Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-09-07.


2011-09-07 00:51:18+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-09-07 01:58:11+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online
2011-09-07 02:03:37+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-09-07 02:42:56+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-09-07 07:58:54+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-09-07 08:26:41+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
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2011-09-07 09:57:59+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-09-07 10:12:35+0000 <mtyaka> hi antoviaque! can we put an estimate on #417?
2011-09-07 10:12:46+0000 <antoviaque> hi mtyaka : )
2011-09-07 10:12:54+0000 <antoviaque> sure thing - how much? (looking)
2011-09-07 10:14:16+0000 <mtyaka> i was thinking 7 hrs - there are a number of 
things that need to be handled
2011-09-07 10:16:20+0000 <mtyaka> one of the things that i don't know whether 
we thought about yet is how to do the transitions when not all the players 
picked cards
2011-09-07 10:16:46+0000 <mtyaka> in the vote_voter state the slots of the 
players that didn't pick cards simply disappear and other slots are rearranged 
on the board accordingly
2011-09-07 10:17:46+0000 <mtyaka> it will be hard to make the transition look 
good (and make it clear what is going on)
2011-09-07 10:18:32+0000 <antoviaque> I see yep - ok for me for the estimate
2011-09-07 10:18:43+0000 <antoviaque> good luck with this actually : )
2011-09-07 10:21:42+0000 <mtyaka> thanks :) i will try to do something not too 
awful, but later we might want to rethink... perhaps it would be better if the 
seats of the players that didn't pick a card in time would remain visible, but 
be marked somehow so that it would be obvious they aren't playing anymore - but 
for this we'd need to modify the server, it cannot be done on the client-side 
only (at least without awful hacks)
2011-09-07 10:23:41+0000 <antoviaque> yep, that would be the best option, 
definitely - but better avoiding awful hacks :)
2011-09-07 12:01:57+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start dailymeeting
2011-09-07 12:01:57+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: 
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2011-09-07 12:02:01+0000 <antoviaque> hey : )
2011-09-07 12:02:06+0000 <arbrandes> hey doods
2011-09-07 12:02:10+0000 <mtyaka> hello :)
2011-09-07 12:02:12+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2011-09-07 12:02:39+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard just called me, he's on his way 
back from the airport
2011-09-07 12:02:46+0000 <antoviaque> should be there this afternoon
2011-09-07 12:02:46+0000 <arbrandes> kewl
2011-09-07 12:02:59+0000 <antoviaque> who wants to start today? : )
2011-09-07 12:03:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> me!
2011-09-07 12:03:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: yesterday I finished #360 Draw 
the illustrations of results announcements
2011-09-07 12:03:09+0000 <eve> Done: I finished #360 Draw the illustrations of 
results announcements
2011-09-07 12:03:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: today I'll work on #379 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/379
2011-09-07 12:03:09+0000 <eve> Next: I'll work on #379 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/379
2011-09-07 12:03:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blockers none 
2011-09-07 12:03:09+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2011-09-07 12:03:36+0000 <arbrandes> The results are done?  Awesome, thanks 
tartarugafeliz 
2011-09-07 12:03:36+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: cool for #360 !
2011-09-07 12:03:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D
2011-09-07 12:03:58+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: want to go next?
2011-09-07 12:04:01+0000 <arbrandes> eve, yesterday : Continued on #387 (cards 
going back to hands), got stuck on positioning issue, think I got a handle on 
it, though.
2011-09-07 12:04:01+0000 <eve> Done: : Continued on #387 (cards going back to 
hands), got stuck on positioning issue, think I got a handle on it, though
2011-09-07 12:04:02+0000 <arbrandes> eve, today : Finish #387, and a few more 
stories, hopefully.
2011-09-07 12:04:02+0000 <eve> Next: : Finish #387, and a few more stories, 
hopefully
2011-09-07 12:04:02+0000 <arbrandes> eve, blockers : #413 (png sequence for 
dock to hands)
2011-09-07 12:04:02+0000 <eve> Blockers: : #413 (png sequence for dock to hands)
2011-09-07 12:04:19+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ?
2011-09-07 12:04:38+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday I finished #419 (implement 
initial state of vote_anonymous), and started working on #417 (transition from 
pick_wait -> vote_voter)
2011-09-07 12:04:38+0000 <eve> Done: I finished #419 (implement initial state 
of vote_anonymous), and started working on #417 (transition from pick_wait -> 
vote_voter)
2011-09-07 12:04:40+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today I want to finish #417 and perhaps 
take another task.
