Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-11-14.


2011-11-14 00:29:19+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-11-14 07:11:44+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-11-14 07:17:14+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-11-14 08:36:24+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-11-14 11:15:27+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: answered your 3 emails (OWA, 
Tuesday and HPO instance down)
2011-11-14 11:15:41+0000 * antoviaque coming back from a week-end off the 
computer :D
2011-11-14 11:16:24+0000 <antoviaque> Btw Skyrim and Modern warfare 3 are 
really cool (especially Skyrim, for those who like the elder scrolls series : ) 
)
2011-11-14 11:18:22+0000 <dachary>  hey
2011-11-14 11:20:36+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: gnt-instance modify -H 
cdrom_image_path= dev.politis.vm.gnt
2011-11-14 11:20:37+0000 <dachary> done
2011-11-14 11:20:45+0000 <dachary> gnt-instance start dev.politis.vm.gnt
2011-11-14 11:20:46+0000 <dachary> done
2011-11-14 11:21:35+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: dev.politis.vm.gnt is back. 
Could you check if all is up ? 
2011-11-14 11:21:37+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: oh - a remaining from the 
install? :)
2011-11-14 11:21:41+0000 <antoviaque> yep
2011-11-14 11:22:14+0000 <dachary> yes
2011-11-14 11:25:51+0000 <antoviaque> yep, all back up - actually I was wrong, 
the HPO is on farsides.com, it's the dev instance of the buddypress there that 
must have caused the memory issues
2011-11-14 11:26:22+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: thanks for bringing it back to 
life : )
2011-11-14 11:27:01+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: for OWA let me know when you 
want to have a look
2011-11-14 11:39:34+0000 <dachary> I honestly don't understand why it fails. 
I'll try once again.
2011-11-14 11:49:55+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: if it fails again I'll try to 
change your email temporarily and test it myself
2011-11-14 11:51:13+0000 <antoviaque> it works for my account, so it will help 
to see where the issue is
2011-11-14 11:55:17+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: dame issue 
2011-11-14 11:55:21+0000 <dachary> same
2011-11-14 11:55:27+0000 <dachary> Login Failed. Your user name or password did 
not match.
2011-11-14 11:55:32+0000 <dachary> mail is [email protected]
2011-11-14 11:55:42+0000 <dachary> which I use as username
2011-11-14 11:55:44+0000 <antoviaque> ah - did you enter "dachary" as a user 
name? not your email
2011-11-14 11:55:50+0000 <antoviaque> ok, that's it : )
2011-11-14 11:56:01+0000 <dachary> ...
2011-11-14 11:56:11+0000 <dachary> it works
2011-11-14 11:56:13+0000 <antoviaque> :p
2011-11-14 11:56:15+0000 <dachary> :-D
2011-11-14 11:56:19+0000 <dachary> thanks for the debug
2011-11-14 11:56:22+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, yw
2011-11-14 11:57:15+0000 <dachary> firefox only records the email for some 
reason
2011-11-14 11:57:20+0000 <dachary> and does not remember the password
2011-11-14 11:57:27+0000 <dachary> hence my confusion
2011-11-14 11:57:42+0000 <dachary> oh well :-)
2011-11-14 11:58:51+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: do you plan to advertise today ? 
2011-11-14 12:00:01+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: yep, but to the "normal" levels, 
not like Friday
2011-11-14 12:00:11+0000 <antoviaque> unless you'd like to see it on munin?
