Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-10-11.


2011-10-11 07:24:18+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online
2011-10-11 08:30:22+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-10-11 08:35:37+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-10-11 08:36:26+0000 <antoviaque> hi
2011-10-11 08:36:41+0000 <dachary> hi
2011-10-11 08:42:04+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online
2011-10-11 08:42:16+0000 blanchard2 (blanchard2) is now online
2011-10-11 08:45:14+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-10-11 08:47:05+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online
2011-10-11 08:52:30+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-10-11 08:52:40+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: blanchard1: 
http://cardstories.org/?game_id=20
2011-10-11 08:54:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> http://cardstories.org/?game_id=22
2011-10-11 08:54:40+0000 <blanchard1> http://cardstories.org/?game_id=21
2011-10-11 09:04:08+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-10-11 10:33:50+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-10-11 11:21:12+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-10-11 11:51:08+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-10-11 11:58:27+0000 <antoviaque> heya!
2011-10-11 11:58:40+0000 <blanchard1> hi :)
2011-10-11 11:58:48+0000 <arbrandes> howdy doody
2011-10-11 11:59:32+0000 <antoviaque> how is it going? here the weather has 
suddenly becoming sh*t lately - gray all the time
2011-10-11 11:59:39+0000 * antoviaque want to be in brazil :p
2011-10-11 11:59:50+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: any news btw about the trip?
2011-10-11 11:59:54+0000 <arbrandes> Pffft, it's gray here too
2011-10-11 11:59:59+0000 <antoviaque> argh, damned
2011-10-11 12:00:02+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe
2011-10-11 12:00:10+0000 <antoviaque> you break my dreaaaams ;p
2011-10-11 12:00:23+0000 <arbrandes> lol, sorry ;)
2011-10-11 12:00:49+0000 <blanchard1> i wanted to bring the topic. I'm still 
providing them with the info they want, and waiting for an answer. But will we 
have the cash for this ? Not sure :/
2011-10-11 12:01:05+0000 <antoviaque> uh true
2011-10-11 12:01:17+0000 <antoviaque> on the other side it's a way to meet big 
potential clients no?
2011-10-11 12:01:34+0000 <blanchard1> it might, yes
2011-10-11 12:01:40+0000 <antoviaque> ok let's see after the meeting : )
2011-10-11 12:01:45+0000 <antoviaque> eve start dailymeeting
2011-10-11 12:01:46+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: 
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2011-10-11 12:01:57+0000 <blanchard1> let's wait for an anwser on their side, 
then we can see where we are cash wise
2011-10-11 12:02:01+0000 <antoviaque> yep
2011-10-11 12:02:27+0000 <antoviaque> ok I'll start : )
2011-10-11 12:02:31+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Reviewed alpha10, prepared 
stories for alpha11. Plebia - finished schema of server-side code refactoring, 
more corrections of the Plebia specs for Olivier, first draft of legal note 
received
2011-10-11 12:02:31+0000 <eve> Done: Reviewed alpha10, prepared stories for 
alpha11. Plebia - finished schema of server-side code refactoring, more 
corrections of the Plebia specs for Olivier, first draft of legal note received
2011-10-11 12:02:31+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Tomorrow morning integrate 
mtyaka's work to cardstories.org to allow us to playtest together the version 
(and hopefully give the go to bringing a few stumbleupon users to CS right 
after : ) ). Plebia - implementation of server-side refactoring.
2011-10-11 12:02:31+0000 <eve> Next: Tomorrow morning integrate mtyaka's work 
to cardstories.org to allow us to playtest together the version (and hopefully 
give the go to bringing a few stumbleupon users to CS right after : ) ). Plebia 
- implementation of server-side refactoring
2011-10-11 12:02:31+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None
2011-10-11 12:02:31+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-10-11 12:02:47+0000 <arbrandes> Busy bee :)
2011-10-11 12:03:09+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, I just blabla a lot about what I do 
;p
2011-10-11 12:03:16+0000 <blanchard1> :)
2011-10-11 12:03:35+0000 <antoviaque> who wants next?
2011-10-11 12:03:41+0000 <arbrandes> eve, yesterday nada
2011-10-11 12:03:41+0000 <eve> Done: nada
2011-10-11 12:03:42+0000 <arbrandes> eve, today Merge latest mtyaka (if ready), 
pending code reviews
2011-10-11 12:03:42+0000 <eve> Next: Merge latest mtyaka (if ready), pending 
code reviews
2011-10-11 12:03:42+0000 <arbrandes> eve, blockers zilch
2011-10-11 12:03:42+0000 <eve> Blockers: zilch
2011-10-11 12:04:05+0000 <mtyaka> hi!
