Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-07-21.
2011-07-21 01:39:52+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-21 02:23:02+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now offline 2011-07-21 02:57:55+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online 2011-07-21 03:58:52+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-21 07:12:48+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online 2011-07-21 08:03:20+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-21 08:35:06+0000 <antoviaque> hi! 2011-07-21 08:54:22+0000 <arbrandes> hey dewd 2011-07-21 08:54:31+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-21 08:55:01+0000 <antoviaque> how are you today? 2011-07-21 08:55:11+0000 <antoviaque> Me I'm in love with backup server this morning :) 2011-07-21 08:56:12+0000 <arbrandes> Today I'm good, thanks :) Be careful with the backup itch, though, it might become a rash. ;) 2011-07-21 08:57:36+0000 <arbrandes> I went paranoid once, no number of backups was enough. Not very healthy, I can tell you, hahaha... 2011-07-21 08:58:06+0000 <arbrandes> (just kidding, you should always have at least ONE backup ;) 2011-07-21 08:58:23+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahaha - and I thought I was crazy :p 2011-07-21 08:59:11+0000 <antoviaque> what I like is more the fact that I will (hopefully) not have to worry about it much anymore :) 2011-07-21 08:59:37+0000 <antoviaque> before I was doing backups by hand, with never enough disk space, and forgetting to do it all the time, etc. 2011-07-21 09:00:05+0000 <antoviaque> backuppc+4TB RAID5 should give me some peace :D 2011-07-21 09:00:53+0000 * arbrandes looking at backuppc 2011-07-21 09:00:55+0000 <arbrandes> nice 2011-07-21 09:01:24+0000 <arbrandes> I just use a cron'd rsync for my server 2011-07-21 09:01:32+0000 <arbrandes> this looks much better, hehehe 2011-07-21 09:01:36+0000 <antoviaque> yep, that works too :) 2011-07-21 09:02:02+0000 <antoviaque> backuppc does the coffee too - the only issue is to give him plenty of space 2011-07-21 09:02:58+0000 <antoviaque> that was the issue when I used it in the past - if it's too constrained it ends up being more troubles than peace of mind, since it fills everytime someome copies a big file on a server somewhere 2011-07-21 09:04:08+0000 <arbrandes> I hear you; I have the same problem with my rsync 2011-07-21 10:03:40+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-21 10:03:53+0000 <antoviaque> hi berliner! 2011-07-21 11:01:22+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 11:11:38+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 11:28:47+0000 antoviaque1 (antoviaque1) is now online 2011-07-21 11:39:02+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 11:49:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hey dachary how's your new place? :D 2011-07-21 12:01:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> are we starting our meeting? :) 2011-07-21 12:01:32+0000 <arbrandes> hey tartarugafeliz 2011-07-21 12:01:33+0000 <arbrandes> yup 2011-07-21 12:01:41+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 12:01:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello arbrandes! 2011-07-21 12:01:55+0000 <arbrandes> let's try to do this one quick :) 2011-07-21 12:01:56+0000 <antoviaque> yup : ) 2011-07-21 12:02:17+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, mtyaka, we're starting 2011-07-21 12:02:21+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: dachary: mtyaka: tartarugafeliz: and al -- meeting :p 2011-07-21 12:02:26+0000 <antoviaque> hey! 2011-07-21 12:02:26+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah 2011-07-21 12:02:29+0000 <antoviaque> double :D 2011-07-21 12:02:34+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe :) 2011-07-21 12:02:41+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, how about if you start today? 2011-07-21 12:02:42+0000 <mtyaka> hello all 2011-07-21 12:02:48+0000 <antoviaque> hi mtyaka! 2011-07-21 12:02:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok I can start 2011-07-21 12:02:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello mtyaka 2011-07-21 12:02:54+0000 <arbrandes> hey mtyaka 2011-07-21 12:03:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> well, I'm uploading the animation 2a to 2b 2011-07-21 12:03:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm going to slice everything next 2011-07-21 12:03:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yesterday I finished the animation 2 to 2a and the sliced images too 2011-07-21 12:03:52+0000 <arbrandes> Yup, I saw it, it was great :) 2011-07-21 12:03:58+0000 <arbrandes> is anything blocking you? 2011-07-21 12:03:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm following the tasks on my tasks list, is really usefull 2011-07-21 12:04:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> nope, everything is fine! 2011-07-21 12:04:10+0000 <tartarugafeliz> thank you! 2011-07-21 12:04:19+0000 <arbrandes> awesome, thank *you*! :) 2011-07-21 12:04:26+0000 <arbrandes> lemme go next 2011-07-21 12:05:05+0000 <arbrandes> After the meetings(s) yesterday, I spent the rest of the day wrapping my head around the HTML and CSS in cardstories 2011-07-21 12:05:39+0000 <arbrandes> I continued working on animation till this morning 2011-07-21 12:05:45+0000 <arbrandes> (after sleeping, of course hehhee) 2011-07-21 12:05:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> heheheh 2011-07-21 12:05:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> can we see it? 2011-07-21 12:06:15+0000 <arbrandes> I have the card itself animating correctly, but I'm still working on the sentence box 2011-07-21 12:06:24+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, haven't uploaded it yet, sorry :) 2011-07-21 12:06:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok its just curiosity 2011-07-21 12:06:42+0000 <arbrandes> It'll be ready soon (I hope, hehehe) 2011-07-21 12:06:58+0000 <antoviaque> True, would be good if we had a server to show advancement : ) 2011-07-21 12:07:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, and I could also verify the design integration by steps too, instead of leaving everything to the end 2011-07-21 12:07:43+0000 <tartarugafeliz> this way if we need to make changes its easier 2011-07-21 12:07:44+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-21 12:07:47+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, it's a good idea. I can put my stuff up on my server, as I did once before 2011-07-21 12:08:12+0000 <antoviaque> yup, and I'll put on mine when I work on code too, to show during those meetings 2011-07-21 12:08:14+0000 <antoviaque> thanks : ) 2011-07-21 12:09:13+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, moving on, in addition to finishing th is animation, today I intend to create a few more tasks for the next stories, otherwise we'll start getting late. 2011-07-21 12:09:35+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, your turn :) 2011-07-21 12:09:55+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: question about this - isn't it taking too much of your time? especially given that you volunteer that part, I'm always a bit worried 2011-07-21 12:10:13+0000 <antoviaque> On my side: I worked on the backup solution, which is now up and running -- it's still finishing the last backups, but now tickets.farsides.com is safe at least :p 2011-07-21 12:10:18+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, yes, it's taking quite a bit of time; we can discuss it further in my 121, is it tomorrow already? 