21:09+0000 <arbrandes> Likewise! :) 2011-07-16 18:21:15+0000 <dachary> and my schedule is bizarre this week anyway ;-) 2011-07-16 18:22:06+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, yeah, I saw your post. Moving always messes with the program, no matter how careful you are. :) 2011-07-16 18:23:18+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-07-16 18:36:47+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now offline _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/