2011-10-11 12:04:10+0000 <arbrandes> hey M.T.
2011-10-11 12:04:11+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday No time to work on CS :(
2011-10-11 12:04:11+0000 <eve> Done: No time to work on CS :(
2011-10-11 12:04:11+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2011-10-11 12:04:13+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today I will work on (and hopefully 
finish) #515 (Play sound when new game notification appears)
2011-10-11 12:04:13+0000 <eve> Next: I will work on (and hopefully finish) #515 
(Play sound when new game notification appears)
2011-10-11 12:04:14+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None
2011-10-11 12:04:14+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-10-11 12:04:22+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: zilch is the name of the guys 
who steal you from farsides right? :)
2011-10-11 12:04:29+0000 <arbrandes> loooooooooool
2011-10-11 12:04:31+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe
2011-10-11 12:04:32+0000 <blanchard1> :)
2011-10-11 12:04:42+0000 <blanchard1> eve, yesterday : submitted to Kima 
(business angels). Started admin for EoY closure.
2011-10-11 12:04:42+0000 <eve> Done: : submitted to Kima (business angels). 
Started admin for EoY closure
2011-10-11 12:04:42+0000 <blanchard1> eve, today : submit to Paris BA (business 
angels). continue working on EoY closure. Mails to web portals.
2011-10-11 12:04:42+0000 <eve> Next: : submit to Paris BA (business angels). 
continue working on EoY closure. Mails to web portals
2011-10-11 12:04:42+0000 <blanchard1> eve, blockers : discuss time of daily 
meeting
2011-10-11 12:04:42+0000 <eve> Blockers: : discuss time of daily meeting
2011-10-11 12:04:44+0000 <mtyaka> :)
2011-10-11 12:04:48+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: cool, finger crossed
2011-10-11 12:04:53+0000 <antoviaque> (and still no pressure :p )
2011-10-11 12:05:03+0000 <mtyaka> haha :)
2011-10-11 12:05:05+0000 <blanchard1> no pressure at aaaallllll :D
2011-10-11 12:05:06+0000 <antoviaque> ;p
2011-10-11 12:05:55+0000 <arbrandes> hahahaha, poor mtyaka
2011-10-11 12:05:57+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: how is it going with those 
frenchies? :)
2011-10-11 12:06:08+0000 <antoviaque> (the vcs)
2011-10-11 12:06:20+0000 <blanchard1> sending mails, lots of mails antoviaque
2011-10-11 12:06:40+0000 <blanchard1> waiting for a few days before activating 
contacts
2011-10-11 12:06:40+0000 <antoviaque> miam miam, spamming the planet
2011-10-11 12:06:49+0000 <blanchard1> first, providing information
2011-10-11 12:06:51+0000 <blanchard1> yep 
2011-10-11 12:07:00+0000 <blanchard1> so for the meeting time i'll explain
2011-10-11 12:07:52+0000 <blanchard1>  I often have lunch in the coming weeks 
(investors love having lunch), so not easy for me to be there at 2pm GMT+2. I 
was wondering if it was ok for you guys to change a little bit the time to be 
there
2011-10-11 12:08:06+0000 <arbrandes> I'm fine with it
2011-10-11 12:08:08+0000 <arbrandes> Just name the time
2011-10-11 12:08:10+0000 <blanchard1> if not no big deal, but maybe 30mn later 
would that be ok ?