2011-07-21 12:10:28+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-21 12:10:41+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good 2011-07-21 12:10:56+0000 <antoviaque> Today I'm going to work on solving the farsides.com skin issue (the contractor is not doing her work, I need to find a solution), and if time allows I'll also move the farsides repository to our server (originally planned to do this yesterday, but the backup took precedence :p ) 2011-07-21 12:11:32+0000 <antoviaque> I've also emailed a couple of things - potential investor, charles (game designer, who is supposed to work again a bit), etc. 2011-07-21 12:11:51+0000 <antoviaque> no blocker so far on my side 2011-07-21 12:12:03+0000 <arbrandes> about the skin issue, are you looking for contractors or are you going to do it yourself? 2011-07-21 12:12:12+0000 <antoviaque> I'm wondering about that 2011-07-21 12:12:15+0000 <arbrandes> mostly just curious 2011-07-21 12:12:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I would love if Xavier could do it 2011-07-21 12:12:38+0000 <antoviaque> The issue is to find someone who can do both the CSS and the buddypress integration 2011-07-21 12:12:54+0000 <tartarugafeliz> because then we know its going to be ready! :D 2011-07-21 12:13:00+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahaha 2011-07-21 12:13:04+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehhe 2011-07-21 12:13:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahah 2011-07-21 12:13:14+0000 <antoviaque> I think I may have a good solution for the CSS integration, maybe I'll do the buddypress integration 2011-07-21 12:13:21+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: unless you have a solution in mind? 2011-07-21 12:13:49+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, not really, I was going to offer asking around here for potential contractors 2011-07-21 12:14:05+0000 <antoviaque> for css - those guys are the one I have in mind: http://cssmenow.com/ 2011-07-21 12:14:13+0000 * arbrandes looking 2011-07-21 12:14:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> they did my new site they're really good 2011-07-21 12:14:36+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: if there is someone you're sure will do a good and fast job, I'd be glad : ) 2011-07-21 12:14:57+0000 <antoviaque> because the buddypress integration would still take some time 2011-07-21 12:14:59+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, so basically, the job is converting images into good CSS + good buddypress 2011-07-21 12:15:07+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-21 12:15:21+0000 <antoviaque> which is basically a wordpress theme, but there are some tweeks 2011-07-21 12:15:34+0000 <antoviaque> I think that's those tweeks that got it stuck with fernanda 2011-07-21 12:15:47+0000 <antoviaque> and actually the css itself could have been better 2011-07-21 12:16:14+0000 <antoviaque> s/tweeks/tweaks/ :p 2011-07-21 12:16:32+0000 <arbrandes> I have somebody in mind, actually, and he's just "come into some free time", if you get my drift. :) I haven't actually worked with him before, but I know he knows CSS, HTML, and could learn buddypress. 2011-07-21 12:16:49+0000 <antoviaque> that would be great : ) 2011-07-21 12:17:05+0000 <antoviaque> learning is not an issue, to the contrary - the person just need to be good : ) 2011-07-21 12:17:44+0000 <arbrandes> Maybe he could take on a small part of it to show off what he can do. He's not a coder, he's actually the "designer who knows CSS and HTML" that tartarugafeliz was considering becoming. :) 2011-07-21 12:17:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahhh its even better 2011-07-21 12:18:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> because then he has notions of design and he probably knows the importance of the small details 2011-07-21 12:18:32+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good - maybe tell him to drop by in the chat when he has some time? we can discuss it with him 2011-07-21 12:18:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ASAP :D 2011-07-21 12:18:44+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, ok, will do 2011-07-21 12:18:47+0000 <antoviaque> yep ;p 2011-07-21 12:18:48+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, hahaha, yup ;) 2011-07-21 12:18:53+0000 <antoviaque> thanks arbrandes : ) 2011-07-21 12:18:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes thank you! 2011-07-21 12:19:25+0000 <antoviaque> ok, so I'm going to focus on moving the repo then, and will find more stuff to do :) 2011-07-21 12:19:27+0000 <arbrandes> I hope it works out; I haven't actually seen his CSS, let's hope it's good enough for the website. 2011-07-21 12:20:09+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, moving on... mtyaka, I know you're still waiting for tasks, I'm going to try and whip something up 2011-07-21 12:20:15+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 12:20:17+0000 <antoviaque> a test task, for example just on the home implemented as a buddypress skin would allow to see it quickly 2011-07-21 12:20:20+0000 <mtyaka> yup 2011-07-21 12:20:25+0000 <mtyaka> ok, great 2011-07-21 12:21:08+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, I'm sorry I didn't come up with anything yesterday, I ended up spending too long on the morning meeting, and I was worried about the animation, too. 2011-07-21 12:21:14+0000 <arbrandes> I hope to correct that today. 2011-07-21 12:23:07+0000 <mtyaka> no worries 2011-07-21 13:21:51+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 13:42:41+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 13:48:06+0000 * dachary unpacking 70 boxes in his new berlin flat :-D 2011-07-21 13:48:12+0000 <antoviaque> yeyyyy! 