Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-08-24.


2011-08-24 00:41:20+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-08-24 07:05:55+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-08-24 07:54:26+0000 <dachary> blanchard: good morning sir
2011-08-24 09:53:50+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-08-24 09:56:34+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-08-24 09:59:15+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-08-24 10:02:14+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online
2011-08-24 10:02:18+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now offline
2011-08-24 10:40:08+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online
2011-08-24 10:53:43+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: I have an issue when i try to 
push on farsides.com/share => fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
2011-08-24 10:53:58+0000 <blanchard1> i don't know why but i guess it's the ssh 
key
2011-08-24 10:54:23+0000 <antoviaque> trying
2011-08-24 10:54:40+0000 <antoviaque> it seems to work...
2011-08-24 10:54:47+0000 <antoviaque> did you change anything?
2011-08-24 10:54:54+0000 <blanchard1> not that i know of
2011-08-24 10:54:58+0000 <blanchard1> I cloned though
2011-08-24 10:55:11+0000 <blanchard1> but i did not modify the ssh part
2011-08-24 10:57:17+0000 <antoviaque> your 4 keys are there, nothing seem wrong 
on the server side
2011-08-24 10:57:23+0000 <blanchard1> ok
2011-08-24 10:57:24+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-08-24 10:57:40+0000 <blanchard1> I'll check if there are other reasons for 
this error
2011-08-24 10:58:00+0000 <antoviaque> are you sure you have the right remote?
2011-08-24 10:59:11+0000 <blanchard1> in the config of git, i have :
2011-08-24 10:59:13+0000 <blanchard1> [remote "origin"]
2011-08-24 10:59:13+0000 <blanchard1>         fetch = 
+refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
2011-08-24 10:59:13+0000 <blanchard1>         url = 
git://git.farsides.com/share.git
2011-08-24 11:03:06+0000 <antoviaque> you need to replace with the git@... 
remote
2011-08-24 11:03:21+0000 <antoviaque> you push through ssh, not the git protocol
2011-08-24 11:11:19+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online
2011-08-24 11:41:55+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-08-24 11:54:22+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-08-24 12:00:21+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start dailymeeting
2011-08-24 12:00:21+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: 
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2011-08-24 12:00:28+0000 <antoviaque> hello all : )
2011-08-24 12:00:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> \o/
2011-08-24 12:01:14+0000 <antoviaque> ok I'll start : )
2011-08-24 12:01:21+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: yesterday Discussed tasks/stories, 
discussed preloading/caching of images, started experimenting with monitoring 
of season episodes (last episode of a season, release of new episodes, etc.)
2011-08-24 12:01:21+0000 <eve> Done: Discussed tasks/stories, discussed 
preloading/caching of images, started experimenting with monitoring of season 
episodes (last episode of a season, release of new episodes, etc.)
2011-08-24 12:01:22+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: today 121 with mtyaka, modifying 
the way episodes are handled server-side
2011-08-24 12:01:22+0000 <eve> Next: 121 with mtyaka, modifying the way 
episodes are handled server-side
2011-08-24 12:01:22+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: blockers none
2011-08-24 12:01:22+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2011-08-24 12:01:38+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: want to go next?
2011-08-24 12:01:49+0000 <mtyaka> moment...
2011-08-24 12:01:53+0000 <antoviaque> ok : )
2011-08-24 12:01:59+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: yesterday I fiddled with image 
preloading in IE some more. It seems more and more clear there is no workaround 
the IE limitation where the progress bar shows up every time the page reloads. 
I have one final idea I want to try out, but my hopes are not high.
2011-08-24 12:01:59+0000 <eve> Done: I fiddled with image preloading in IE some 
more. It seems more and more clear there is no workaround the IE limitation 
where the progress bar shows up every time the page reloads. I have one final 
idea I want to try out, but my hopes are not high
2011-08-24 12:02:25+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: today I would like to finish image 
preloading in review some items from arbrandes' queue
2011-08-24 12:02:25+0000 <eve> Next: I would like to finish image preloading in 
review some items from arbrandes' queue
2011-08-24 12:02:27+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: blockers none at the moment
2011-08-24 12:02:27+0000 <eve> Blockers: none at the moment
2011-08-24 12:02:35+0000 <antoviaque> thx!
2011-08-24 12:02:53+0000 <mtyaka> that should be *and* review some items...
2011-08-24 12:03:11+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: I get the feeling that you're 
spending a lot of time on this one at the end - how is it going compared to 
your estimate? does it remain fair?
2011-08-24 12:03:11+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-08-24 12:03:16+0000 <antoviaque> hi arbrandes : )
2011-08-24 12:03:26+0000 <arbrandes> sorry I'm late :(
2011-08-24 12:03:45+0000 <blanchard1> hi  !
