Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-07-29.
2011-07-29 00:35:05+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-29 01:26:48+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-29 05:55:22+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now offline 2011-07-29 06:40:04+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-29 07:01:35+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-29 07:58:02+0000 <antoviaque> hi! 2011-07-29 08:04:01+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: hi 2011-07-29 08:04:57+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I exhausted crossbrowsertesting 2011-07-29 08:05:27+0000 <dachary> I need a refill ;-) 2011-07-29 08:06:02+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ahahaha 2011-07-29 08:06:04+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-07-29 08:06:39+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: don't worry though, I'm mostly done. 2011-07-29 08:07:29+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: np, it was just the free trial - I've now activated the subscription itself 2011-07-29 08:08:23+0000 <antoviaque> you now have 150 minutes/month : ) 2011-07-29 08:08:29+0000 <dachary> \o/ 2011-07-29 08:08:34+0000 <dachary> that should be plenty 2011-07-29 08:08:48+0000 <dachary> that being said, I used 60 minutes within a day 2011-07-29 08:09:02+0000 <dachary> it can go very quickly when debugging intensively 2011-07-29 08:09:09+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-29 08:09:20+0000 <dachary> just taking screenshots is not too consuming 2011-07-29 08:09:32+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: did you see my selection of browsers ? 2011-07-29 08:10:02+0000 <antoviaque> but it's not every day that we do this cross-browser debugging - and the is report of unused minutes from one month to the next 2011-07-29 08:10:06+0000 <antoviaque> nope, let me see 2011-07-29 08:10:09+0000 <dachary> you will see it at http://crossbrowsertesting.com/users/farsides/screenshots/run 2011-07-29 08:10:31+0000 <dachary> when you select the "farsides" list of browsers 2011-07-29 08:10:46+0000 <dachary> in the 2. Select the list of browsers to test.(shown below) 2011-07-29 08:10:47+0000 <dachary> menu 2011-07-29 08:11:30+0000 <antoviaque> even IE 6.0! courageous :p 2011-07-29 08:11:43+0000 <dachary> no 2011-07-29 08:11:47+0000 <dachary> hum 2011-07-29 08:12:00+0000 <dachary> when you select "farsides" you see IE6 ? 2011-07-29 08:12:03+0000 <dachary> http://crossbrowsertesting.com/users/farsides/screenshots/58595/lastRun 2011-07-29 08:12:11+0000 <antoviaque> ahhh no, sorry 2011-07-29 08:12:23+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-07-29 08:12:41+0000 <antoviaque> yup : ) 2011-07-29 08:12:49+0000 <antoviaque> still IE 7.0 though? 2011-07-29 08:12:53+0000 <dachary> http://crossbrowsertesting.com/users/farsides/screenshots/58595/lastRun is the result of running the tests on all selected browsers 2011-07-29 08:12:56+0000 <dachary> take a look 2011-07-29 08:14:08+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: ie7 mostly works 2011-07-29 08:14:35+0000 <dachary> the errors are marginal and could easily be fixed 2011-07-29 08:14:44+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: good morning 2011-07-29 08:15:01+0000 <antoviaque> issue with firefox, for the others how do you see if they all passed? 2011-07-29 08:15:37+0000 <mtyaka> dachary, antoviaque: good morning 2011-07-29 08:15:47+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: hello : ) 2011-07-29 08:15:48+0000 <dachary> there is a green line if all went well / red line if not 2011-07-29 08:15:51+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: 2011-07-29 08:15:57+0000 <antoviaque> ah 2011-07-29 08:16:04+0000 <dachary> you can click on the screenshot to enlarge 2011-07-29 08:16:16+0000 <dachary> http://crossbrowsertesting.com/users/farsides/screenshot/z7852bbeba2702aa8133 2011-07-29 08:16:19+0000 <antoviaque> so now we run better on IE than on Firefox :p 2011-07-29 08:16:21+0000 <dachary> but you only see part of it 2011-07-29 08:16:39+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: congratz, impressive achievement :) 2011-07-29 08:16:50+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: I'd be interested in your input about the ff errors on the animations at http://crossbrowsertesting.com/users/farsides/screenshots/58595/lastRun 2011-07-29 08:17:11+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: if you want to see all of it you can click "Full page" 2011-07-29 08:17:26+0000 <antoviaque> ahh, cool 2011-07-29 08:17:30+0000 <dachary> and you'll see something like http://media.crossbrowsertesting.com/users/32546/screenshots/full/z7852bbeba2702aa8133.png 2011-07-29 08:17:45+0000 <antoviaque> very cool actually - this site rocks 2011-07-29 08:17:46+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: i'll see what i can figure out 2011-07-29 08:17:50+0000 <dachary> which is the usefull test error report 2011-07-29 08:18:10+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: thanks. It's likely to be a simple problem. 2011-07-29 08:19:51+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-29 08:20:32+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it's quite convenient indeed. Running the tests for all browsers every week or so will allow us to keep the browser compatibility in good shape. 