2011-07-21 13:48:15+0000 <dachary> \o/ 2011-07-21 13:48:36+0000 <antoviaque> Du bist ein berliner! 2011-07-21 13:48:58+0000 <antoviaque> (damned, 9 years of german and I can't even tell if I said it right :p ) 2011-07-21 13:50:17+0000 cafezal (cafezal) is now online 2011-07-21 13:50:30+0000 <antoviaque> hi cafezal : ) 2011-07-21 13:50:30+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-21 13:53:16+0000 <cafezal> hi, i discovered that you need someone to convert images into HTML 2011-07-21 13:53:40+0000 <antoviaque> ah, you are the person arbrandes talked about! 2011-07-21 13:53:43+0000 <antoviaque> welcome here : ) 2011-07-21 13:54:15+0000 <cafezal> if he spoke no ill i`m the one. :) 2011-07-21 13:54:25+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2011-07-21 13:54:31+0000 <arbrandes> yeah, he's the one ;) 2011-07-21 13:54:32+0000 <antoviaque> heheh, he only said good things :p 2011-07-21 13:54:37+0000 <arbrandes> welcome, cafezal :) 2011-07-21 13:54:49+0000 <antoviaque> and yes, we are looking to build a skin for our website, farsides.com, based on PSDs from tartarugafeliz 2011-07-21 13:55:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello cafezal! :) 2011-07-21 13:55:25+0000 <cafezal> hi everybody 2011-07-21 13:55:28+0000 <cafezal> !1 2011-07-21 13:55:48+0000 <antoviaque> we use buddypress to run the website (it's basically a wordpress with additional plugins) 2011-07-21 13:56:02+0000 <antoviaque> would you know how to do that? 2011-07-21 13:56:38+0000 <antoviaque> the website is farsides.com 2011-07-21 13:56:48+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: do you have your mockups? 2011-07-21 13:56:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm uploading the pngs! 2011-07-21 13:57:04+0000 <antoviaque> thx :D 2011-07-21 13:57:10+0000 <cafezal> well I do code html and css, mostly using dreamweaver 2011-07-21 13:57:33+0000 <cafezal> but I`ve used wordpress 2011-07-21 13:57:47+0000 <cafezal> my blog is wordpress 2011-07-21 13:57:54+0000 <cafezal> carlosfelipe.net 2011-07-21 13:58:07+0000 * antoviaque is having a look :) 2011-07-21 13:59:52+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for the link! 2011-07-21 14:00:12+0000 <antoviaque> ok, before deciding if we do a test or not, I see two possible issues 2011-07-21 14:00:50+0000 <antoviaque> 1) Do you have some understanding of PHP (or code languages in general) ? 2011-07-21 14:01:40+0000 <antoviaque> 2) Would you be able to build a CSS & HTML that conforms with the W3C standards? 2011-07-21 14:02:11+0000 <antoviaque> Of course, having to learn is perfectly ok 2011-07-21 14:02:39+0000 <antoviaque> But just to check that it wouldn't be too daunting, since we would need to move forward quickly on this theme 2011-07-21 14:04:13+0000 <cafezal> 1) I`m no programer, I did had to alter some codes in PHP and script already, but I`ve never code nothing from scratch in those languages. 2011-07-21 14:04:36+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 14:05:05+0000 <cafezal> 2) css and html conforming to w3c is how I`ve learned it from the begining. 2011-07-21 14:05:44+0000 <antoviaque> ok - no heavy coding included, if you're able to change a few existing snippets it should be fine for this job : ) 2011-07-21 14:05:53+0000 <antoviaque> and perfect for 2) :D 2011-07-21 14:05:58+0000 <antoviaque> ok then 2011-07-21 14:06:23+0000 <antoviaque> when tartarugafeliz gets the mockups you'll be able to have a look 2011-07-21 14:06:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you can see the pngs here https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/trees/master/farsides/site 2011-07-21 14:07:17+0000 <cafezal> ok 2011-07-21 14:07:36+0000 <antoviaque> if the project interests you, what I was thinking was to start with maybe just the skinning of the home page, delivered as a buddypress skin, to check that everything is ok 2011-07-21 14:08:09+0000 <cafezal> ok 2011-07-21 14:08:33+0000 <antoviaque> you'd be able to get to see a bit how we work (and how picky tartarugafeliz can be on the quality of the integration hehe :p ) 2011-07-21 14:08:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahahah 2011-07-21 14:08:59+0000 <cafezal> :) 2011-07-21 14:09:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm pretty picky its true, but at the end the result needs to be perfect! :) 2011-07-21 14:09:38+0000 <antoviaque> agreed :) 2011-07-21 14:10:25+0000 <antoviaque> cafezal: I let you have a look, and tartarugafeliz explain how the website works - then we can discuss the practicalities if you're still up for it :) 2011-07-21 14:10:38+0000 <cafezal> well I`m just kind of lost in what the project is exactly 2011-07-21 14:10:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its our website 2011-07-21 14:11:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its a wordpress with plugins 2011-07-21 14:11:25+0000 <cafezal> is the home page this one: 2-02.png? 2011-07-21 14:11:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/farsides/site/2.png 2011-07-21 14:12:14+0000 <cafezal> ok 2011-07-21 14:12:31+0000 <tartarugafeliz> home page is 2 files, because the 2 projects we're working in will be presented randomically when you enter the site. so the first one is this, 2.png and the other one is https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/farsides/site/2-02.png 2011-07-21 14:13:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> then as you can see, there's a login on top, there are 3 areas contribute, news and follow us 2011-07-21 14:13:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and the footer and the tools on the bottom 2011-07-21 14:14:32+0000 <cafezal> ok 2011-07-21 14:14:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and there's also a blog integrated, when you click in blog (of course) 2011-07-21 14:14:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahhahaha 2011-07-21 14:14:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and the forum 2011-07-21 14:15:03+0000 <cafezal> and the wiki 2011-07-21 14:15:08+0000 <cafezal> :) 2011-07-21 14:15:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you got it. hahahaha 2011-07-21 14:15:55+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but the wiki doesn't need to be integrated 2011-07-21 14:16:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> the wiki is just a link to our wiki ahhaha 2011-07-21 14:16:07+0000 <antoviaque> it's just the buddypress basically 2011-07-21 14:16:22+0000 <cafezal> so, you just want me to put it all in the buddypress. 