Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-10-13.


2011-10-13 05:52:36+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-10-13 07:50:45+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-10-13 11:11:42+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-10-13 11:22:05+0000 antoviaque1 (antoviaque1) is now online
2011-10-13 11:40:03+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-10-13 11:40:07+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-10-13 11:44:35+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-10-13 11:48:24+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-10-13 11:58:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> if you guys want to play, there are 
people on the game! http://cardstories.org/?game_id=16
2011-10-13 12:31:21+0000 <antoviaque1> howdy fellows! :)
2011-10-13 12:31:29+0000 <antoviaque1> eve: start dailymeeting
2011-10-13 12:31:29+0000 <eve> antoviaque1: Sorry, meeting in progress.
2011-10-13 12:31:35+0000 <antoviaque1> eve end dailymeeting
2011-10-13 12:31:35+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2011-10-13 12:31:35+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/491956
2011-10-13 12:31:40+0000 <antoviaque1> eve start dailymeeting
2011-10-13 12:31:40+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: 
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2011-10-13 12:31:51+0000 * antoviaque1 proud that he remembered the time change 
today :p
2011-10-13 12:31:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D
2011-10-13 12:32:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaha there's someone really 
spending time on CS
2011-10-13 12:32:11+0000 <antoviaque1> there is a kid who loves the game in CS 
right now :)
2011-10-13 12:32:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap ahahha
2011-10-13 12:32:14+0000 <antoviaque1> hehehe
2011-10-13 12:33:14+0000 <antoviaque1> mtyaka: arbrandes: blanchard: around?
2011-10-13 12:33:23+0000 <mtyaka> hey :)
2011-10-13 12:33:49+0000 <mtyaka> we've already got active players? neat :)
2011-10-13 12:33:52+0000 <arbrandes> eve, yesterday fixed a couple of sound 
bugs related to #515, discussed the conversion problem
2011-10-13 12:33:52+0000 <eve> Done: fixed a couple of sound bugs related to 
#515, discussed the conversion problem
2011-10-13 12:33:52+0000 <arbrandes> eve, today more conversion discusson, I 
suppose ;)
2011-10-13 12:33:52+0000 <eve> Next: more conversion discusson, I suppose ;)
2011-10-13 12:33:52+0000 <arbrandes> eve, blockers z�ro
2011-10-13 12:33:52+0000 <eve> Blockers: z�ro
2011-10-13 12:34:04+0000 <arbrandes> (lol, eve's not unicode)
2011-10-13 12:34:09+0000 <arbrandes> (or I'm not)
2011-10-13 12:34:12+0000 <mtyaka> hehe
2011-10-13 12:35:01+0000 <antoviaque1> mtyaka: yep - not a lot, but 2-3 sticked 
around a little and played a little :)
2011-10-13 12:35:32+0000 <antoviaque1> hehe arbrandes :)
2011-10-13 12:35:45+0000 <antoviaque1> eve: yesterday Got cardstories.org to 
work (thanks mtyaka for the work, and arbrandes for the last minute fixes!), 
started small influx of players (280 visits, 10 user accounts created), played 
with newcomers, worked a bit on server-side refactoring in Plebia
2011-10-13 12:35:45+0000 <eve> Done: Got cardstories.org to work (thanks mtyaka 
for the work, and arbrandes for the last minute fixes!), started small influx 
of players (280 visits, 10 user accounts created), played with newcomers, 
worked a bit on server-side refactoring in Plebia
2011-10-13 12:35:45+0000 <antoviaque1> eve: today Play some more with newcomers 
on Card Stories, work on Plebia
2011-10-13 12:35:45+0000 <eve> Next: Play some more with newcomers on Card 
Stories, work on Plebia
2011-10-13 12:35:45+0000 <antoviaque1> eve: blockers 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/519 happens quite a lot in-game
2011-10-13 12:35:45+0000 <eve> Blockers: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/519 
happens quite a lot in-game
2011-10-13 12:36:31+0000 <antoviaque1> And I must add it's really cool to play 
with "real" players coming from nowhere :p
2011-10-13 12:37:53+0000 <antoviaque1> mtyaka: want to go next?