2011-07-29 08:20:39+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: in any case thanks for fixing those - from the distance it looked like hell : ) 2011-07-29 08:20:43+0000 <dachary> The first time is always quite painfull. 2011-07-29 08:21:42+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: It's very frightening and I'm sure that unless you use jquery it cannot be done in a lifetime ;-) I had faith that the problems were shallow and I'm happy to see it was true. 2011-07-29 08:22:08+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-29 08:24:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello guys! 2011-07-29 08:25:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> look what I found today, tools for css! I don't know if you use it but there is one with animations I thought that would be interesting http://webdesignledger.com/tools/8-useful-css-tools 2011-07-29 08:25:20+0000 <dachary> There is a constraint though. All tests cannot run longer than 30 seconds because this is the maximum allowed delay when taking screeshots. That advocates for making sure tests run quickly ;-) 2011-07-29 08:26:41+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah 2011-07-29 08:26:54+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: looking (hi) thanks (hi) 2011-07-29 08:27:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2011-07-29 08:27:05+0000 <antoviaque> if needed we can try to talk to the support, I've heard they are reactive 2011-07-29 08:27:41+0000 <antoviaque> http://font-combinator.com/ can be useful when we discuss sizes :D 2011-07-29 08:28:48+0000 <antoviaque> http://www.sencha.com/products/animator/ shows that hopefully we'll get animations tools for CSS soon (need a free software one ;p 2011-07-29 08:31:52+0000 <antoviaque> CSS lint found 0 errors and 137 warnings http://csslint.net/ 2011-07-29 08:32:14+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: can we put an estimate on #272 ? 2011-07-29 08:32:24+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: sure - how much? 2011-07-29 08:32:32+0000 <mtyaka> 6 hours? 2011-07-29 08:32:43+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good 2011-07-29 08:32:47+0000 <antoviaque> thanks! 2011-07-29 08:33:00+0000 <mtyaka> ok, i'll update the ticket right away :) 2011-07-29 08:33:04+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-29 08:36:16+0000 <antoviaque> thanks tartarugafeliz, interesting links :) 2011-07-29 08:36:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-07-29 08:37:51+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: one more thing regarding #272... after clicking the ok button, other cards start flying back to the deck, while the chosen one stays selected, and is later animated to the center of the board. Did I understand correctly that you will take care of the selected card? 2011-07-29 08:38:03+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-29 08:38:09+0000 <mtyaka> ok, great 2011-07-29 08:40:44+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: Didn't look at it in details yet (still refreshing myself on the codebase), but I should probably wait for you to finish - correct? 2011-07-29 08:41:06+0000 <antoviaque> or do you see a way to work on it at the same time? 2011-07-29 08:41:29+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: i think we could work on it at the same time 2011-07-29 08:41:43+0000 <mtyaka> i'll take care of the other cards, but won't touch the selected one 2011-07-29 08:42:05+0000 <mtyaka> currently the selected one gets deselected after clicking 'OK' 2011-07-29 08:42:20+0000 <mtyaka> it should keep being selected (indicated by the green border) 2011-07-29 08:42:27+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-29 08:42:43+0000 <mtyaka> and it should also be "frozen" 2011-07-29 08:43:21+0000 <mtyaka> right now after clicking 'OK', it still moves in the jqDock kind of way 2011-07-29 08:44:31+0000 <mtyaka> i think calling jqDock('freeze') should give you the desired effect - i will take care that the other cards are hidden after clicking 'OK', you needn't worry about that 2011-07-29 08:45:02+0000 <mtyaka> also animating it to the center shouldn't interfere with my work in any way 2011-07-29 08:47:23+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'll have a closer look and see how I can do this 2011-07-29 09:05:49+0000 <arbrandes> hey folks 2011-07-29 09:07:18+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, can you check that jqDock expansion animation is weird in cardstories/master in IE8 for you too? 2011-07-29 09:08:06+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: hi! i'll check 2011-07-29 09:09:32+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: hi 2011-07-29 09:09:49+0000 <arbrandes> hey dachary, morning! 2011-07-29 09:12:57+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, false alarm 2011-07-29 09:13:15+0000 <arbrandes> sorry, IE was caching stuff rather persistently :/ 2011-07-29 09:13:25+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-29 09:14:01+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: ahahah 2011-07-29 09:15:12+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: it seems ok here... what is weird about it? 2011-07-29 09:15:14+0000 <arbrandes> hehehe, yeah, the default "shift-delete" options weren't doing it. I had to go in the options menu, clear everything, and restart the browser. 