2011-07-21 14:16:32+0000 <antoviaque> which includes forum/blog/site features 2011-07-21 14:16:37+0000 <antoviaque> it already is in there : ) 2011-07-21 14:17:50+0000 <antoviaque> it's basically http://farsides.com/ (but not wiki.farsides.com for example) 2011-07-21 14:18:08+0000 <antoviaque> blog => http://farsides.com/ 2011-07-21 14:18:22+0000 <antoviaque> forum => http://farsides.com/groups/ 2011-07-21 14:18:36+0000 <antoviaque> those two are both included in buddypress 2011-07-21 14:18:57+0000 <antoviaque> http://buddypress.org/ 2011-07-21 14:19:57+0000 <cafezal> so i`ll just have to change the layout using the content that is already there? 2011-07-21 14:20:13+0000 <antoviaque> if you try to install the buddypress plugin to a wordpress, you'll see some specific themes that take advantage of the extended features 2011-07-21 14:20:17+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-21 14:20:38+0000 <antoviaque> plus a few additional static pages to present the company 2011-07-21 14:22:11+0000 <antoviaque> see http://buddypress.org/extend/themes/ for some examples 2011-07-21 14:24:01+0000 <antoviaque> see also http://codex.buddypress.org/home/ => Theme Development 2011-07-21 14:25:16+0000 <antoviaque> especially, if you already created themes for wordpress: http://codex.buddypress.org/theme-development/wordpress-to-buddypress-theme/ 2011-07-21 14:25:46+0000 <cafezal> it`s similar to wordpress 2011-07-21 14:25:50+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-07-21 14:27:29+0000 <cafezal> so you don`t have a similar theme? I get to pick one from which to start? 2011-07-21 14:27:55+0000 <antoviaque> you can probably use the one we currently use as a base 2011-07-21 14:27:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> get the 2.png it would be good to start with the first page 2011-07-21 14:28:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahhh sorry hahaha 2011-07-21 14:29:44+0000 <antoviaque> it's "Jukt Micronics (BuddyPress BuddyPack) 1.2" 2011-07-21 14:30:37+0000 <antoviaque> http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/jukt-micronics-buddypress-buddypack 2011-07-21 14:31:21+0000 <cafezal> hummm 2011-07-21 14:31:28+0000 <antoviaque> it's good actually to do like this, at least the current features all keep working 2011-07-21 14:31:52+0000 <antoviaque> svn => http://themes.svn.wordpress.org/jukt-micronics-buddypress-buddypack/ 2011-07-21 14:32:23+0000 <cafezal> ok 2011-07-21 14:32:53+0000 <cafezal> much to do 2011-07-21 14:32:57+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-21 14:33:39+0000 <antoviaque> but as a test task, we could just start with the home page 2011-07-21 14:33:54+0000 <cafezal> yep 2011-07-21 14:34:07+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: can you explain a bit more, about the slider for the games for example 2011-07-21 14:34:44+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its a carrossel that changes the images (2 images), and its randomic for when you enter the site 2011-07-21 14:34:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and there's also 2 buttons on the top 2011-07-21 14:35:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> when you click on card stories, you see card stories and so on 2011-07-21 14:36:56+0000 <antoviaque> thx : ) 2011-07-21 14:37:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> : ) 2011-07-21 14:38:46+0000 <cafezal> thx 2011-07-21 14:39:13+0000 <cafezal> that`s the image with the card game. right? 2011-07-21 14:39:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes! 2011-07-21 14:39:31+0000 <cafezal> sorry card stories 2011-07-21 14:39:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> exactly :) 2011-07-21 14:41:05+0000 <cafezal> so, nothing that I coudn`t do, but it will take some time. 2011-07-21 14:41:43+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 14:42:17+0000 <antoviaque> how long do you think would take you? 2011-07-21 14:42:25+0000 <antoviaque> the whole thing, and just the home page 2011-07-21 14:43:56+0000 <cafezal> At least a week for the first page, if I had time to dedicate full time which I don`t. 2011-07-21 14:44:43+0000 <antoviaque> uh, that much? 5 days for the home? 2011-07-21 14:45:21+0000 <cafezal> I`ve got to understand the code and built it carefully. But the rest will flow faster after. 2011-07-21 14:47:19+0000 <cafezal> Any way, I thought it would be a quiker job, and I`m kind of busy with other stuff right now. 2011-07-21 14:47:56+0000 <antoviaque> I understand the need to be careful and clean 2011-07-21 14:48:10+0000 <antoviaque> oh, ok - so you won't be able to take this on? 2011-07-21 14:49:25+0000 <cafezal> that is it. I rather don`t take it than try and let you down. 2011-07-21 14:49:55+0000 <antoviaque> I understand - and I appreciate, it's not a good situation to be in for anyone 2011-07-21 14:50:13+0000 <antoviaque> Well, thanks for coming and taking the time to discuss with us : ) 2011-07-21 14:51:56+0000 <cafezal> I`ll thank you. :) 2011-07-21 14:53:50+0000 <antoviaque> Good luck with your projects! And feel free to stay/visit anytime you want 2011-07-21 14:53:59+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-21 14:58:54+0000 <cafezal> Nice to know you and be sure I`ll stay tunned (via adolfo at least) it`s a nice project got here. 2011-07-21 14:59:17+0000 <antoviaque> thanks : ) 2011-07-21 14:59:40+0000 <antoviaque> we could even do a game or two of Card Stories sometime :p 2011-07-21 15:00:22+0000 <cafezal> that would be nice. :) 2011-07-21 15:02:12+0000 <cafezal> my fiancé is a english teacher here and I`ve told her about this game. It could be a good class game also. 2011-07-21 15:03:18+0000 <antoviaque> ah, definitely : ) 2011-07-21 15:03:55+0000 <antoviaque> and if the reactions of kids we've got last week are any indication, the activity would have some success : ) 2011-07-21 15:04:21+0000 <antoviaque> if she does it, let us know, would be great to have the feedback 2011-07-21 15:04:29+0000 <antoviaque> (or if there is any help needed to set it up) 2011-07-21 15:05:00+0000 <cafezal> nice to know. I`ll tell you if she does. 2011-07-21 15:05:44+0000 <cafezal> Now i`ll go have a lunch. See you. :) 2011-07-21 15:06:08+0000 cafezal (cafezal) is now offline 2011-07-21 15:16:10+0000 <arbrandes> Sorry it didn't work out, antoviaque. I saved the discussion, though, so that I can screen candidates better next time. :) 2011-07-21 15:18:34+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: no worries at all : ) 2011-07-21 15:18:54+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for finding someone, it was definitely worth a shot 2011-07-21 15:19:58+0000 <arbrandes> I have one last card up my sleeve, but this time around I'm going to email him the chat log first, to see if he's interested. We'll see. 2011-07-21 15:20:02+0000 <antoviaque> it's definitely a tricky profile to find - I