2011-10-13 12:38:54+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday Not much, except discussed the 
option of optional accounts (if that makes sense, hehe)
2011-10-13 12:38:54+0000 <eve> Done: Not much, except discussed the option of 
optional accounts (if that makes sense, hehe)
2011-10-13 12:38:55+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today I'm not sure, maybe try to 
reproduce the bug we noticed yesterday
2011-10-13 12:38:55+0000 <eve> Next: I'm not sure, maybe try to reproduce the 
bug we noticed yesterday
2011-10-13 12:38:57+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None
2011-10-13 12:38:57+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-10-13 12:39:24+0000 <antoviaque1> mtyaka: for the bug, you mean the 
freezing before announcement of results?
2011-10-13 12:39:29+0000 <mtyaka> yes
2011-10-13 12:39:39+0000 <antoviaque1> yep, agreed, would be good to solve that 
one
2011-10-13 12:39:50+0000 <antoviaque1> (it's the 519, and it happens to me 
almost every game)
2011-10-13 12:40:08+0000 <antoviaque1> so it's likely that some players get 
stuck with this too
2011-10-13 12:40:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> with me too
2011-10-13 12:41:08+0000 <antoviaque1> tartarugafeliz: report for eve or not?
2011-10-13 12:41:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm working on the storyboard still
2011-10-13 12:42:39+0000 <antoviaque1> btw, rather than arguing more over the 
optional account stuff, I was thinking maybe everyone could give his views on 
what we should work on next 
2011-10-13 12:43:12+0000 <antoviaque1> we only had a handful of players so far, 
so it's likely to change, but I feel it would help with this kind of discussion 
to have an idea of what everyone sees as important
2011-10-13 12:44:09+0000 <arbrandes> I'm with Joel Spolsky
2011-10-13 12:44:11+0000 <arbrandes> Fix bugs first
2011-10-13 12:44:13+0000 <arbrandes> always ;)
2011-10-13 12:44:35+0000 <arbrandes> Features, second
2011-10-13 12:44:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> for me it depends on the reactions we 
get from the players that are coming
2011-10-13 12:45:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> if a bug doesn't prevent a player 
from playing, and instead he gets really confused on where to click to join a 
game (I saw some people lost with this already), so we should discuss
2011-10-13 12:46:00+0000 <antoviaque1> mtyaka: ?
2011-10-13 12:46:44+0000 <mtyaka> well.. it sure doesn't feel right that the JS 
tests are broken
2011-10-13 12:47:02+0000 <arbrandes> I'm with mtyaka
2011-10-13 12:47:15+0000 <arbrandes> If we lag behind on the tests, we might as 
well not have them
2011-10-13 12:47:47+0000 <antoviaque1> blanchard: around?
2011-10-13 12:47:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap.. you guys have a point
2011-10-13 12:48:11+0000 <antoviaque1> and yep, I agree that it's not good to 
accumulate technical debt
2011-10-13 12:48:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> true
2011-10-13 12:48:54+0000 <antoviaque1> so #519 + unit tests, what else?
2011-10-13 12:49:20+0000 <arbrandes> Are there any other known bugs?
2011-10-13 12:49:20+0000 <antoviaque1> other problems on the technical side we 
should consider?