2011-07-29 09:15:24+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, false alarm, sorry 2011-07-29 09:15:32+0000 <arbrandes> caching problems 2011-07-29 09:15:37+0000 <mtyaka> no problem :) 2011-07-29 09:15:52+0000 <mtyaka> btw, we will probably need to do something to preload the images of the cards 2011-07-29 09:16:17+0000 <mtyaka> maybe it's just my slow connection, but it looks horrible when the images load slowly 2011-07-29 09:16:36+0000 <mtyaka> (the whole animation finishes before the images finish loading) 2011-07-29 09:19:39+0000 <arbrandes> yuck, that sucks indeed 2011-07-29 09:22:32+0000 <antoviaque> yup, we talked about putting all images as sprites in a big image to solve this 2011-07-29 09:23:18+0000 <antoviaque> would both preload and speed up loading itself 2011-07-29 09:23:31+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: yes, that would be a nice solution, indeed 2011-07-29 09:34:33+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: if that's any confort the image loading is slow here too 2011-07-29 10:03:00+0000 <arbrandes> Ack, what was Microsoft *thinking*? 2011-07-29 10:04:59+0000 <arbrandes> To give a transparent overlay "substance" so nobody can click stuff under it, you have to give it an opacity of... wait for it... zero!! 2011-07-29 10:05:20+0000 <arbrandes> (and in a non-standard way, too... brilliant! :P) 2011-07-29 10:05:38+0000 <antoviaque> bunch of crazies : ) 2011-07-29 10:06:22+0000 * antoviaque wonder how this kind of decisions are taken in there 2011-07-29 10:08:56+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, that's exactly what I was trying to figure out, hehehe 2011-07-29 10:09:27+0000 <antoviaque> they probably don't take the decision at all :p 2011-07-29 10:09:44+0000 <arbrandes> hahahha, yes, that seems the likeliest scenario 2011-07-29 10:18:13+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, working on http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/250, btw. 4 hours already spent, but the hardest part is over (i.e., IE). What remains is just implementing clicking of the button, and tests. 2011-07-29 10:19:22+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good - thanks! 2011-07-29 11:19:37+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: would you agree that I create a separate tasks similar to #224 for the purpose of adressing the animation related portability issues ? 2011-07-29 11:20:11+0000 <dachary> I'm asking in case you already figured it out ;-) 2011-07-29 11:21:46+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: heh, no, i didn't have time to look into that yet 2011-07-29 11:21:55+0000 <mtyaka> i cannot see the issues locally 2011-07-29 11:22:03+0000 <mtyaka> so, yes, an issue would be nice 2011-07-29 11:22:17+0000 <mtyaka> (i think i use the word "issue" too much :) 2011-07-29 11:22:50+0000 <mtyaka> i meant to say a task would be nice 2011-07-29 11:22:55+0000 <dachary> I'll create a new one then 2011-07-29 11:25:14+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/276 done :-) 2011-07-29 11:25:52+0000 <mtyaka> thanks :) 2011-07-29 11:29:37+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: antoviaque: I won't be able to attend this afternoon meeting. Here is my say in advance : Yesterday I completed http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/224 and researched http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/275. This morning I wrote http://dachary.org/?p=800 and created http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/276. I do not plan on working this afternoon. Have a nice week-end everyone :-) 2011-07-29 11:30:23+0000 <arbrandes> thanks dachary, great work on #224, working with IE is always an ordeal :) 2011-07-29 11:31:18+0000 <dachary> thanks. It made me feel actually useful this week. You're setting a high standard in this regard ;-) 2011-07-29 11:32:18+0000 <dachary> Updated: I won't be able to attend this afternoon meeting. Here is my say in advance : Yesterday I completed http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/224, researched http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/275 and merged arbrandes master branch (which merged mtyaka branch). This morning I wrote http://dachary.org/?p=800 and created http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/276. I do not plan on working this afternoon. Have a nice week-end everyone :-) 2011-07-29 11:34:49+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, don't worry mate, after all I dedicate my full time to CS, now... I'm the one who's worried about showing some work for it. ;) Anyway, thanks again. 2011-07-29 11:35:07+0000 <arbrandes> And have a nice weekend, too :) 2011-07-29 11:35:09+0000 <dachary> :-) 2011-07-29 12:00:34+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ok : ) 2011-07-29 12:01:07+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: want to try using eve for the meeting? 