always had recruitment issues for this kind of hybrid tasks 2011-07-21 15:20:09+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2011-07-21 15:20:45+0000 <antoviaque> I'm sending an email to cssmenow.com too at the same time, to see if they could take on the full thing or if I would have to work on the buddypress integration 2011-07-21 15:20:47+0000 <arbrandes> Yup, I used to call this profile the "HTMLer" (as opposed to a code-er) 2011-07-21 15:20:59+0000 <arbrandes> very hard to find 2011-07-21 15:21:14+0000 <antoviaque> they were recommended by a friend of dachary who is good, and tartarugafeliz used them for her website, they were good 2011-07-21 15:21:18+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-21 15:21:44+0000 <tartarugafeliz> they are really nice and good at work 2011-07-21 15:21:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and they deliver on time which is impressive 2011-07-21 15:21:59+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah :p 2011-07-21 15:22:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaha 2011-07-21 15:22:40+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, the only thing missing, then, is buddypress integration. 2011-07-21 15:23:13+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-21 15:23:45+0000 <antoviaque> the tricky part is the interdependency between those two parts 2011-07-21 15:24:19+0000 <antoviaque> it's better when it's the same person, but again that's what makes it a 5 legged profile 2011-07-21 15:24:29+0000 <arbrandes> Yeah, precisely 2011-07-21 15:30:12+0000 Jo (Jo) is now online 2011-07-21 15:30:36+0000 <Jo> Hi~ 2011-07-21 15:30:44+0000 <antoviaque> hi Jo! 2011-07-21 15:31:01+0000 <Jo> Been a while, how is it going? 2011-07-21 15:31:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello! 2011-07-21 15:31:11+0000 <antoviaque> It has! nice to see you : ) 2011-07-21 15:31:18+0000 <antoviaque> we just came back from the convention : ) 2011-07-21 15:31:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> have you seen the octopus delivering the flyer you helped us to write? 2011-07-21 15:31:20+0000 <Jo> you had the open source convention last week right ? :) 2011-07-21 15:31:29+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahahah 2011-07-21 15:31:33+0000 <Jo> hahahah yes I just had a look at the video on the main page 2011-07-21 15:31:34+0000 <antoviaque> yep! 2011-07-21 15:31:46+0000 <Jo> very cute octopus costume ! 2011-07-21 15:31:49+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2011-07-21 15:32:06+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz made a very good job, and perfect acting hehehe 2011-07-21 15:32:14+0000 <Jo> ;) can imagine that 2011-07-21 15:32:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> thank you thank you 2011-07-21 15:32:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahhaahahahah 2011-07-21 15:32:26+0000 <antoviaque> and you, how have you been? 2011-07-21 15:33:07+0000 <Jo> mm busy busy 2011-07-21 15:33:13+0000 <Jo> but overall, good 2011-07-21 15:33:33+0000 <Jo> I had a quite good extended weekend from 14th to this monday, came back to work on Tuesday 2011-07-21 15:34:13+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 15:34:23+0000 <Jo> getting back into the fray was hard :/ 2011-07-21 15:34:40+0000 <Jo> days off are too sweet :D heheh 2011-07-21 15:34:41+0000 <antoviaque> I can imagine! 2011-07-21 15:34:47+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe, agreed :D 2011-07-21 15:35:06+0000 <antoviaque> a lot of projects/work during the summer period? 2011-07-21 15:35:23+0000 <Jo> still my big social/serious game to release in september, so yes 2011-07-21 15:35:30+0000 <Jo> and we have an internal demo to the bosses tomorrow 2011-07-21 15:35:32+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-21 15:35:51+0000 <Jo> (and we won't have everything in it, of course :D that would be too perfect heheh) 2011-07-21 15:36:00+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha 2011-07-21 15:36:02+0000 <antoviaque> of course 2011-07-21 15:36:10+0000 <antoviaque> that's what makes internal demos fun :p 2011-07-21 15:36:24+0000 <Jo> other than that, still some talks about reviving the fighting game project (god no! I want summer holidays ;_; ) 2011-07-21 15:36:24+0000 <antoviaque> but you don't seem too stressed :D 2011-07-21 15:36:39+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2011-07-21 15:36:43+0000 <Jo> weeeeeell, I am, and I am not heheh 2011-07-21 15:37:21+0000 <antoviaque> I'm sure it will go well : ) 2011-07-21 15:37:24+0000 <Jo> we're not that formal here, so if the demo kind of goes badly, there won't be heads to cut 2011-07-21 15:37:37+0000 <antoviaque> In the worse case you can put a video, and say that the controller is a bit bugged :p 2011-07-21 15:37:54+0000 <Jo> hahah well no controller here, it's on facebook, and it's playable 2011-07-21 15:38:07+0000 <Jo> but i have to demonstrate the added value since the last (very buggy) demo 2011-07-21 15:38:26+0000 <Jo> and, well, still buggy here and there heheh ... oh well. 2011-07-21 15:38:31+0000 <antoviaque> I see : ) 2011-07-21 15:38:34+0000 <Jo> i have nice mockups to show :p 2011-07-21 15:38:56+0000 <antoviaque> here you go - put just the mockups and say that there is a freezing issue :p 2011-07-21 15:39:12+0000 <Jo> heheh, i'll remember that one, might come in handy 2011-07-21 15:39:15+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-07-21 15:39:27+0000 <Jo> so how about you, what's the follow up of the convention ? 2011-07-21 15:39:43+0000 <Jo> people played card stories ? any interesting feedbacks ? 2011-07-21 15:40:09+0000 <antoviaque> The main thing we learned was our core audience may be one we didn't anticipated, even if we knew they could like it - kids! :p 2011-07-21 15:40:30+0000 <antoviaque> We playtested it for two days, and the booth was packed with them 2011-07-21 15:40:43+0000 <antoviaque> Let me get you the video, you'll get a feel of the atmosphere 2011-07-21 15:41:24+0000 <antoviaque> http://farsides.com/members/antoviaque/activity/1226/ 2011-07-21 15:41:40+0000 <antoviaque> you can fast-forward a bit, the beginning is the setup 2011-07-21 15:42:50+0000 <Jo> hahah, nice, yep the game's atmosphere might be fit for kids 2011-07-21 15:43:09+0000 <Jo> i see the game's new layout was ready in time & working, it looks good ! 