2011-10-13 12:49:25+0000 <arbrandes> At least ones that affect the game play
2011-10-13 12:50:03+0000 <antoviaque1> We have usually fixed them 
progressively, but could be worth having a look at the bug db
2011-10-13 12:50:27+0000 <antoviaque1> Other than the one we set aside 
recently, nothing else pops to mind
2011-10-13 12:50:54+0000 * antoviaque1 looking
2011-10-13 12:52:34+0000 <arbrandes> I mean show-stopper bugs, like #519 - I 
don't remember seeing any others on these last play-throughs
2011-10-13 12:55:00+0000 <antoviaque1> yep, from a quick look, that's it
2011-10-13 12:55:21+0000 <antoviaque1> 
http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=11
2011-10-13 12:55:55+0000 <arbrandes> (btw, very, very interesting 
accidentally-made-public rant by a Googler - insights on Amazon, SOA, and 
Google itself: https://plus.google.com/112678702228711889851/posts/eVeouesvaVX)
2011-10-13 12:56:28+0000 <antoviaque1> yup, definitely an interesting read - 
they should have those discussions more often in the open imho, they would gain 
a lot from it :)
2011-10-13 12:57:41+0000 <antoviaque1> so, bugfixes first, I think this one we 
all agree
2011-10-13 12:58:00+0000 <antoviaque1> after that, what else?
2011-10-13 12:58:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz> *reading your article, arbrandes*
2011-10-13 12:59:54+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, it's a long one, no need 
to do it now, heheheh
2011-10-13 13:00:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaah
2011-10-13 13:00:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I almost wrote: I do what I want!!! :P
2011-10-13 13:00:31+0000 <antoviaque1> rofl
2011-10-13 13:00:34+0000 <arbrandes> hahahahahhah, you sure do :)
2011-10-13 13:01:10+0000 <arbrandes> To answer your question, antoviaque: 
that's a good question. ;)
2011-10-13 13:01:12+0000 <tartarugafeliz> so, your question is bugfixes first 
and then what else right?
2011-10-13 13:01:24+0000 <antoviaque1> hehe, yep :)
2011-10-13 13:01:39+0000 <antoviaque1> I felt from the discussion yesterday 
that we don't discuss this enough all together
2011-10-13 13:02:26+0000 <arbrandes> Maybe we should save this for when 
mtyaka's around
2011-10-13 13:02:29+0000 <arbrandes> sorry
2011-10-13 13:02:32+0000 <arbrandes> when blanchard's around
2011-10-13 13:02:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and blanchard too
2011-10-13 13:02:42+0000 <arbrandes> (don't know where that came from mtyaka, 
sorry, lol)
2011-10-13 13:02:48+0000 <antoviaque1> ;p
2011-10-13 13:03:34+0000 <mtyaka> lol :)
2011-10-13 13:03:41+0000 <arbrandes> brain fart
2011-10-13 13:03:43+0000 <arbrandes> :P
2011-10-13 13:04:43+0000 <arbrandes> Anyway, gotta run folks, be back in a 
little while
2011-10-13 13:05:08+0000 <antoviaque1> okidok, let's keep this for tomorrow or 
monday then, when blanchard is around
2011-10-13 13:05:23+0000 <antoviaque1> I'll post on the buddypress actually, 
will give some time to everyone to think about this
2011-10-13 13:06:13+0000 <antoviaque1> nothing else for today?
2011-10-13 13:06:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> nope
2011-10-13 14:03:03+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-10-13 16:08:52+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-10-13 19:50:34+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-10-13 20:18:19+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-10-13 20:46:10+0000 <dachary> hello world
2011-10-13 20:53:20+0000 <arbrandes> hey dachary, long time no see, dude
2011-10-13 20:53:56+0000 <dachary> :-D
2011-10-13 20:56:42+0000 * dachary looking around cardstories.org
2011-10-13 20:56:53+0000 <dachary> so much work done arbrandes ...
2011-10-13 20:57:00+0000 * dachary trying feedback
2011-10-13 20:57:46+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, yes, it was crunch time, and 
finally we delivered something that works (at least part of the time, lol)
2011-10-13 20:58:11+0000 <dachary> ahah
2011-10-13 20:59:10+0000 <arbrandes> A couple of known bugs, and still missing 
some stuff like player names and avatars - but we'll get there eventually :)
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