2011-07-29 12:01:47+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, yup, looking throught the backlog to see how to do it :) 2011-07-29 12:01:51+0000 <arbrandes> *through 2011-07-29 12:02:31+0000 <antoviaque> say "how do i use dailymeeting" to her in private : ) 2011-07-29 12:02:53+0000 <antoviaque> or even just "help" if you don't remember that, she lists the options 2011-07-29 12:04:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahahaha 2011-07-29 12:04:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> in private is funny 2011-07-29 12:04:38+0000 <antoviaque> eheheh 2011-07-29 12:04:51+0000 <arbrandes> heheheheh 2011-07-29 12:05:02+0000 <arbrandes> I tried "help", but she didn't show me the daily meeting option specifically 2011-07-29 12:06:36+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, mtyaka, tartarugafeliz, dachary (if you're available), we're starting the meeting, now powered by eve_! 2011-07-29 12:06:48+0000 <mtyaka> go eve_! 2011-07-29 12:06:50+0000 <arbrandes> eve_, start dailymeeting 2011-07-29 12:06:50+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: yesterday|today|blockers <your report>" 2011-07-29 12:07:00+0000 <arbrandes> I'll start 2011-07-29 12:07:01+0000 <antoviaque> yeyyy! 2011-07-29 12:07:02+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2011-07-29 12:07:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaha 2011-07-29 12:07:16+0000 <arbrandes> eve_: yesterday helped dachary a little bit with IE8 issues, discussed a standard git workflow with the team, integrated the info box and jqdock animation (#273), and started implementing behavior of the modal box (#250). 2011-07-29 12:07:16+0000 <eve> Done: helped dachary a little bit with IE8 issues, discussed a standard git workflow with the team, integrated the info box and jqdock animation (#273), and started implementing behavior of the modal box (#250) 2011-07-29 12:07:25+0000 <arbrandes> eve_: today already got back on #250 and solved an IE8 quirk, plan to finish it and story #194 today. 2011-07-29 12:07:25+0000 <eve> Next: already got back on #250 and solved an IE8 quirk, plan to finish it and story #194 today 2011-07-29 12:07:47+0000 <arbrandes> eve_: blockers none. 2011-07-29 12:07:47+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2011-07-29 12:07:58+0000 <arbrandes> Awesome :) 2011-07-29 12:08:08+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-07-29 12:08:18+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'll try too 2011-07-29 12:08:20+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, wanna go? 2011-07-29 12:08:31+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: yesterday Finished configuring eve for daily meetings, changed the antispam plugin on buddypress (wasn't working), updated http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Requirements_and_deliverables_for_patch_submission, agreed on deadline for farsides.com website (Tuesday 8th Aug), checked tasks with deborah & mtyaka, spent time getting up to date on the code, and started working on #274 2011-07-29 12:08:31+0000 <eve> Done: Finished configuring eve for daily meetings, changed the antispam plugin on buddypress (wasn't working), updated http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Requirements_and_deliverables_for_patch_submission, agreed on deadline for farsides.com website (Tuesday 8th Aug), checked tasks with deborah & mtyaka, spent time getting up to date on the code, and started working on #274 2011-07-29 12:08:51+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: today Finish #274 2011-07-29 12:08:51+0000 <eve> Next: Finish #274 2011-07-29 12:08:59+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: blockers None! 2011-07-29 12:08:59+0000 <eve> Blockers: None 2011-07-29 12:09:19+0000 <arbrandes> What's #274? Lemme look 2011-07-29 12:09:21+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve_: yesterday I've worked #264 and #266 2011-07-29 12:09:21+0000 <eve> Done: I've worked #264 and #266 2011-07-29 12:09:39+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: the last part of the #195 story 2011-07-29 12:10:15+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: yesterday finished #246. 2011-07-29 12:10:15+0000 <eve> Done: finished #246 2011-07-29 12:10:21+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, ah, centering the card, cool 2011-07-29 12:10:24+0000 <antoviaque> about moving the selected card from the dock to its position 2011-07-29 12:10:24+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve_:today I'll finish #267 and work on #268 and #269 2011-07-29 12:10:24+0000 <eve> Next: I'll finish #267 and work on #268 and #269 2011-07-29 12:10:25+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-29 12:10:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve_:no blockers 2011-07-29 12:10:46+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Sorry... 2011-07-29 12:10:56+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: today I worked on #272, made some progress, I haven't finished yet, but will probably finish today or tomorrow. After I finish #272 I will work on #276, unless there are other tasks with higher priority waiting for me :). 2011-07-29 12:10:56+0000 <eve> Next: I worked on #272, made some progress, I haven't finished yet, but will probably finish today or tomorrow. After I finish #272 I will work on #276, unless there are other tasks with higher priority waiting for me :) 2011-07-29 12:10:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve_: blockers none 2011-07-29 12:10:59+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2011-07-29 12:11:04+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: blockers none 2011-07-29 12:11:04+0000 <eve> Blockers: none 2011-07-29 12:11:51+0000 <arbrandes> thanks for all the videos and slices, tartarugafeliz :) 2011-07-29 12:12:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-07-29 12:12:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yw 2011-07-29 12:12:04+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, 272 sounds tough 2011-07-29 12:12:33+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, are you going to have to "minimize" the cards first? 