2011-07-21 15:43:20+0000 <antoviaque> yup, they are really impressive - much more imagination than we have! 2011-07-21 15:43:35+0000 <antoviaque> just the mockups & video - not the implementation : ) 2011-07-21 15:43:51+0000 <antoviaque> We're working on it now actually :p 2011-07-21 15:43:54+0000 <Jo> ah ok 2011-07-21 15:44:01+0000 <Jo> so it was a video in the video, heheh i see 2011-07-21 15:44:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> http://cardstories.org/?game_id=387&; 2011-07-21 15:44:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> come play this one with us everyone! :D 2011-07-21 15:44:31+0000 <antoviaque> oh, a game :p 2011-07-21 15:44:38+0000 <antoviaque> Jo: it was yep :p 2011-07-21 15:44:38+0000 <Jo> hard to resist 2011-07-21 15:44:48+0000 <Jo> sure, let's play a quickie one 2011-07-21 15:44:59+0000 <antoviaque> there was even people trying to touch the screen, thinking they could play like this :) 2011-07-21 15:45:51+0000 <Jo> hahahah 2011-07-21 15:45:58+0000 <Jo> you got an ipad version coming next ? ;) 2011-07-21 15:46:39+0000 <antoviaque> We've ordered a tablet already, to try it there : ) 2011-07-21 15:47:00+0000 <antoviaque> ipad I don't know (free software...), but the support is definitely good for this type of game 2011-07-21 15:47:20+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online 2011-07-21 15:47:22+0000 <Jo> aaah, yes, iOS ... 2011-07-21 15:47:33+0000 <Jo> yep, it could work nice on a tablet 2011-07-21 15:47:45+0000 <antoviaque> but it's not necessarily an issue - with HTML5 we can probably support it 2011-07-21 15:48:00+0000 <Jo> would be interesting to try 2011-07-21 15:48:04+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-21 15:48:38+0000 <antoviaque> there will be some adaptations to do I think, for example on the way to select card (we use hovers a lot right now) 2011-07-21 15:50:35+0000 <antoviaque> and also to allow to play on the same screen, in case there isn't one tablet per person 2011-07-21 15:52:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> http://cardstories.org/?game_id=388&; 2011-07-21 16:24:33+0000 <Jo> hey, i was having a look at your redmine new version, and was curious about bananas, watermelons & order :) what are they for ? 2011-07-21 16:25:30+0000 <Jo> very fruty stuff :p 2011-07-21 16:39:20+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha 2011-07-21 16:39:44+0000 <antoviaque> Jo: it's to differentiate between code, art, game design 2011-07-21 16:41:09+0000 <antoviaque> otherwise it get a bit tricky to know which story we should chose - when we have 20 stories points but that half of them are from a designer, it's easy to put stories for 20 points that end up being mostly code :p 2011-07-21 16:49:23+0000 <Jo> mmm 2011-07-21 16:50:00+0000 <Jo> i see 2011-07-21 16:50:23+0000 <Jo> so what is the exact difficulty value of the story ? the sum of banana & watermelon ? 2011-07-21 16:50:34+0000 <antoviaque> Actually we don't use it too much, since the only team with more than one person is the coding one, so we remain light 2011-07-21 16:50:35+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-21 16:50:48+0000 <Jo> i see :) 2011-07-21 16:50:54+0000 <Jo> make sense then 2011-07-21 17:02:30+0000 <Jo> Xavier, do you think you and David would have some time for a beer next week or the following week ? 2011-07-21 17:03:06+0000 <Jo> (you guys & any other farsides staff that would like to have a beer of course) 2011-07-21 17:16:03+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, what IE versions are we supposed to support? 2011-07-21 17:16:08+0000 <arbrandes> Hey Jo!! 2011-07-21 17:16:51+0000 <arbrandes> I'd love to get a beer. Too bad I'm on the other side of the Atlantic. :P 2011-07-21 17:17:19+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I ask because the rounded corners thing ain't working on IE8 2011-07-21 17:21:49+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, the problem with using <img>s is hardcoding the src in the HTML, is that it? 2011-07-21 17:31:38+0000 <Jo> got to run ~ 2011-07-21 17:32:05+0000 <Jo> antoviaque: don't hesitate to send me a mail or sms if you got time in the coming weeks, would be nice to see you guys ;) 2011-07-21 17:32:25+0000 <Jo> arbrandes: would have liked a beer with you too :) 2011-07-21 17:32:37+0000 <Jo> see you guys! 2011-07-21 17:32:41+0000 <arbrandes> see you, Jo! 2011-07-21 18:21:23+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-07-21 18:38:18+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-21 18:49:50+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: uh, doesn't work on IE 8? that was supposed to be the point of the htc behavior file, damn 2011-07-21 18:49:52+0000 <antoviaque> let me see 2011-07-21 18:50:04+0000 <arbrandes> It works on IE9 2011-07-21 18:51:25+0000 <antoviaque> the changelog file said "IE8 standards mode compatibility" -- I should have tested, sorry 2011-07-21 18:51:40+0000 <antoviaque> launching a windows to look at it 2011-07-21 18:53:42+0000 <arbrandes> np 2011-07-21 18:53:48+0000 <arbrandes> Up until what IE do we have to test? 2011-07-21 18:53:52+0000 <arbrandes> 7? 2011-07-21 18:54:02+0000 <arbrandes> s/Up/Down/ :) 2011-07-21 18:54:45+0000 <antoviaque> good question - we said ie 7 if I remember correctly, but let me check 2011-07-21 18:55:13+0000 <arbrandes> Yes, in the contract it's IE7 2011-07-21 18:55:21+0000 <arbrandes> But it doesn't mention IE9 2011-07-21 18:55:42+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-21 18:56:07+0000 <antoviaque> not sure how the market share has evolved - having a look while virtualbox upgrades 2011-07-21 18:58:05+0000 <arbrandes> http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-monthly-201101-201106 2011-07-21 18:58:08+0000 <antoviaque> IE 7 has dropped to 6% according to http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-monthly-201006-201106 2011-07-21 18:58:09+0000 <antoviaque> ahaha 2011-07-21 18:58:12+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe 2011-07-21 18:58:16+0000 <antoviaque> I think we can drop it 2011-07-21 18:59:10+0000 <antoviaque> doesn't say about ie 9, but it will likely increase in the coming times anyway, could be a good one to replace ie 7 2011-07-21 18:59:23+0000 <arbrandes> IE9 share = 6% too 2011-07-21 18:59:31+0000 <arbrandes> But it will rise, surely 2011-07-21 18:59:36+0000 <arbrandes> While IE7 will fall 2011-07-21 18:59:47+0000 <antoviaque> we can also probably drop firefox 3 now 2011-07-21 19:00:21+0000 <antoviaque> even if it isn't really an issue for us I think, it will run 2011-07-21 19:00:41+0000 <arbrandes> Yep, no problems there, at least until we start with advanced HTML5 stuff ;) 2011-07-21 19:00:50+0000 <antoviaque> yep ;p 2011-07-21 19:01:15+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'll post something about this in the buddypress to give everyone a chance to comment, but sounds good 2011-07-21 19:01:25+0000 <antoviaque> I'll still check this ie 8 issue 2011-07-21 19:01:25+0000 <arbrandes> Roger that 2011-07-21 