2011-10-11 12:08:13+0000 <antoviaque> oh, changing habits, no no no no
2011-10-11 12:08:17+0000 <antoviaque> :D
2011-10-11 12:08:21+0000 <mtyaka> ok for me
2011-10-11 12:08:25+0000 <blanchard1> cool
2011-10-11 12:08:33+0000 <arbrandes> 30m later is fine
2011-10-11 12:08:36+0000 <blanchard1> so only antoviaque refuses
2011-10-11 12:08:40+0000 <antoviaque> damned
2011-10-11 12:08:42+0000 <blanchard1> :)
2011-10-11 12:08:56+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe, ok for me :)
2011-10-11 12:08:58+0000 <blanchard1> thank you guys for this majority :)
2011-10-11 12:09:08+0000 <arbrandes> heheheh, np ;)
2011-10-11 12:09:50+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: how is it going with 
tartaruga feliz & friends? : )
2011-10-11 12:10:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm working on the storyboard
2011-10-11 12:10:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2011-10-11 12:10:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I can publish what I finish today on 
the buddypress if you guys are interested
2011-10-11 12:10:31+0000 <antoviaque> definitely, would be cool to see
2011-10-11 12:10:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its in portuguese tough
2011-10-11 12:10:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> sorry about that
2011-10-11 12:10:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok then, I'll publish later
2011-10-11 12:10:51+0000 <antoviaque> well, for once it's not in french, that's 
fair :p
2011-10-11 12:10:59+0000 <blanchard1> :)
2011-10-11 12:11:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I guess so
2011-10-11 12:11:11+0000 <arbrandes> I'll love to take a look
2011-10-11 12:11:15+0000 <blanchard1> me too
2011-10-11 12:11:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2011-10-11 12:11:40+0000 <antoviaque> ok, something else for today? blanchard1 
you had time to think about yesterday's talk?
2011-10-11 12:11:50+0000 <blanchard1> contracting, yep
2011-10-11 12:12:40+0000 <blanchard1> in a nutshell : tough to start with big 
contract (won't get results very soon), but ok to try for small one that would 
at least fund the work of the team and maybe more. 
2011-10-11 12:12:57+0000 <blanchard1> Advantage of small one : we'll quickly 
know if it works out
2011-10-11 12:13:14+0000 <blanchard1> but for me, as said, very limited time, 
so would need quite some help
2011-10-11 12:13:20+0000 <blanchard1> what do you think guys ?
2011-10-11 12:13:49+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good to me - what kind of help 
would you need?
2011-10-11 12:14:35+0000 <blanchard1> I can help with the client side, I would 
be happy if you could take the lead on all internal stuff - coordination, tasks 
follow-up, etc
2011-10-11 12:14:36+0000 <antoviaque> (btw by small tsks, you mean which kind 
of price/clients?)
2011-10-11 12:14:47+0000 <blanchard1> 5-15k ?
2011-10-11 12:16:01+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: internal stuff - you mean 
like the product management I do for the sprints? you describe stories and then 
I follow completion & coordinate when needed?
2011-10-11 12:17:01+0000 <blanchard1> basically yes. Though i might need some 
help also on the writing of stories. I really don't know yet how I'm going to 
deal with this + funding + finding money for me, so we'll need to be flexible
2011-10-11 12:17:10+0000 <blanchard1> I'll do my best though :p
2011-10-11 12:18:09+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: i know you were not really in 
favor of small deals. What da ya think ?
2011-10-11 12:18:16+0000 * arbrandes thinking
2011-10-11 12:18:32+0000 <arbrandes> You guys think that Felix is gonna come 
through?
2011-10-11 12:18:42+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: good question :)
2011-10-11 12:18:43+0000 <arbrandes> Because if he does, we'll have a conflict
2011-10-11 12:18:52+0000 <blanchard1> why is that ?
2011-10-11 12:19:03+0000 <arbrandes> Either work on CS, or work on a contract
2011-10-11 12:19:08+0000 <arbrandes> That conflict ^
2011-10-11 12:19:38+0000 <blanchard1> well if we have money (if Felix comes 
first), we work on CS no ? :)
2011-10-11 12:19:55+0000 <blanchard1> if we have the contract and then Felix, 
we finish the contract and go back to cS ?
2011-10-11 12:19:55+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, that answers my question: whatever 
comes first
2011-10-11 12:20:08+0000 <blanchard1> i guess so yep
2011-10-11 12:20:43+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: for project management, not 
my favorite part of the day, but if it help keeping the team together, ok for 
me - it's pretty light anyway, given how the team works
2011-10-11 12:20:51+0000 <blanchard1> thx antoviaque
2011-10-11 12:21:05+0000 <blanchard1> for pre-sale also, I need to investigate 
to see how we could share
2011-10-11 12:21:19+0000 <blanchard1> for instance creating a portfolio
2011-10-11 12:21:35+0000 <blanchard1> I'll need support
2011-10-11 12:21:37+0000 <arbrandes> I guess from my point of view, it depends 
on what kind of contract we'll be landing - there are plenty of 10k contracts 
out there that are really 100k contracts in disguise (but without the money)
2011-10-11 12:21:48+0000 <arbrandes> just a heads up so we discuss the actual 
work beforehand :)
2011-10-11 12:21:57+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: absolutely right
2011-10-11 12:21:58+0000 <antoviaque> true - tartarugafeliz would have work 
there, and she's working on her project for still 1.5 week - what do you think 
tartarugafeliz?