2011-07-29 12:12:34+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: it's not as tough as it is hackish 2011-07-29 12:13:12+0000 <mtyaka> the cards inside jqDock are actually copies of the cards that come flying from the deck 2011-07-29 12:13:49+0000 <mtyaka> and since the cards inside jqDock are larger, they cover the deck cards behind, so that they cannot be seen 2011-07-29 12:13:50+0000 <arbrandes> ah, ok, good luck then :) 2011-07-29 12:13:56+0000 <arbrandes> 276 looks like it's my fault 2011-07-29 12:14:01+0000 <arbrandes> ;) 2011-07-29 12:14:11+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yup, took the same approach for moving the card 2011-07-29 12:14:32+0000 <arbrandes> dachary already left his comment before the meeting 2011-07-29 12:14:48+0000 <arbrandes> <dachary> Updated: I won't be able to attend this afternoon meeting. Here is my say in advance : Yesterday I completed http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/224, researched http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/275 and merged arbrandes master branch (which merged mtyaka branch). This morning I wrote http://dachary.org/?p=800 and created http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/276. I do not plan on working this afternoon. Have a nice week-end everyone :-) 2011-07-29 12:15:11+0000 <antoviaque> I'll tell eve : ) 2011-07-29 12:15:15+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: can you reproduce the problems from #272? the tests all work fine for me on FF5 2011-07-29 12:15:22+0000 <mtyaka> i will try with other versions of FF 2011-07-29 12:15:38+0000 <mtyaka> sorry, i meant #276 2011-07-29 12:15:41+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, 276, you mean? Haven't tried, just looked at the screenshot 2011-07-29 12:15:43+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: yesterday DACHARY: completed http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/224, researched http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/275 and merged arbrandes master branch (which merged mtyaka branch). 2011-07-29 12:15:43+0000 <eve> Done: DACHARY: completed http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/224, researched http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/275 and merged arbrandes master branch (which merged mtyaka branch) 2011-07-29 12:16:17+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: yesterday DACHARY: This morning I wrote http://dachary.org/?p=800 and created http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/276. 2011-07-29 12:16:17+0000 <eve> Done: DACHARY: This morning I wrote http://dachary.org/?p=800 and created http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/276 2011-07-29 12:16:37+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: today DACHARY: I do not plan on working this afternoon 2011-07-29 12:16:37+0000 <eve> Next: DACHARY: I do not plan on working this afternoon 2011-07-29 12:16:59+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, with that I think we're done 2011-07-29 12:17:14+0000 <arbrandes> Anybody got anything to add? 2011-07-29 12:17:22+0000 <antoviaque> nope 2011-07-29 12:17:59+0000 <arbrandes> eve_, end dailymeeting 2011-07-29 12:18:00+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2011-07-29 12:18:00+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/448754 2011-07-29 12:18:13+0000 <arbrandes> eve_, thank you 2011-07-29 12:18:13+0000 <eve> no problem, arbrandes 2011-07-29 12:18:16+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2011-07-29 12:18:29+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, cool 2011-07-29 12:18:38+0000 <arbrandes> thanks everybody :) 2011-07-29 12:19:27+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, should we put these dailies up on the wiki somewhere, or maybe on buddypress? 2011-07-29 12:19:30+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: tartarugafeliz: mtyaka: what do you think of using eve like this? it helps to get something easily copy-pastable to the buddypress, but what about its use? 2011-07-29 12:19:44+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I think its confusing 2011-07-29 12:19:46+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I love it 2011-07-29 12:19:48+0000 <arbrandes> hahaha 2011-07-29 12:19:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaahah 2011-07-29 12:19:57+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yup, I would copy/paste the top part up to "Present" to the buddypress 2011-07-29 12:20:17+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: what's confusing? 