Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-09-02.
2011-09-02 01:03:41+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now offline 2011-09-02 01:24:31+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2011-09-02 01:30:35+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-09-02 06:55:25+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-09-02 07:42:58+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-09-02 08:48:30+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-09-02 08:58:34+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-02 10:30:24+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2011-09-02 10:32:52+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: tartarugafeliz hi ! how is it going with cnc ? 2011-09-02 10:54:58+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-09-02 11:40:01+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2011-09-02 12:01:33+0000 <arbrandes> morning folks, antoviaque's at the printer's with tartarugafeliz (CNC stuff), so I'm scrum master today. :) 2011-09-02 12:01:37+0000 <arbrandes> eve, start dailymeeting 2011-09-02 12:01:37+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: yesterday|today|blockers <your report>" 2011-09-02 12:02:02+0000 <blanchard> hi arbrandes :) 2011-09-02 12:02:05+0000 <mtyaka> hello, master :) 2011-09-02 12:02:10+0000 <arbrandes> hey dudes, hehehehe 2011-09-02 12:02:18+0000 <blanchard> i'm about to leave unfortunately 2011-09-02 12:02:35+0000 <blanchard> I wish yo guys a good meeting ! 2011-09-02 12:02:40+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, ok, thanks :) 2011-09-02 12:02:44+0000 <mtyaka> thanks blanchard :) 2011-09-02 12:02:56+0000 <arbrandes> guess it's just you and me, mtyaka, heheheh 2011-09-02 12:02:58+0000 <arbrandes> wanna go first? 2011-09-02 12:03:04+0000 <mtyaka> sure :) 2011-09-02 12:03:07+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: yesterday I started working on #418 (implement initial state of vote_voter). 2011-09-02 12:03:09+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: today I would like to discuss/confirm some details about #418, so that I can finish it. 2011-09-02 12:03:11+0000 <mtyaka> eve_: blockers None. 2011-09-02 12:03:12+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now offline 2011-09-02 12:03:25+0000 <arbrandes> let me do mine, and then we'll discuss 2011-09-02 12:03:26+0000 <arbrandes> eve, yesterday : Spent most of the day dealing with bureaucracy, started work on #387 (dock cards moving to player hands). 2011-09-02 12:03:26+0000 <eve> Done: : Spent most of the day dealing with bureaucracy, started work on #387 (dock cards moving to player hands) 2011-09-02 12:03:27+0000 <arbrandes> eve, today : More bureaucracy (ack!), continue on #387. 2011-09-02 12:03:27+0000 <eve> Next: : More bureaucracy (ack!), continue on #387 2011-09-02 12:03:27+0000 <arbrandes> eve, blockers : #413 (png sequence for dock to hands) 2011-09-02 12:03:27+0000 <eve> Blockers: : #413 (png sequence for dock to hands) 2011-09-02 12:03:27+0000 <mtyaka> ah... eve_ is eve now... 2011-09-02 12:03:39+0000 <arbrandes> ah, yeah 2011-09-02 12:03:40+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday I started working on #418 (implement initial state of vote_voter). 2011-09-02 12:03:40+0000 <eve> Done: I started working on #418 (implement initial state of vote_voter) 2011-09-02 12:03:42+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today I would like to discuss/confirm some details about #418, so that I can finish it. 2011-09-02 12:03:42+0000 <eve> Next: I would like to discuss/confirm some details about #418, so that I can finish it 2011-09-02 12:03:43+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None. 2011-09-02 12:03:43+0000 <eve> Blockers: None 2011-09-02 12:03:47+0000 <arbrandes> hehehe, ok 2011-09-02 12:04:07+0000 <arbrandes> Is there something I can help with regarding #418? 2011-09-02 12:04:58+0000 <mtyaka> well, i noticed these three states in the code: vote_voter, vote_anonymous and vote_viewer 2011-09-02 12:05:08+0000 <mtyaka> i understand vote_voter 2011-09-02 12:05:24+0000 <mtyaka> and then one of the other two is when the player didn't pick a card in time 2011-09-02 12:05:40+0000 <arbrandes> yes, vote_anonymous if I'm not mistaken 2011-09-02 12:05:48+0000 <mtyaka> then he cannot actively participate in the game, so he becomes the viewer (or is it the anonymous) 2011-09-02 12:06:02+0000 <arbrandes> good question, though, what does vote_viewer do? 2011-09-02 12:06:05+0000 * arbrandes looking 2011-09-02 12:06:49+0000 <mtyaka> the story makes it sound like the player who didn't pick a card is anonymous.... but it seems it's called the viewer in current code, if i am not misinterpreting something 2011-09-02 12:07:44+0000 <mtyaka> vote_anonymous happens when there is "anonymous" in the query string 2011-09-02 12:08:28+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-02 12:09:13+0000 <arbrandes> According to test.js, vote_viewer should also be called when "self" is null, i.e., when the server doesn't "know" about this player. But the same thing's valid for vote_anonymous. 