2011-10-11 12:22:21+0000 <blanchard1> on that part arbrandes i'll need help 
from you guys to investigate the content and make sure we do have a margin
2011-10-11 12:22:37+0000 <blanchard1> works for you ?
2011-10-11 12:23:04+0000 <arbrandes> yup, that works for me :)
2011-10-11 12:23:17+0000 <blanchard1> cool
2011-10-11 12:23:27+0000 <antoviaque> it's a test anyway - if we can only land 
contracts that are too big for the price, we don't take them
2011-10-11 12:23:29+0000 <tartarugafeliz> what I don't understand is what are 
we going to show
2011-10-11 12:23:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> on this portfolio
2011-10-11 12:23:46+0000 <arbrandes> What I imagine we'd done is estimate the 
bananas for a contract, and see how much it would cost to develop
2011-10-11 12:23:51+0000 <blanchard1> octopuses tartarugafeliz
2011-10-11 12:23:53+0000 <arbrandes> *we'd do
2011-10-11 12:23:57+0000 <blanchard1> very pretty octopuses
2011-10-11 12:24:01+0000 <blanchard1> and chickens
2011-10-11 12:24:01+0000 <arbrandes> hahahhaha
2011-10-11 12:24:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hehehe
2011-10-11 12:24:09+0000 <blanchard1> :)
2011-10-11 12:24:10+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: good idea, we could actually 
try to sell in bananas :p
2011-10-11 12:24:20+0000 <arbrandes> Yup, that's what they're for ;)
2011-10-11 12:24:21+0000 <antoviaque> "Quote for 100 bananas"
2011-10-11 12:24:25+0000 <arbrandes> lololol
2011-10-11 12:24:30+0000 <blanchard1> I'll think about it tartarugafeliz but 
basically what we've done (CS !)
2011-10-11 12:24:55+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: tartarugafeliz: we could also 
add our own personal references
2011-10-11 12:25:06+0000 <antoviaque> things we've worked on in the past
2011-10-11 12:25:08+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: very true
2011-10-11 12:25:12+0000 <tartarugafeliz> then we're becoming an agency?
2011-10-11 12:25:31+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: yes, project food is 
pretty much an agency, yep
2011-10-11 12:25:39+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-10-11 12:25:51+0000 <antoviaque> fyi, that's how dofus started
2011-10-11 12:26:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeah club penguin too
2011-10-11 12:26:04+0000 <antoviaque> and club penguin, for that matter :)
2011-10-11 12:26:04+0000 <blanchard1> good reference :p
2011-10-11 12:26:06+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe
2011-10-11 12:26:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> are you guys sure you want this?
2011-10-11 12:26:36+0000 <antoviaque> not ideal I agree, but at least it's a 
plan B
2011-10-11 12:26:48+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: the idea is to buy time
2011-10-11 12:27:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I understand
2011-10-11 12:27:10+0000 <antoviaque> to get funding, to talk to investors, to 
build CS' community...
2011-10-11 12:27:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but in my head this can become a trap 
too
2011-10-11 12:27:18+0000 <blanchard1> tartarugafeliz: if there's another way, 
i'd love it, but i don't see one. Unless good surprise with investors
2011-10-11 12:27:39+0000 <antoviaque> we have many many options, but if we stop 
working together I'm sure we'll have a hard time doing any of this
2011-10-11 12:28:35+0000 <arbrandes> I sympathize with tartarugafeliz's 
feelings on this
2011-10-11 12:28:41+0000 <arbrandes> It's far from ideal
2011-10-11 12:28:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> do I need to give an answer right now 
about this? I need to think more about it
2011-10-11 12:28:53+0000 <arbrandes> But I agree that there aren't many other 
options for Farsides
2011-10-11 12:29:02+0000 <antoviaque> the best option would be that everyone 
would be able to work full time for free, but the issue is that some people 
can't do that
2011-10-11 12:29:15+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I'd say MOST people can't do 
that, heheheh
2011-10-11 12:29:23+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe, ok ok : )
2011-10-11 12:29:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> do you guys would actually like to 
work this way?