19:10:25+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 19:24:35+0000 <antoviaque> grmll, virtualbox chose the right moment to be a pain in the *ss 2011-07-21 19:24:45+0000 <antoviaque> sorry, trying to get it to work : ) 2011-07-21 19:53:58+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, np, I had some trouble with it today, too 2011-07-21 19:54:22+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2011-07-21 19:54:25+0000 <antoviaque> every time the kernel upgrades, it's a mess : ) 2011-07-21 19:55:03+0000 <antoviaque> and with the backup still running, I download very slowly today 2011-07-21 19:55:16+0000 <antoviaque> murphy's law ... ;p 2011-07-21 19:57:05+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehehe, happens all the time ;) 2011-07-21 19:57:14+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-21 19:57:38+0000 <antoviaque> I would have rather seen murphy got wrong when he thought of his law :p 2011-07-21 19:59:02+0000 * dachary finished unpacking 2011-07-21 19:59:10+0000 <antoviaque> \o/ 2011-07-21 19:59:15+0000 <antoviaque> congratz :) 2011-07-21 19:59:25+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-07-21 19:59:52+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: is there anything requiring my immediate attention ? 2011-07-21 20:00:20+0000 <dachary> if not I'll crash into bed & resume tomorrow morning with semi-normal life 2011-07-21 20:04:24+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 20:05:08+0000 <antoviaque> re - out of memory crash ;p 2011-07-21 20:06:44+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: so how does it feel? :) 2011-07-21 20:10:09+0000 <arbrandes> hey dachary, contratz on upacking :) 2011-07-21 20:10:09+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: very weird. We visited friends in the afternoon : they swapped home with someone in berlin and live a few blocs aways. Felt like home except we're not home :-D 2011-07-21 20:10:14+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-21 20:10:20+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: very weird. We visited friends in the afternoon : they swapped home with someone in berlin and live a few blocs aways. Felt like home except we're not home :-D 2011-07-21 20:10:25+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: thanks :-) 2011-07-21 20:10:39+0000 <arbrandes> you're good, it usually takes me at least a week, hehehe 2011-07-21 20:10:41+0000 <dachary> I plan to work a few hours on cardstories tomorrow 2011-07-21 20:11:10+0000 <antoviaque> ahah - and on IRC you're always at home too :p 2011-07-21 20:11:16+0000 <dachary> yes :-) 2011-07-21 20:12:11+0000 <antoviaque> I can't wait to move too - I love the feeling of a new home :D 2011-07-21 20:12:34+0000 <antoviaque> Looks like we'll be visiting a bit of Marseille for this too soon :p 2011-07-21 20:12:50+0000 <antoviaque> Or Barcelona.. Or Amsterdam... Or Berlin... :D 2011-07-21 20:14:10+0000 <J-Mad> you come to marseille antoviaque ? 2011-07-21 20:14:22+0000 <antoviaque> Maybe yep : ) 2011-07-21 20:14:33+0000 <J-Mad> ok 2011-07-21 20:14:34+0000 <J-Mad> coolllll 2011-07-21 20:14:40+0000 <antoviaque> well we changed our minds about the destination about 128723984 times, so I'm not sure ahahah : ) 2011-07-21 20:14:50+0000 <J-Mad> tiens moi au courant :) 2011-07-21 20:14:56+0000 <J-Mad> marseille is my city :) 2011-07-21 20:14:58+0000 <antoviaque> for sure : ) 2011-07-21 20:15:23+0000 <antoviaque> Would be nice actually, it has always been in my mind as a city I'd like to live 2011-07-21 20:15:30+0000 <antoviaque> what do you think of it? :D 2011-07-21 20:15:41+0000 <J-Mad> if you come, drink binouze is obligatory :) 2011-07-21 20:15:55+0000 <antoviaque> ah, that goes without saying :D 2011-07-21 20:16:13+0000 <J-Mad> for your question 2011-07-21 20:16:19+0000 <J-Mad> marseille is ... 2011-07-21 20:17:21+0000 <J-Mad> worst and best city in same time 2011-07-21 20:18:05+0000 <antoviaque> uhuh : ) 2011-07-21 20:19:12+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: :-) 2011-07-21 20:20:51+0000 <antoviaque> J-Mad: what do you mean by best and worse? :) 2011-07-21 20:22:36+0000 <J-Mad> hum 2011-07-21 20:22:41+0000 <J-Mad> can i in french ? 2011-07-21 20:29:32+0000 <antoviaque> of course 2011-07-21 20:29:35+0000 <antoviaque> you can use eve 2011-07-21 20:29:42+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: translate hello all! 2011-07-21 20:29:42+0000 <eve> antoviaque: hello all 2011-07-21 20:29:54+0000 <antoviaque> well, now she's lazy, but usually she translates ;p 2011-07-21 20:30:51+0000 <J-Mad> ouais mais elle va faire du charabia :) 2011-07-21 20:30:54+0000 <J-Mad> je serais cours 2011-07-21 20:31:14+0000 <antoviaque> yes and no, she uses google translate :p 2011-07-21 20:31:28+0000 <antoviaque> ok, say in french I'll translate : ) 2011-07-21 20:32:24+0000 <J-Mad> alors le pire, parce que c'est une ville sale, avec des grêves de bus, d'éboueurs, des bouchons le matin en centre ville, des bouchons le soir, des metros qui en semaine stop à 23h, et puis surtout surtout des marseillais qui s'enervent, crient, sont partout, tout le temps apart quand ils sont à l'apéro 2011-07-21 20:32:54+0000 <antoviaque> ahah : ) 2011-07-21 20:33:41+0000 <J-Mad> la meilleur parce qu'il fait beau, parce que c'est une ville du sud, parce que ca fait du bien de marcher dans les rues, meme pleine de papier gras et de risquer sa vie en commendant un kebab dont la viande doit etre la depuis 3 jours. Parce que les calanques c'est le paradis. Parce que les gens ici sont vraiment du sud. bise et tutoiement au bout de 30 secondes, même sans te connaitre 2011-07-21 20:33:48+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: finally got around to see the issue, I'll try to work on it now 2011-07-21 20:34:26+0000 <J-Mad> parce qu'il y a meme un starbuck, plein de restos et de bar cool et que l'indolence du sud, c'est juste comme un gros bonbon qui finit jamais :) 2011-07-21 20:34:39+0000 <antoviaque> J-Mad: you make me want to go even more than I did :p 2011-07-21 20:34:41+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, awesome! :) The animation is done, working on unit tests. (Phew, this one was harder than I expected!) 