2011-09-07 12:04:40+0000 <eve> Next: I want to finish #417 and perhaps take 
another task
2011-09-07 12:04:41+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None.
2011-09-07 12:04:41+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-09-07 12:05:04+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Finished plebia spec 
document for lawyer, worked on add/display of posts as series (rather than 
individual episodes)
2011-09-07 12:05:04+0000 <eve> Done: Finished plebia spec document for lawyer, 
worked on add/display of posts as series (rather than individual episodes)
2011-09-07 12:05:05+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Work on Plebia BP & YC 
application with David, review of sprint, and if time allows work on display of 
episodes list
2011-09-07 12:05:05+0000 <eve> Next: Work on Plebia BP & YC application with 
David, review of sprint, and if time allows work on display of episodes list
2011-09-07 12:05:05+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None!
2011-09-07 12:05:05+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-09-07 12:05:35+0000 <arbrandes> Out of curiosity, what's a "plebia spec 
document"?
2011-09-07 12:05:53+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: it's a detailled description 
of how it works, functionally
2011-09-07 12:06:17+0000 <arbrandes> ah, so the lawyer can say what's legal and 
what's not
2011-09-07 12:06:23+0000 <antoviaque> olivier needs it to write the legal not 
that gives the legal framework in which we need to operate
2011-09-07 12:06:26+0000 <antoviaque> yup : )
2011-09-07 12:06:31+0000 <arbrandes> cool :)
2011-09-07 12:07:01+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, saw your comments on #417 above, I 
believe we can just make the players disappear for now
2011-09-07 12:07:08+0000 <arbrandes> IMHO, of course
2011-09-07 12:07:26+0000 <arbrandes> Changing server-side now would be sort of 
nuts, hehehe
2011-09-07 12:07:39+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: yup, that's what i did...
2011-09-07 12:08:03+0000 <arbrandes> kewl
2011-09-07 12:08:15+0000 <mtyaka> at first i thought i'd be able to do a nice 
little animation to show how the slots reposition, but that doesn't really 
work, because the slots have different hands, among other problems
2011-09-07 12:08:29+0000 <mtyaka> ... btw, i am having the weirdest problem 
with jquery position() right now
2011-09-07 12:08:54+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, hehehe, I'm having to fight it 
too, maybe I can help
2011-09-07 12:08:59+0000 <mtyaka> element.position().left is returning 0, but 
element.css('left') returns '3px', as i would expect...
2011-09-07 12:09:05+0000 <mtyaka> any ideas?
2011-09-07 12:09:42+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, you probably tried this, but for 
position() to work the element must be visible (in any browser)
2011-09-07 12:09:56+0000 <arbrandes> This includes the parent elements, etc
2011-09-07 12:10:46+0000 <arbrandes> I work around this by $.show()ing it, 
getting the position, and then $.hide()ing it right after, when necessary.
2011-09-07 12:11:18+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: ahh... the parent's probably 
aren't visible in test, i forgot about this, thanks for reminding me! will try 
if this solves the issue
2011-09-07 12:12:27+0000 <arbrandes> ahhh, yes, I hit this problem before, you 
gotta do a container().show and then a element().show, where container = 
"cardstories_invitation", por example, and element = "cardstories_pick" (or 
invitation_pick, don't remember)
2011-09-07 12:20:50+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: that was it, thanks again!
2011-09-07 12:21:09+0000 <arbrandes> np :)
2011-09-07 12:21:18+0000 <antoviaque> all good for today? : )
2011-09-07 12:22:15+0000 <mtyaka> all good :)
2011-09-07 12:22:35+0000 <antoviaque> thanks!
2011-09-07 12:22:40+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end dailymeeting
2011-09-07 12:22:41+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2011-09-07 12:22:41+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/471790
2011-09-07 12:35:57+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-09-07 12:47:10+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-09-07 13:17:09+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-09-07 15:11:30+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-09-07 16:08:30+0000 <antoviaque> uh mtyaka I didn't see we had your 121 
planned this afternoon - when would be a good time to replace for you?
2011-09-07 16:09:38+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: i forgot about that one, too... 
is tomorrow after the daily meeting ok?
2011-09-07 16:10:06+0000 <antoviaque> sure, perfect :)
2011-09-07 16:10:13+0000 <antoviaque> thanks, and sorry!
2011-09-07 16:10:27+0000 <mtyaka> no problem
2011-09-07 16:10:39+0000 <mtyaka> i'm off to bed now... see you tomorrow!
2011-09-07 16:16:19+0000 <antoviaque> see you : )
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