2011-11-14 12:15:25+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online
2011-11-14 12:18:57+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-11-14 13:14:59+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-11-14 13:30:27+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start dailymeeting
2011-11-14 13:30:28+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: 
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2011-11-14 13:30:35+0000 <antoviaque> hello : )
2011-11-14 13:30:50+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Higher traffic experiment 
on cs.org (short story, the server hangs with 300-500 simultaneous visitors, cf 
#588), installed Munin to monitor the CS server more closely, discussed some 
issues with dachary (crash, dev server ram, OWA, etc.), some work on Plebia 
(better unit testing and reporting), week-end off playing Skyrim and MW3 :p 
2011-11-14 13:30:51+0000 <eve> Done: Higher traffic experiment on cs.org (short 
story, the server hangs with 300-500 simultaneous visitors, cf #588), installed 
Munin to monitor the CS server more closely, discussed some issues with dachary 
(crash, dev server ram, OWA, etc.), some work on Plebia (better unit testing 
and reporting), week-end off playing Skyrim and MW3 :p
2011-11-14 13:30:50+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Review alpha12 and push it to 
the test server, include new card from tartarugafeliz :D (tomorrow morning - 
btw should I pull from your repo exclusively now dachary?), look with dachary 
at funnel improvements (he proposed to work tomorrow instead of Wednesday, 
he'll be travelling on Wednesday), more work on Plebia testing as time allows
2011-11-14 13:30:52+0000 <eve> Next: Review alpha12 and push it to the test 
server, include new card from tartarugafeliz :D (tomorrow morning - btw should 
I pull from your repo exclusively now dachary?), look with dachary at funnel 
improvements (he proposed to work tomorrow instead of Wednesday, he'll be 
travelling on Wednesday), more work on Plebia testing as time allows
2011-11-14 13:30:50+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None
2011-11-14 13:30:52+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-11-14 13:31:08+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online
2011-11-14 13:31:15+0000 <blanchard> hi :)
2011-11-14 13:31:17+0000 <antoviaque> hey blanchard : )
2011-11-14 13:31:51+0000 <blanchard> thx for the copy paste antoviaque :)
2011-11-14 13:31:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> todaaay!
2011-11-14 13:31:54+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-11-14 13:31:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> can we put the new card today? :D
2011-11-14 13:32:00+0000 <antoviaque> hey tartarugafeliz : )
2011-11-14 13:32:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahaha
2011-11-14 13:32:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> helloo!!
2011-11-14 13:32:13+0000 <blanchard> give me 2 mn and i'm there (just arriving)
2011-11-14 13:32:30+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: planned to push the 
alpha12 tomorrow - usually sprints end up on Monday evening : )
2011-11-14 13:32:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> okey then
2011-11-14 13:32:45+0000 <antoviaque> and we'll need to test that it works, etc.
2011-11-14 13:32:54+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: yesterday I created a new card 
based on the player's ideas {#590} and played CS
2011-11-14 13:32:54+0000 <eve> Done: I created a new card based on the player's 
ideas {#590} and played CS
2011-11-14 13:32:54+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blockers none
2011-11-14 13:32:54+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2011-11-14 13:32:54+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: today I'm working on a 
independent freelance job I got, but I'm here if you need me.
2011-11-14 13:32:55+0000 <eve> Next: I'm working on a independent freelance job 
I got, but I'm here if you need me
2011-11-14 13:32:59+0000 <mtyaka> hello
2011-11-14 13:33:04+0000 <antoviaque> hi mtyaka!
2011-11-14 13:33:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hi mtyaka!! :)
2011-11-14 13:33:13+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: very very cool to have 
this new card :D
2011-11-14 13:33:16+0000 <mtyaka> :)
2011-11-14 13:33:16+0000 <blanchard> hi mtyaka :)
2011-11-14 13:33:17+0000 <antoviaque> congratz btw!
2011-11-14 13:33:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> \o/
2011-11-14 13:33:43+0000 <antoviaque> who goes next?
2011-11-14 13:34:01+0000 * blanchard is typing his report, late !