2011-07-29 12:20:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> It's confusing for me to have to say in the exact order and then I don't remember and then I spent more time trying to talk to her than actually thinking about what I'm doing or going to do 2011-07-29 12:21:03+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: with a link to the pastebin eve produces 2011-07-29 12:21:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but its ok I can do it 2011-07-29 12:21:21+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: my advice: prepare it in advance 2011-07-29 12:21:47+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: you open a text editor during the day, with three lines: 2011-07-29 12:21:55+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its ok 2011-07-29 12:21:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'll find a way don't worry 2011-07-29 12:22:02+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, awesome. Personally, I think this is great for communication, especially for when folks aren't present. 2011-07-29 12:22:19+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yup, that's the part I had in mind 2011-07-29 12:23:15+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: it's a syntax to get used to, but when you're not around you'll be able to know what others did without having to read the full chat log of the day 2011-07-29 12:23:22+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: does it compensates? : ) 2011-07-29 12:23:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I said its ok :) 2011-07-29 12:24:24+0000 <mtyaka> i like it, but the output would be prettier if i waited for tartarugafeliz to finish before i started pasting my things... sorry about that :) 2011-07-29 12:24:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm finished already 2011-07-29 12:24:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> go ahead :) 2011-07-29 12:24:48+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: :) np! 2011-07-29 12:24:54+0000 <mtyaka> hehe, so am I 2011-07-29 12:26:30+0000 <arbrandes> Just a tip, what I do is add a "spent time" block to the "my page" on redmine, and it makes it very easy to see what you did 2011-07-29 12:26:54+0000 <arbrandes> Of course, for this to work you actually have to remember to log spent time, heheheh 2011-07-29 12:27:40+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-07-29 12:27:59+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for the tip : ) 2011-07-29 12:28:08+0000 <arbrandes> np 2011-07-29 12:32:58+0000 <antoviaque> http://farsides.com/activity/p/1344/ 2011-07-29 13:37:31+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-29 13:56:51+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-29 15:17:05+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, added an hour to http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/241; tartarugafeliz's new card deck was missing at the time I closed it. Is that ok? I'll take it on after lunch. 2011-07-29 15:17:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> what is missing? 2011-07-29 15:18:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I didn't understand! 2011-07-29 15:18:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> was missing? :) 2011-07-29 15:18:55+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, hehehe, don't worry, nothing's missing :) It's just that at the time I finished #241, the card deck slices weren't ready, and I left to integrate them later. And later is now. :) 2011-07-29 15:19:42+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: don't remember honestly, I trust you : ) 2011-07-29 15:20:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahhh ok then! 2011-07-29 15:20:29+0000 <arbrandes> ok, thanks antoviaque 2011-07-29 15:20:40+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-29 15:21:07+0000 <arbrandes> bbl 2011-07-29 16:33:46+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-29 17:23:15+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-07-29 17:31:50+0000 <arbrandes> #194 ready for review, finally! Who would've thought these two little sentences meant so much work? " The cards are dealt face down, but turn face up as they appear on the author's hand. An information box appears once his hand is ready - a modal box - clicking on the ok button gets the box to disappear, but until he does, the user can't do anything else." 2011-07-29 17:33:01+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, yep - I hope someday soon, computers will be able to understand this on their own :D 2011-07-29 17:33:58+0000 <antoviaque> something that puts into perspective the capacities of the brain : ) 2011-07-29 17:34:57+0000 <antoviaque> (and of course retarded IEs don't help to make things any smarter ;p) 2011-07-29 17:36:49+0000 <arbrandes> Hahahahhaha, stupid IE... no AI will be able to get around THAT (huh, maybe in the end, IE will be our savior in the war against the machines, lol) 2011-07-29 17:37:35+0000 lulis (lulis) is now online 2011-07-29 17:43:02+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2011-07-29 17:44:14+0000 <antoviaque> congratulations btw : ) 2011-07-29 17:45:03+0000 <arbrandes> congrats to all of us, our first tough little story. :) 2011-07-29 17:45:54+0000 <arbrandes> Quick half-an-hour fix, already done ^ 2011-07-29 17:56:15+0000 <antoviaque> ok! 2011-07-29 18:11:12+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, just to sync up, you're on #274, right? You will need to position the card as (sort of) expected by the next state, which we already implemented in http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/221, correct? 