2011-08-24 12:03:52+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: i'm up to 16 hours already :(
2011-08-24 12:03:57+0000 <mtyaka> hi arbrandes!
2011-08-24 12:04:02+0000 <arbrandes> hey blanchard1, mtyaka :)
2011-08-24 12:04:17+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: copy-pasted the beginning in 
private : )
2011-08-24 12:04:30+0000 <arbrandes> thanks :)
2011-08-24 12:04:40+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ok - want to revise the estimate?
2011-08-24 12:05:06+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: i do, thanks
2011-08-24 12:05:24+0000 <mtyaka> are we willing to accept that the progress 
bar is shown on every page reload in IE?
2011-08-24 12:05:39+0000 <mtyaka> unfortunately, i think we will have to 
2011-08-24 12:06:08+0000 <antoviaque> well it's not really optimal, but for now 
we can say it's ok, and come back to it later on when we start having IE users
2011-08-24 12:06:09+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, but will it reload *everything*, 
or is it just that the bar shows quickly?
2011-08-24 12:06:37+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: it doesn't actually reload the 
images
2011-08-24 12:07:16+0000 <mtyaka> it is shown relatively quickly, even though 
it still seems way too long for images that are already *cached* in the browser
2011-08-24 12:08:03+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, I'll take a look later on, maybe I 
can contribute
2011-08-24 12:08:36+0000 <antoviaque> maybe after the board is completed? how 
long does it take every time mtyaka?
2011-08-24 12:09:00+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: i'll be happy figure something out
2011-08-24 12:09:15+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, ok then :)
2011-08-24 12:09:25+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: oh, i don't know... the first 
time when the images are actually downloaded it takes longer - depending on the 
connection speed
2011-08-24 12:09:39+0000 <antoviaque> yep, what about the other times?
2011-08-24 12:09:46+0000 <mtyaka> but after that it takes less than a second, i 
think
2011-08-24 12:10:02+0000 <antoviaque> I'm just a bit worried that it takes you 
away, and possibly arbrandes, from the critical path
2011-08-24 12:10:21+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I'll let mtyaka handle it for 
now ;)
2011-08-24 12:10:41+0000 <arbrandes> eve_, yesterday : Bananas.
2011-08-24 12:10:41+0000 <eve> Done: : Bananas
2011-08-24 12:10:42+0000 <arbrandes> eve_, blockers : None!
2011-08-24 12:10:42+0000 <eve> Blockers: : None
2011-08-24 12:10:41+0000 <arbrandes> eve_, today : Create tasks, fix bugs 
(#340: copy-paste url, #383: FF display problems, #384: show author player_id), 
start on player view.
2011-08-24 12:10:42+0000 <eve> Next: : Create tasks, fix bugs (#340: copy-paste 
url, #383: FF display problems, #384: show author player_id), start on player 
view
2011-08-24 12:11:03+0000 <antoviaque> I'd go for leaving it as is for now, 
especially if it's only 1 second, and come back on it when we are in the polish 
phase - does that sound ok for you mtyaka and arbrandes?
2011-08-24 12:11:14+0000 <arbrandes> sure, fine by me!
2011-08-24 12:11:22+0000 * antoviaque eager to start the playtests :)
2011-08-24 12:11:46+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: i'm a very stubborn type of 
developer, i don't like to give up on things easily, but i think i agree with 
you here - especially because i am starting to feel there really is no way to 
work around this problem (unless we do preloading in a completely different way)
2011-08-24 12:12:11+0000 <mtyaka> that means i'll just clean up the code and 
write the tests, and stop trying to make it work well in IE
2011-08-24 12:12:28+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: definitely a quality :) and I 
know it's best to solve those issues when they arise
2011-08-24 12:12:58+0000 <antoviaque> but yep, seems the good thing to do here
2011-08-24 12:13:36+0000 <antoviaque> ok - let me know about your final 
estimate after the meeting
2011-08-24 12:13:41+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1 ?
2011-08-24 12:13:42+0000 <mtyaka> ok
2011-08-24 12:13:54+0000 <blanchard1> eve_: yesterday : updated cnc document, 
sent for feedback
2011-08-24 12:13:54+0000 <eve> Done: : updated cnc document, sent for feedback
2011-08-24 12:13:54+0000 <blanchard1> eve_: today : continue working on cnc 
doc. Learnt a tiny bit of indesign, thanks madame tartaruga !
2011-08-24 12:13:54+0000 <eve> Next: : continue working on cnc doc. Learnt a 
tiny bit of indesign, thanks madame tartaruga
2011-08-24 12:13:54+0000 <blanchard1> eve_: blockers : no
2011-08-24 12:13:54+0000 <eve> Blockers: : no
2011-08-24 12:14:05+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-08-24 12:14:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> heheheh you're welcome
2011-08-24 12:14:09+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: ?