2011-10-11 12:30:06+0000 <arbrandes> "Like" is relative
2011-10-11 12:30:14+0000 <arbrandes> I loved working for Farsides these last 3 
months
2011-10-11 12:30:23+0000 <arbrandes> But I hate working in an office
2011-10-11 12:30:34+0000 <arbrandes> So I like any work that I can do from home
2011-10-11 12:30:35+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: it's only a backup plan, 
first - the main goal is still to get fundraising
2011-10-11 12:30:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok I got it
2011-10-11 12:30:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but I need more time to think about 
this
2011-10-11 12:30:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> is that ok?
2011-10-11 12:31:08+0000 <MCMic> What are you talking about? I missed the 
beginning, it's very confusing.
2011-10-11 12:31:10+0000 <tartarugafeliz> right now I have my head full of 
turtles and croissants
2011-10-11 12:31:15+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: hello : )
2011-10-11 12:31:21+0000 <MCMic> hi ^^
2011-10-11 12:31:22+0000 <arbrandes> Of course, I think we're all still 
"thinking"
2011-10-11 12:31:28+0000 <blanchard1> hello MCMic
2011-10-11 12:31:51+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: in a nutshell we're "between two 
rounds" of funding, so we need to find ways to earn money to eat in the 
meantime : )
2011-10-11 12:32:45+0000 <antoviaque> and we're looking at the option to do 
work for hire in the meantime, as a team
2011-10-11 12:32:56+0000 <MCMic> Oh, ok
2011-10-11 12:33:13+0000 <MCMic> The backup plan is to be mercenary then? :D
2011-10-11 12:33:17+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: understood, take the time 
to think about it :)
2011-10-11 12:33:30+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: yep, so far that's our best plan B 
: )
2011-10-11 12:33:42+0000 <blanchard1> MCMic: you don't have a few 10s of k€ 
to invest in a very creative and great company by any chance ? :p
2011-10-11 12:33:53+0000 <antoviaque> yep, it's a very good investment :p
2011-10-11 12:35:10+0000 <MCMic> No xD
2011-10-11 12:35:19+0000 <blanchard1> hehe, worth a try :)
2011-10-11 12:35:25+0000 <antoviaque> ok, so tartarugafeliz you think we can 
discuss it again tomorrow? Does that leave you enough time?
2011-10-11 12:35:28+0000 <antoviaque>  blanchard1 what would you need to get 
this started? 
2011-10-11 12:35:42+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: ;)
2011-10-11 12:35:52+0000 <blanchard1> I need to explore with you the short list 
of offers to see which make more sense
2011-10-11 12:36:20+0000 <blanchard1> and on my side, I need to prepare the 
structure of document (kind of portfolio + prices, etc)
2011-10-11 12:36:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap tomorrow is good, I'll try to 
think of ways to do this backup plan too… in a way that we don't completely 
forget that we're a videogame free software studio…
2011-10-11 12:37:01+0000 <blanchard1> tartarugafeliz: cool let's do that 
tomorrow. I don't wont to forget that either by the way :)
2011-10-11 12:37:04+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: please do, I would be 
glad to find a better idea
2011-10-11 12:37:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> there is a list of offers? you mean, 
projects?
2011-10-11 12:37:26+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: I've posted some on the 
buddypress - there are some stuff with games, etc. that we can try
2011-10-11 12:37:28+0000 <blanchard1> yes, antoviaque posted some on buddypress
2011-10-11 12:37:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok cool
2011-10-11 12:37:58+0000 <MCMic> And would you focus on Video Games dev offers? 
Or Free software dev offers? (or Russian Website dev offers :D ?)