2011-07-21 20:35:01+0000 <antoviaque> let's see how eve manages to translate this :D 2011-07-21 20:35:10+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: translate alors le pire, parce que c'est une ville sale, avec des grêves de bus, d'éboueurs, des bouchons le matin en centre ville, des bouchons le soir, des metros qui en semaine stop à 23h, et puis surtout surtout des marseillais qui s'enervent, crient, sont partout, tout le temps apart quand ils sont à l'apéro 2011-07-21 20:35:11+0000 <eve> antoviaque: then the worst, because it is a dirty city, with strikes bus, garbage, traffic jams in the morning in the city center caps the evening of that week metros stop at 23h, and then especially especially Marseille to get angry, shout, are everywhere, all the time apart when they are at a cocktail 2011-07-21 20:35:29+0000 <antoviaque> not too good, but not too bad either : ) 2011-07-21 20:35:30+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2011-07-21 20:35:37+0000 <J-Mad> :) 2011-07-21 20:36:03+0000 <antoviaque> "...and then especially especially people of Marseille that get angry, shout, are everywhere, all the time apart when they are at a cocktail" 2011-07-21 20:36:18+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: translate la meilleur parce qu'il fait beau, parce que c'est une ville du sud, parce que ca fait du bien de marcher dans les rues, meme pleine de papier gras et de risquer sa vie en commendant un kebab dont la viande doit etre la depuis 3 jours. Parce que les calanques c'est le paradis. Parce que les gens ici sont vraiment du sud. bise et tutoiement au bout de 30 secondes, même sans te connaitre 2011-07-21 20:36:19+0000 <eve> antoviaque: the better because it's nice, because it is a southern city, because it feels good to walk in the streets, even full of greasy paper and risk his life in commendam a kebab meat which must be the last 3 days. Because the creeks is paradise. Because people here are really the south. weatherstripping and familiarity within 30 seconds, even without knowing you 2011-07-21 20:37:02+0000 <antoviaque> "...in ordering a kebab meat which must have been there for 3 days" 2011-07-21 20:37:38+0000 <antoviaque> and "weatherstripping" = kiss and using "tu" (eve must be drunk) 2011-07-21 20:38:05+0000 <antoviaque> it's really nice - the bad part doesn't seem too bad ;p 2011-07-21 20:38:12+0000 <antoviaque> especially when you compare to paris! 2011-07-21 20:40:02+0000 <J-Mad> ha :) 2011-07-21 20:40:12+0000 <J-Mad> paris is good for short hollydays :) 2011-07-21 20:57:47+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, yes 2011-07-21 20:58:03+0000 <antoviaque> and preferably in july/august, when the city is empty, and the sun is shinning 2011-07-21 20:58:40+0000 <antoviaque> (although this year, the shinning sun part is still impatiently waited upon ;p) 2011-07-21 21:12:33+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: thinking of using https://github.com/malsup/corner for the corner instead of the .htc (which generates errors on IE) - any objection? 2011-07-21 21:12:59+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, nope, I trust you :) 2011-07-21 21:13:42+0000 <antoviaque> it puts a bit of presentation in the JS, but compared to the bronx it would put in the HTML if we did it by hand... 2011-07-21 21:13:44+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-07-21 21:13:48+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ok for you too? 2011-07-21 21:14:54+0000 <dachary> hum 2011-07-21 21:15:52+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: deal 2011-07-21 21:16:17+0000 <antoviaque> cool : ) 2011-07-21 21:16:18+0000 <antoviaque> thanks! 2011-07-21 21:58:58+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I've tried several plugins, they all don't work - unbelievable 2011-07-21 21:59:51+0000 <antoviaque> I'm thinking of using the "too bad for them" approach, and not have rounded borders for users with ie<9.0 2011-07-21 22:00:32+0000 <antoviaque> what do you think? 2011-07-21 22:01:07+0000 * antoviaque is asking tartaruga before she leaves 2011-07-21 22:02:06+0000 <antoviaque> she said "what? f*ck internet explorer" :p 2011-07-21 22:02:55+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: dachary: ^ 2011-07-21 22:03:24+0000 <arbrandes> hahahahaha 2011-07-21 22:03:33+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-07-21 22:04:15+0000 <arbrandes> The only alternative I see is to make the background a relugar img, and animate that. But apparently that'll be too dirty, right? 2011-07-21 22:05:01+0000 <antoviaque> hmm 2011-07-21 22:05:35+0000 <arbrandes> I haven't seen any hardcoded img srcs in the HTML, how would be go about it the "right" way? Setting it in javascript? 2011-07-21 22:05:50+0000 <antoviaque> that's what we use for cards 2011-07-21 22:07:10+0000 * antoviaque is thinking 2011-07-21 22:07:12+0000 <arbrandes> I haven't tried it, but I believe it would be possible to just set a higher z-index on the sentence div than on the "background" img, and animate the whole thing. 2011-07-21 22:07:45+0000 <antoviaque> yup - the card itself has a background (the white border) and the actual card on top 2011-07-21 22:07:53+0000 <antoviaque> so it works 2011-07-21 22:08:48+0000 <antoviaque> the difference is that the size of the content can potentially change in the bubble 2011-07-21 22:09:06+0000 <antoviaque> but it could stil work actually, you're right 2011-07-21 22:09:16+0000 <arbrandes> As far as I can see, this problem already exists :) 2011-07-21 22:09:21+0000 <arbrandes> (the content size) 2011-07-21 22:09:38+0000 <arbrandes> So nothing would change there 2011-07-21 22:10:20+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-07-21 22:11:16+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'm going to try that 2011-07-21 22:11:18+0000 <antoviaque> thanks : ) 2011-07-21 22:26:45+0000 <arbrandes> np :) 2011-07-21 22:38:43+0000 <antoviaque> done - works much better :) 2011-07-21 22:39:24+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: how do you want me to send you the changes? do you want me to amend my previous commit, or a new one? 2011-07-21 22:39:58+0000 <arbrandes> cool, a new commit is fine! 2011-07-21 22:40:05+0000 <antoviaque> alright : ) 2011-07-21 22:49:18+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: https://gitorious.org/~antoviaque/cardstories/antoviaques-cardstories/commit/c8c8af5f9f33082d00278a9b736b4cded2663c71 2011-07-21 22:49:33+0000 <antoviaque> ok, going to bed now : ) 2011-07-21 22:50:02+0000 <antoviaque> hope there is no issue with it - if there is, let me know and I'll fix it first thing tomorrow 2011-07-21 22:51:46+0000 <arbrandes> Thanks antoviaque, have a good night's sleep! :) 2011-07-21 22:52:06+0000 <antoviaque> can't believe I've ended up spending 8 hours on this task at the end :/ 2011-07-21 22:52:18+0000 <antoviaque> thanks - have a good evening/night too! 2011-07-21 22:54:24+0000 <arbrandes> Oh, I've been over 8 hours for a while now, hehehe... Later Xavier 2011-07-21 22:55:18+0000 <antoviaque> see you : ) 2011-07-21 23:24:05+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
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