2011-09-02 12:12:06+0000 <mtyaka> This isn't really blocking me on #418 as that is only about vote_voter, but i did get confused about seeing both, vote_anonymous and vote_viewer in the code 2011-09-02 12:12:57+0000 <arbrandes> I'm still confused 2011-09-02 12:13:06+0000 <arbrandes> I don't think this was implemented yet 2011-09-02 12:13:21+0000 <arbrandes> It's probably just a skeleton 2011-09-02 12:13:34+0000 <arbrandes> Not even invitation_anonymous is called except by skin.js 2011-09-02 12:13:57+0000 <mtyaka> yeah... i cannot think of what the difference would be between a player who participated but didn't pick the card in time or somebody that didn't participate at all... 2011-09-02 12:14:55+0000 <mtyaka> I would think that at the voting point both would be treated the same (as anonymous viewers) 2011-09-02 12:15:16+0000 <mtyaka> (unless the game was private or something) 2011-09-02 12:16:28+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, if by any chance you're around (and available), do you remember what would the difference have been, if any, between vote_viewer() and vote_anonymous()? And by extension, where would the "anonymous" get parameter be set? 2011-09-02 12:17:22+0000 <dachary> no difference 2011-09-02 12:17:27+0000 <dachary> IIRC 2011-09-02 12:17:34+0000 <arbrandes> ok, cool :) 2011-09-02 12:17:39+0000 <arbrandes> thanks! 2011-09-02 12:17:43+0000 <mtyaka> thanks, dachary! 2011-09-02 12:18:55+0000 <dachary> I think it's because anonymous was implemented by a person different from me and that created a fork ;-) 2011-09-02 12:18:56+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: since this is settled, I'd just like to confirm one thing: in the vote_voter state, only those players are shown that picked a fake card in time, right? 2011-09-02 12:19:15+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, that makes sense :) 2011-09-02 12:19:33+0000 <mtyaka> that clear up our confusion 2011-09-02 12:19:42+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, yes, I believe so 2011-09-02 12:20:28+0000 <arbrandes> I actually implemented a snippet of code in vote_owner() that predicts they'll still be there, but they actually are not present in the game.players array. 2011-09-02 12:20:47+0000 <mtyaka> oh, they are not present at all? 2011-09-02 12:21:23+0000 <arbrandes> I think so, yes 2011-09-02 12:21:31+0000 <arbrandes> (meaning, yes, they're not present) 2011-09-02 12:21:37+0000 <mtyaka> that makes things even simpler then... and it makes sense 2011-09-02 12:22:14+0000 <mtyaka> thanks arbrandes, i think i have everything i need to finish #418 now. thanks for you help! 2011-09-02 12:22:16+0000 <arbrandes> And if the test mockups are right, game.self also returns null 2011-09-02 12:22:22+0000 <arbrandes> no problem! :) 2011-09-02 12:23:18+0000 <mtyaka> i wish you can be done with the bureaucracy soon :) 2011-09-02 12:25:28+0000 <arbrandes> ack, don't even get me started on it... I feel like I'm trying to move through molasses. 2011-09-02 12:25:39+0000 <arbrandes> But thanks :) 2011-09-02 13:14:06+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-02 13:44:03+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online 2011-09-02 14:11:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello everyone! 2011-09-02 14:12:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> wow, that was crazy! lets all send antoviaque good luck, cause he's going to need to get there on time 2011-09-02 14:21:32+0000 <arbrandes> good luck antoviaque ! 2011-09-02 14:21:33+0000 <arbrandes> ;) 2011-09-02 14:21:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-09-02 14:42:27+0000 <arbrandes> bbl, folks, more bureaucracy to fight 2011-09-02 14:58:20+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-09-02 15:10:09+0000 <antoviaque> hi all : ) 2011-09-02 15:10:32+0000 <antoviaque> ok, CNC file put on time, 3 minutes before they were closing ;p 2011-09-02 15:24:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> \o/!!!! 2011-09-02 15:25:24+0000 <mtyaka> well done, antoviaque! :) 2011-09-02 15:28:45+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: tartarugafeliz: thanks :) I think I scared a few bystanders with my scooter on the way ;p 2011-09-02 15:28:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahahaha 2011-09-02 15:28:58+0000 <mtyaka> hehe 2011-09-02 16:01:16+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-09-02 16:14:55+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: want to put an estimate on #418? 2011-09-02 16:15:04+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: sure - how much? 2011-09-02 16:15:18+0000 <mtyaka> is 3 hours okay? 2011-09-02 16:25:46+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: ^ 2011-09-02 16:25:59+0000 <antoviaque> let me see 2011-09-02 16:26:28+0000 <antoviaque> yup, all good : ) thanks! 2011-09-02 16:26:49+0000 <mtyaka> thank you :) 2011-09-02 17:17:04+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online 2011-09-02 17:42:14+0000 dachary1 (dachary1) is now online 2011-09-02 18:30:28+0000 <MCMic> Finally got a playable version of my new game 2011-09-02 18:30:35+0000 <MCMic> made a video : http://mcmic.haxx.es/index.php?page=geneticinvasion 2011-09-02 18:57:50+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-09-02 19:36:24+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-09-02 22:14:07+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-09-02 22:56:05+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/