2011-07-29 18:11:27+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-29 18:12:00+0000 <antoviaque> precisely 2011-07-29 18:12:02+0000 <arbrandes> I have a little doubt, thought 2011-07-29 18:12:09+0000 <arbrandes> According to fiinal.mp4 2011-07-29 18:12:14+0000 <antoviaque> actually it's done, I'm fighting with the tests : ) 2011-07-29 18:12:29+0000 <arbrandes> The centering takes place *after* the animation of the progress bar. 2011-07-29 18:12:39+0000 <arbrandes> Does this mean it should be implemented in the next state? 2011-07-29 18:12:59+0000 <arbrandes> (Does it matter? heheheh) 2011-07-29 18:13:38+0000 <antoviaque> actually I put it right before the animation of the progress bar 2011-07-29 18:14:13+0000 <antoviaque> this way it centers, the progress bar moves, and then the next state starts 2011-07-29 18:14:24+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, fine by me 2011-07-29 18:14:57+0000 <antoviaque> but it wouldn't change much, it would just be a matter of switching 2011-07-29 18:15:01+0000 <antoviaque> q.queue('chain', function(next) { 2011-07-29 18:15:01+0000 <antoviaque> $this.animate_center_picked_card(element, card, function() {next();}); 2011-07-29 18:15:01+0000 <antoviaque> }); 2011-07-29 18:15:01+0000 <antoviaque> q.queue('chain', function(next) { 2011-07-29 18:15:01+0000 <antoviaque> var dst_element = $('.cardstories_create .cardstories_write_sentence', root); 2011-07-29 18:15:01+0000 <antoviaque> $this.animate_progress_bar(element, dst_element, root, function() {next();}); 2011-07-29 18:15:01+0000 <antoviaque> }); 2011-07-29 18:15:37+0000 <antoviaque> in any case it is handier in the current state (and yes doesn't change anything for the players ;p ) 2011-07-29 18:16:08+0000 <arbrandes> Yeah, I actually like it better your way. :) 2011-07-29 18:16:22+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-29 18:16:53+0000 <arbrandes> I'm creating a task for myself to implement the confirmation popup; I don't remember if you already created one, and in any case I can't find it. 2011-07-29 18:17:27+0000 <antoviaque> nope : ) 2011-07-29 18:18:12+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka, tartarugafeliz and me created our own tasks hehe *proud* :p 2011-07-29 18:19:53+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, as well you should be! :P 2011-07-29 18:22:43+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, are you going to integrate with the work done on #221 (meaning, change the create_write_animate_sentence_start() to use the product of your stuff on #274), or should I create another task for that? 2011-07-29 18:23:43+0000 <arbrandes> *create_write_sentence_animate_start, I mean 2011-07-29 18:23:45+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: I did my animation to match the start values mtyaka had put, so I didn't had to adapt his work, : ) 2011-07-29 18:23:55+0000 <arbrandes> Ahhh, ok 2011-07-29 18:24:04+0000 <arbrandes> Well, good, then, less work :) 2011-07-29 18:25:02+0000 <antoviaque> there is a small flicker actually - but tartarugafeliz approved it :p 2011-07-29 18:25:21+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehehe, if she approved it, it's *done* 2011-07-29 18:25:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-07-29 18:25:26+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2011-07-29 18:25:29+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its really fine 2011-07-29 18:25:42+0000 <antoviaque> http://cardstories.antoviaque.org:8000/static/index.html?skin=create_pick_card 2011-07-29 18:26:21+0000 <arbrandes> if there's a flicker I can't see it. perfect 2011-07-29 18:26:42+0000 <antoviaque> sometimes it jumps 1-2 pixels 2011-07-29 19:12:31+0000 lulis (lulis) is now online 2011-07-29 19:15:41+0000 <lulis> hey guys :) 2011-07-29 19:30:07+0000 <arbrandes> The famous Lulis! Nice to meet you :) 2011-07-29 19:30:59+0000 <arbrandes> I've been following the discussion on the design group. Great ideas you folks are having 2011-07-29 19:31:37+0000 <arbrandes> Visual aids are essential to get people excited 2011-07-29 19:32:00+0000 <lulis> nice to meet you! 2011-07-29 19:33:12+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, tartarugafeliz, didn't you want to talk to lulis? 2011-07-29 19:34:56+0000 <lulis> i'll be around for a few hours, so just let me know if you want to talk :) 2011-07-29 19:38:24+0000 <arbrandes> They'll come around later, for sure :) 2011-07-29 20:05:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> oi luliiis!!! 2011-07-29 20:05:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> sorry!!!!! 2011-07-29 20:05:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its already 22 here we're eating :) 2011-07-29 20:05:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> wait, one min 2011-07-29 20:06:24+0000 <lulis> no problem! :) 2011-07-29 20:07:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> lulis first of all I want to say thank you for your amazing work! 2011-07-29 20:09:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I liked the 3 bullet points, they're great and easy to understand specially with the illustrations later 2011-07-29 20:09:35+0000 <lulis> glad you liked it! do you think it's enough for newcomers? 