2011-11-14 13:34:04+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha
2011-11-14 13:34:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its here if you want to see: 
http://git.farsides.com/?a=blob&p=share&h=df49adadc3c2c9ff729eb55596cf5d3160aef11b&n=card037.png
2011-11-14 13:34:29+0000 <antoviaque> hehehehe
2011-11-14 13:34:36+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: cool, alien :)
2011-11-14 13:34:39+0000 <antoviaque> I can already think of 1-2 stories :p
2011-11-14 13:34:50+0000 <blanchard> me too
2011-11-14 13:35:02+0000 <antoviaque> Will be interesting to see how it changes 
the game dynamics to have a new card :)
2011-11-14 13:35:15+0000 <blanchard> indeed
2011-11-14 13:35:19+0000 <antoviaque> especially with old players trying to 
play it ;p
2011-11-14 13:35:22+0000 <blanchard> ok report typed
2011-11-14 13:35:24+0000 <blanchard> eve, yesterday : nothing
2011-11-14 13:35:24+0000 <eve> Done: : nothing
2011-11-14 13:35:24+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its a continuation of the card where 
there is a spaceship abducting a chicken… if you pay attention, on the new 
card you can see the hat of the chicken :)
2011-11-14 13:35:24+0000 <blanchard> eve, blockers : antoviaque for SU I didn't 
see your answer on the chat (regarding access for funding)
2011-11-14 13:35:24+0000 <eve> Blockers: : antoviaque for SU I didn't see your 
answer on the chat (regarding access for funding)
2011-11-14 13:35:24+0000 <blanchard> eve, today : Taking care of leave of 
premises for end of month, some admin (cap raise/shares for 
founders/appointment Xav), discuss with the guy who was supposed to help us 
raise funds (he is not commiting, same kind of reason as Travian, I need to 
discuss with him more). Will attend a meeting on fund raising at the end of the 
week in Montpellier.
2011-11-14 13:35:24+0000 <eve> Next: : Taking care of leave of premises for end 
of month, some admin (cap raise/shares for founders/appointment Xav), discuss 
with the guy who was supposed to help us raise funds (he is not commiting, same 
kind of reason as Travian, I need to discuss with him more). Will attend a 
meeting on fund raising at the end of the week in Montpellier
2011-11-14 13:35:45+0000 * blanchard looking for the hat of the chicken
2011-11-14 13:37:01+0000 <blanchard> no train ticket charged on farsides btw, 
I'm taking opportunity to spend the we in south of france
2011-11-14 13:37:24+0000 <blanchard> (else i would have asked permission before 
:p)
2011-11-14 13:37:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> cool!
2011-11-14 13:38:30+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: just read travian feedback, 
good points, but I disagree with their approach of trying to address the larger 
group first - cf Graham, it works much better to make it amazing for a small 
number of players firsts, rather than good enough for a larger set
2011-11-14 13:38:32+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: played a dozen hours of skyrim 
too this we ;p
2011-11-14 13:38:44+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahahah
2011-11-14 13:39:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> oh my dog
2011-11-14 13:39:15+0000 <antoviaque> It's a shame, the higher-level is not as 
polished as the first 10 hours (but amazing 10 first hours :) )
2011-11-14 13:39:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahahahahahahah
2011-11-14 13:39:45+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: yes but recurrent issue with 
investors : they want to understand the potential for large group - it's ok if 
we can prove that the things that the small group loves will appeal to larger 
group though
2011-11-14 13:40:33+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: but how do you do that? you 
can only do so many things at once
2011-11-14 13:41:05+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: i agree :) this is why I'm not 
going for VCs currently but rather try to meet BA
2011-11-14 13:41:13+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, agreed : )
2011-11-14 13:41:43+0000 <blanchard> but still the styckiness is a good topic 
imho
2011-11-14 13:41:50+0000 <antoviaque> of course
2011-11-14 13:41:56+0000 <blanchard> do we want styckiness and why :)
2011-11-14 13:42:23+0000 <antoviaque> in my mind these kind of people will only 
go for it when it's done already - ie when you already have large traction and 
proven monetization %
2011-11-14 13:42:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> agreed
2011-11-14 13:42:46+0000 <blanchard> for this i agree, i've seen it
2011-11-14 13:43:14+0000 <blanchard> but for styckiness, I mean, is it 
important that our players come 7 times a week instead of 3 times or one time. 
Do we need specific mechanisms for that. Why ?