2011-08-24 12:14:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve_: yesterday I worked on #386 (PNG 
sequence of cards flying from hand to dock (player pick card) #385 (Slice game 
master grey box and yellow player box)
2011-08-24 12:14:14+0000 <eve> Done: I worked on #386 (PNG sequence of cards 
flying from hand to dock (player pick card) #385 (Slice game master grey box 
and yellow player box)
2011-08-24 12:14:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve_: today I'll work on  #380 
(Design CNC document)
2011-08-24 12:14:14+0000 <eve> Next: I'll work on  #380 (Design CNC document)
2011-08-24 12:14:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve_: blockers none 
2011-08-24 12:14:14+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2011-08-24 12:14:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and I also want to tell you guys my 
news!
2011-08-24 12:14:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'll become a teacher for the french 
little kids!
2011-08-24 12:14:54+0000 <blanchard1> lucky them :)
2011-08-24 12:14:55+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and I'll make a course of 8 days for 
that
2011-08-24 12:14:55+0000 <mtyaka> congratulations!
2011-08-24 12:14:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D
2011-08-24 12:15:08+0000 <antoviaque> yey, well done tartarugafeliz : )
2011-08-24 12:15:24+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'll start my course on the 29 of 
august and it ends at the 5th of september
2011-08-24 12:15:29+0000 <tartarugafeliz> which can be a problem for us
2011-08-24 12:15:35+0000 <arbrandes> Awesome tartarugafeliz!  What'll you be 
teaching them?
2011-08-24 12:16:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> well, this first week is just 
general, but after I'll make an update to arts! :D
2011-08-24 12:16:15+0000 <antoviaque> will come in handy to find some little 
playtesters :p
2011-08-24 12:16:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and I'll make playtests with them 
ahhahaha
2011-08-24 12:16:31+0000 <tartarugafeliz> so, to organize everything
2011-08-24 12:16:32+0000 <arbrandes> You'll do great, congrats!  Good idea for 
the playtests, hehehehe ;)
2011-08-24 12:16:40+0000 <tartarugafeliz> thank you! :)
2011-08-24 12:17:12+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yesterday I finished the slicing and 
png sequences to make possible for you guys to work a lot without me blocking 
anymore
2011-08-24 12:17:30+0000 <arbrandes> thanks, tartarugafeliz, this clears all 
blockers for the next week :)
2011-08-24 12:17:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm not announcing THAT I'M LEAVING 
HAH?
2011-08-24 12:17:44+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its just a complementary skill for us!
2011-08-24 12:17:45+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaahha
2011-08-24 12:17:53+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: ahhahaaha
2011-08-24 12:18:01+0000 <antoviaque> you can't leave anyway
2011-08-24 12:18:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I know!
2011-08-24 12:18:09+0000 * antoviaque puts a chain on tartarugafeliz's feet
2011-08-24 12:18:11+0000 * blanchard1 feels a lot better now
2011-08-24 12:18:13+0000 <arbrandes> hahahahha, ok, ok, thanks for clearing 
that up
2011-08-24 12:18:24+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahah bunch of crazy people!
2011-08-24 12:18:44+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its a side job to get some money and 
also to be close to kids
2011-08-24 12:19:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> it will be one day here and other 
there, but my main attention is farsides of course
2011-08-24 12:19:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but it will be good for me for my 
creativity and to improve my french :)
2011-08-24 12:20:10+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: good news, congratz to 
you :)
2011-08-24 12:20:21+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2011-08-24 12:20:33+0000 <antoviaque> and yep if we have lots of kids playing, 
will come in very handy to have regular contact with them :)
2011-08-24 12:20:58+0000 <arbrandes> +1 for more kids, more creativity, more 
french :)
2011-08-24 12:21:00+0000 <arbrandes> congrats
2011-08-24 12:21:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D thank you!
2011-08-24 12:21:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> arbrandes: it will start next week, 
on monday 29
2011-08-24 12:21:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> do you think its best for me to 
organize with you and see what you'll need?
2011-08-24 12:21:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you and mtyaka
2011-08-24 12:21:41+0000 <antoviaque> yep, it will be a bit tricky to handle 
next week
2011-08-24 12:22:35+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: we can have a look at the 
stories this afternoon together, so that you can produce ahead
2011-08-24 12:22:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap, I think its a good idea
2011-08-24 12:22:54+0000 <antoviaque> but with the CNC document... hmmm, we'll 
have to look at this carefully
2011-08-24 12:23:04+0000 <arbrandes> It all depends on your watermelons, 
tartarugafeliz :)  If you can spare some time this week, you could go ahead and 
work on next week's dependencies.