2011-10-11 12:38:04+0000 <antoviaque> the idea yesterday was to find "any jobs, 
by in priority those close to what we want to do or are good in"
2011-10-11 12:38:23+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: free software is best of course :)
2011-10-11 12:38:37+0000 <blanchard1> MCMic: i'd like to do some free software 
russian games
2011-10-11 12:38:44+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah
2011-10-11 12:39:00+0000 <MCMic> ^^
2011-10-11 12:39:30+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: any advices on this? would be most 
welcome :)
2011-10-11 12:39:42+0000 <blanchard1> note on the side : I'm still with the no 
money issue over my head. So this commitment of mine is fine for now. But in 3 
weeks, if i still have no money we'll need to rediscuss
2011-10-11 12:39:51+0000 <MCMic> Have you guys heard of elveos? (I don't think 
it can be of any help for you thought, it's not even active at the moment it 
seems)
2011-10-11 12:40:07+0000 <blanchard1> if i need to find a job, then I can 
handle admin and fund raising but contracting i'm not sure
2011-10-11 12:40:27+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: yep, somebody talked to me about 
it recently https://elveos.org/en/
2011-10-11 12:40:30+0000 <MCMic> (but if free software users started using 
this, it could be a good place for free software dev offers/request)
2011-10-11 12:41:08+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: we want to have something like 
that for our games yep
2011-10-11 12:41:18+0000 <MCMic> It's basically the same idea cofundos tried 
before
2011-10-11 12:41:26+0000 <antoviaque> the issue with that one is that they 
don't seem to have an audience yet, chicken and egg issue
2011-10-11 12:41:34+0000 <MCMic> But elveos is younger and more dynamic
2011-10-11 12:41:47+0000 <MCMic> and elveos is free software, so you can host 
you own platform
2011-10-11 12:42:45+0000 <antoviaque> yep, will be good to have when we have an 
audience, to finance individual feature requests
2011-10-11 12:42:47+0000 <MCMic> Yeah, I'm trying elveos with a game project 
I'm working on, but we first need to have a release that works fine on 
GNU/Linux and Windows before to make any advertisement on the web
2011-10-11 12:43:13+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: to start with crowdfunding we'd 
want to do a campaign for CS on kickstarter - they aren't free software but 
they have lots of donators
2011-10-11 12:43:22+0000 <MCMic> But I think people that already have an 
audience like humble bundle guys could easily switch to a system close to 
elveos one
2011-10-11 12:43:31+0000 <MCMic> What is CS?
2011-10-11 12:43:36+0000 <MCMic> Card Stories
2011-10-11 12:43:37+0000 <MCMic> ok
2011-10-11 12:43:50+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: noted - if you want I can 
give you a bag of rice that day to buy your vote :)
2011-10-11 12:43:51+0000 <MCMic> (it's still Counter Strike in my head :-/)
2011-10-11 12:43:58+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-10-11 12:44:09+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: hehe :)
2011-10-11 12:44:32+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: they could yep - blanchard1 got 
any contact at HumbleBundle?
2011-10-11 12:44:34+0000 <MCMic> yeah kickstarter have an audience. But they 
not really good on a ethic point of view from what I've heard
2011-10-11 12:44:55+0000 <antoviaque> oh, what do they do wrong?
2011-10-11 12:44:56+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: nope i looked for on on 
linkedin but could not find connection
2011-10-11 12:45:18+0000 <MCMic> antoviaque: I'd love an Humble Free Bundle (or 
Humble Open Source Bundle), and I really think it would work
2011-10-11 12:46:14+0000 <MCMic> antoviaque: hum, I don't remember exactly, 
something like need an amazon account, only accepting paypal donations (with 
the paypal-wikileaks stuff, free software people don't like them), that kind of 
stuff if I recall correctly
2011-10-11 12:46:20+0000 <antoviaque> Agreed, I'd love to see that happening
2011-10-11 12:46:40+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: ah, yep, they use amazon payments
2011-10-11 12:46:59+0000 <antoviaque> and amazon kicked wikileaks 
2011-10-11 12:47:19+0000 <MCMic> That may be the reason I heard negative 
comment about them.
2011-10-11 12:47:39+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: arbrandes: mtyaka: anything 
else for today?
2011-10-11 12:47:50+0000 <MCMic> But in the same time, if I recall correctly 
the documentary about the pirate bay was paid this way
2011-10-11 12:48:01+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: probably yep - not directly their 
fault though, it's hard to switch provider once you're setup with it
2011-10-11 12:48:07+0000 <mtyaka> nothing from me
2011-10-11 12:48:12+0000 <blanchard1> i'm good
2011-10-11 12:48:47+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: and the freedombox was crowdfunded 
this way too ;p
2011-10-11 12:48:54+0000 <antoviaque> ok!