2011-07-29 20:10:01+0000 <lulis> do you have an idea of how to illustrate them? 2011-07-29 20:10:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I think its just missing an introduction like tcham tcham tchaaammmm PLAY WITH YOUR IMAGINATION! something like that 2011-07-29 20:10:22+0000 <lulis> yep 2011-07-29 20:10:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I was thinking about using the octopus and the other 2 characters that I used on the flyer 2011-07-29 20:10:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> this way we keep the identity 2011-07-29 20:10:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and we'll use them to show the final results too, so it will be perfect 2011-07-29 20:10:58+0000 <lulis> good idea! 2011-07-29 20:11:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> maybe change the none of them is the right one to everyone gets different cards 2011-07-29 20:11:31+0000 <tartarugafeliz> or something like that 2011-07-29 20:11:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and that's it! :) 2011-07-29 20:12:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> what do you guys think? 2011-07-29 20:12:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> someone else has something to add here? 2011-07-29 20:12:33+0000 <lulis> i just think it might get confusing... you could think that the card story could be one of those cards 2011-07-29 20:12:41+0000 <lulis> that happened to me when i played for the first few times 2011-07-29 20:12:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahhh that's why 2011-07-29 20:13:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but look at the beginning of 2- Without seeing Card Story⦠its implicit no? 2011-07-29 20:13:49+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now offline 2011-07-29 20:13:54+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and I'll make drawings of the cards too 2011-07-29 20:14:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> this part maybe I can put the octopus hiding his card and he'll have a huge crown to show he's the game master 2011-07-29 20:15:42+0000 <lulis> yep, i think we could cut off the part 'without seeing the card story' 2011-07-29 20:16:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok :) 2011-07-29 20:16:17+0000 <lulis> the octopus hiding his card is a great way to explain it 2011-07-29 20:16:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> cool! so I guess that's it? 2011-07-29 20:17:02+0000 <lulis> if you're happy with it, i'm happy! :) 2011-07-29 20:17:07+0000 <lulis> so everyone agrees? 2011-07-29 20:17:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> everyone is busy hahahaha 2011-07-29 20:17:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> friday night⦠you know... 2011-07-29 20:17:34+0000 <lulis> hahahaha 2011-07-29 20:17:53+0000 <lulis> and why are we talking in english? 2011-07-29 20:17:55+0000 <lulis> hahahahaha 2011-07-29 20:18:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> because this conversation is recorded on our buddypress 2011-07-29 20:18:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> so the people that lost this can read later 2011-07-29 20:18:25+0000 <lulis> just kidding :P 2011-07-29 20:18:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :P 2011-07-29 20:18:31+0000 <tartarugafeliz> now for the teaser trailer, how do you want to proceed? I know you're doing the comics as a contribution but how would you like to do? 2011-07-29 20:18:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you want to give us a quote? 2011-07-29 20:19:59+0000 <lulis> unfortunately, i don't know if i'll be able to help you with the trailer right now... i have a tight deadline for a book translation =/ 2011-07-29 20:20:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> when would you be available? 2011-07-29 20:20:40+0000 <lulis> only in september 2011-07-29 20:20:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz> uaaaau! 2011-07-29 20:20:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2011-07-29 20:20:58+0000 <lulis> hahahaha yes... big book 2011-07-29 20:21:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> that's cool, I'll talk to the guys and see what we do 2011-07-29 20:21:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz> thank you lulis! :) 2011-07-29 20:23:16+0000 <lulis> sorry about that! it would be a pleasure to see the concept when it's done, i just don't have enough time to help you with the development 2011-07-29 20:24:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> no worries, you helped a lot with the comics already! :) 2011-07-29 20:24:19+0000 <lulis> :) 2011-07-29 20:24:29+0000 <lulis> congratulations for the game, it's awesome! 2011-07-29 20:24:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2011-07-29 20:24:37+0000 <lulis> i can't wait to see it online 2011-07-29 20:25:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> me neither! 2011-07-29 20:25:10+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahah 2011-07-29 20:25:17+0000 <lulis> hahahaha 2011-07-29 20:26:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> well, I'll go back to my cheese! :D bisous lulis! 2011-07-29 20:28:00+0000 <lulis> bisous dé and everyone! 2011-07-29 21:21:44+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-29 21:57:27+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-29 21:57:30+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now offline 2011-07-29 22:38:31+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online
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