2011-08-24 12:23:16+0000 <tartarugafeliz> the CNC document I can do when I come 
back from my course, I'll stay there till 16:00 only
2011-08-24 12:24:04+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: will be long days for you 
next week then :) but if you're ready to work after you go back from the course 
we can probably make it work yep
2011-08-24 12:24:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> most of my watermelons are for the 
CNC right now so
2011-08-24 12:24:16+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm ready! lets do it
2011-08-24 12:24:21+0000 <antoviaque> ok then : )
2011-08-24 12:24:31+0000 <antoviaque> anything else for this meeting?
2011-08-24 12:24:52+0000 <arbrandes> nope
2011-08-24 12:24:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm good
2011-08-24 12:25:20+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end dailymeeting
2011-08-24 12:25:20+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2011-08-24 12:25:20+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/463596
2011-08-24 12:26:11+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: two thing to see with you: 1) the 
estimate and 2) the 121 
2011-08-24 12:26:27+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: we'll need to look at 
stories, probably after the 121 with mtyaka
2011-08-24 12:26:51+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: for 2), is it still ok to have it 
in 30 minutes?
2011-08-24 12:26:52+0000 <mtyaka> i timed the progress bar in IE: it is more 
3-4 seconds, not only 1 :(
2011-08-24 12:26:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> no problem. I'm going to cook 
something now and we do that after? :D
2011-08-24 12:27:10+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm hungry
2011-08-24 12:27:15+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: it will take some time 
yep, probably around 4pm or so
2011-08-24 12:27:19+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: yes in 30 mins is ok
2011-08-24 12:27:55+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: it's a pain yep - we'll need to 
come back to it 
2011-08-24 12:28:09+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: about the estimate...
2011-08-24 12:28:18+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: also about the 121, remember to 
prepare a list of positive/negative points to discuss : )
2011-08-24 12:28:23+0000 <antoviaque> yup
2011-08-24 12:28:30+0000 <antoviaque> what's the ticket # again?
2011-08-24 12:28:32+0000 <mtyaka> so far i've spent 16 hrs, 45 minutes
2011-08-24 12:28:39+0000 <mtyaka> #367
2011-08-24 12:28:42+0000 <antoviaque> thx
2011-08-24 12:29:08+0000 <mtyaka> i think i need about 2 more hours for the 
tests
2011-08-24 12:29:43+0000 <antoviaque> ok, so 19 hours ?
2011-08-24 12:30:09+0000 <mtyaka> yes... 
2011-08-24 12:30:15+0000 <antoviaque> okidok
2011-08-24 12:30:17+0000 <mtyaka> well, that was a pretty bad estimate
2011-08-24 12:30:24+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, it happens : )
2011-08-24 12:30:45+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for holding it up!
2011-08-24 12:31:04+0000 <mtyaka> hehe, thanks for the patience!
2011-08-24 12:31:12+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-08-24 12:47:20+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now offline
2011-08-24 13:01:21+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: what's handier for you to talk? I 
don't remember what we used last time (bbb, skype, phone?)
2011-08-24 13:01:58+0000 <mtyaka> we used phone last time, but it wasn't too 
great. can we try skype?
2011-08-24 13:02:26+0000 <antoviaque> sure 
2011-08-24 13:02:32+0000 <antoviaque> bbb isn't working for you?
2011-08-24 13:02:44+0000 <mtyaka> we can try again, it didn't work last time
2011-08-24 13:03:00+0000 <antoviaque> no it's ok, let's try to keep it simple : 
)
2011-08-24 13:03:14+0000 <antoviaque> I'm logged in under "xantoviaque"
2011-08-24 13:03:37+0000 <mtyaka> ok. let me find you...
2011-08-24 13:55:22+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-08-24 14:22:00+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, regarding #340 (the copy-paste 
url thing), can you please try to set the new rewrite rule for static files in 
apache2.conf?
2011-08-24 14:22:30+0000 <arbrandes> An example is in the new apache2.conf 
(website/apache/apache2.conf)
2011-08-24 14:22:49+0000 <arbrandes> Or did you already do that?
2011-08-24 14:23:07+0000 <arbrandes> Or are you not using apache for the test 
server?
2011-08-24 14:26:15+0000 <arbrandes> also, 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/383 has been estimated
2011-08-24 14:49:31+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online
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2011-08-24 14:57:38+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: oh, my bad, I didn't see there 
was an update of that file, let me see
2011-08-24 14:57:58+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, no, *my* bad, I should've told 
you :)
2011-08-24 15:04:14+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, np : )
2011-08-24 15:04:23+0000 <antoviaque> and it works perfectly - thanks! : )
2011-08-24 15:04:56+0000 <antoviaque> updated test.cardstories.org & closed #340
2011-08-24 15:30:17+0000 <arbrandes> good news, thanks antoviaque  :)
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