2011-10-11 12:48:58+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end dailymeeting
2011-10-11 12:49:00+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2011-10-11 12:49:00+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/490991
2011-10-11 12:53:52+0000 <arbrandes> bbl, folks
2011-10-11 13:04:00+0000 <MCMic> antoviaque: 
http://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35&sid=6788d777701e15525f5db219b3b51595&p=21294#p21294
2011-10-11 13:04:30+0000 <MCMic> antoviaque: this guy just happen to speak 
about elveos, cofundos and the idea of a FOSS bundle.
2011-10-11 13:05:06+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: Oh, thanks a lot - will definitely 
reply, would be interesting if it happened
2011-10-11 13:05:30+0000 <MCMic> "The games should obviously be complete, 
finished games." -> When we see what Humble indie bundle guys had done, I'd say 
they did not put that much criteria for games xD
2011-10-11 13:08:23+0000 <antoviaque> yep
2011-10-11 14:48:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> guys I published the storyboard on 
the misc on our site, 
http://farsides.com/wp-content/uploads/group-documents/12/1318344215-storyboard.pdf
2011-10-11 14:48:44+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'll have to leave now for a meeting, 
see you later!
2011-10-11 14:51:40+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now offline
2011-10-11 15:18:50+0000 <antoviaque> MCMic: posted after you fyi ;p 
http://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35&p=21320#p21320
2011-10-11 15:36:12+0000 <blanchard1> bbl
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2011-10-11 18:00:31+0000 <mtyaka> hi antoviaque!
2011-10-11 18:00:38+0000 <antoviaque> hi : )
2011-10-11 18:00:43+0000 <mtyaka> i was looking through my tasks on redmine
2011-10-11 18:00:54+0000 <mtyaka> preparing an invoice for blanchard 
2011-10-11 18:01:04+0000 <blanchard> hehehe
2011-10-11 18:01:13+0000 <blanchard> so nice of you mtyaka :)
2011-10-11 18:01:14+0000 <mtyaka> there's three tasks i'd like you to take a 
look at...
2011-10-11 18:01:18+0000 <antoviaque> sure
2011-10-11 18:01:26+0000 <mtyaka> haha, sorry :)
2011-10-11 18:01:48+0000 <mtyaka> #420, #401, and #421
2011-10-11 18:02:13+0000 <mtyaka> for the first one i am not sure if we ever 
agreed on the spent time and i just forgot to put it in, or we never discussed 
it at all
2011-10-11 18:02:21+0000 <mtyaka> (i spent 0.5 hours on it)
2011-10-11 18:02:39+0000 <mtyaka> the other two are the code review tasks for 
august and september
2011-10-11 18:02:58+0000 <mtyaka> we already agreed on the estimates for them, 
but they are not marked as merged yet
2011-10-11 18:04:59+0000 <mtyaka> i promise to work on #515 after this :)
2011-10-11 18:06:05+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-10-11 18:07:13+0000 * antoviaque looking
2011-10-11 18:08:21+0000 <antoviaque> good incentive for me to look into it :p
2011-10-11 18:09:45+0000 <mtyaka> well... i'm just offloading some pressure 
onto you :)
2011-10-11 18:10:13+0000 <antoviaque> ahaha, fair :D
2011-10-11 18:10:49+0000 <antoviaque> All good for me, and I've marked #401 and 
#421 as merged
2011-10-11 18:11:00+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: thanks for the work, btw : )
2011-10-11 18:11:19+0000 <mtyaka> thanks for taking care of the issues! :)
2011-10-11 18:12:32+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-10-11 18:12:44+0000 <antoviaque> ok, back to home, bbl
2011-10-11 18:30:18+0000 <mtyaka> blanchard: are you still around?
2011-10-11 18:30:24+0000 <blanchard> yep
2011-10-11 18:32:37+0000 <mtyaka> what date should i treat as the deciding date 
as to what month the task was done in? i'll prepare an invoice for all the 
tasks done up to an including september... but if a task was marked "ready for 
review" in september, and then "merged" in october.... should that task go to 
the september or october invoice?
2011-10-11 18:34:22+0000 <blanchard> normally, we should only include merged 
tasks. So if a task is merged in october, it should be part of october invoice. 
But that's the theory, if you want to do some exceptions with that i'm fine 
with it mtyaka
2011-10-11 18:34:32+0000 <blanchard> i'll brb mtyaka 10mn
2011-10-11 18:35:10+0000 <mtyaka> ok, understood, no need to be making 
exceptions
2011-10-11 18:35:12+0000 <mtyaka> thanks!
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