2011-11-14 13:43:21+0000 <blanchard> these are still questions for me
2011-11-14 13:44:00+0000 <antoviaque> I think a good first step would be to 
measure more - so we know where we are right now, and where we're good and not 
good
2011-11-14 13:44:34+0000 <blanchard> yep, agreed on that
2011-11-14 13:44:47+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: aside from dachary's work on 
the funnel tomorrow, maybe we could prioritize your story on BI
2011-11-14 13:45:40+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: yes i need to create a story 
on that, haven't had time yet (hmm skyrim is a bad excuse, though)
2011-11-14 13:45:45+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahaha
2011-11-14 13:45:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahaha
2011-11-14 13:45:54+0000 <blanchard> I can do the story tomorrow and we 
prioritize together
2011-11-14 13:46:43+0000 <antoviaque> np, it will take time to do it anyway, 
but the more I think about it, the more I think this part is urgent, to balance 
the qualitative assessment from the game itself
2011-11-14 13:47:02+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: sure, agreed on the importance
2011-11-14 13:47:03+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: sound perfect
2011-11-14 13:47:24+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: something for eve? :)
2011-11-14 13:47:58+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: SU for you, see my blocker
2011-11-14 13:48:30+0000 <blanchard> I couldn't find the login/pwd, I guess i 
lost them
2011-11-14 13:48:49+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'll resend : )
2011-11-14 13:49:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello Guest54822!!! welcome! :D
2011-11-14 13:49:21+0000 <tartarugafeliz> who are you? :D
2011-11-14 13:49:50+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday Worked on #544 (settable 
countdown), it's mostly finished now, only missing client-side tests.
2011-11-14 13:49:51+0000 <eve> Done: Worked on #544 (settable countdown), it's 
mostly finished now, only missing client-side tests
2011-11-14 13:49:52+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today Try to finish #544.
2011-11-14 13:49:52+0000 <eve> Next: Try to finish #544
2011-11-14 13:49:54+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None.
2011-11-14 13:49:54+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-11-14 13:50:36+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: sent
2011-11-14 13:50:44+0000 <antoviaque> hey Guest54822 :)
2011-11-14 13:50:53+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: cool! :D
2011-11-14 13:51:50+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: do you feel it has a good 
usability at the end?
2011-11-14 13:53:44+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: btw, are there still things 
missing to send an offer for January to arbrandes?
2011-11-14 13:54:36+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: It's not too bad, there are a 
couple of issues, though; but it will be easier to explain the problem once you 
can look at how it works
2011-11-14 13:55:05+0000 <mtyaka> well, at that time you'll probably see the 
problem yourself :)
2011-11-14 13:55:14+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ok - if you manage to finish 
today I'll look at it tomorrow morning when I review it 
2011-11-14 13:55:21+0000 <mtyaka> great
2011-11-14 13:56:26+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: let me do the forecast first 
(tomorrow), I need to check how things are with Felix only and not CNC (I'm 
still waiting for an official confirmation, so i'll take conservative 
assumption before we should talk to Adolfo)
2011-11-14 13:56:48+0000 <blanchard> so ask me again tomorrow and I'll be able 
to tell you :)
2011-11-14 13:56:56+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, ok : )
2011-11-14 13:58:09+0000 <antoviaque> all good for today?
2011-11-14 13:58:25+0000 <blanchard> yep !
2011-11-14 13:59:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes
2011-11-14 14:03:05+0000 felixrabe (felixrabe) is now online
2011-11-14 14:03:19+0000 <blanchard> hello felixrabe :)
2011-11-14 14:03:46+0000 <felixrabe> hi
2011-11-14 14:04:17+0000 <felixrabe> i think the game was hanging there for a 
short while
2011-11-14 14:04:22+0000 <felixrabe> the page became unresponsive
2011-11-14 14:04:31+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: ^
2011-11-14 14:05:40+0000 <felixrabe> i use firefox 7.0.1 on ubuntu 11.10, x86-64
2011-11-14 14:06:14+0000 * blanchard trying felixrabe
2011-11-14 14:06:46+0000 <blanchard> felixrabe: are you still experiencing the 
issue ? On my side it seems to work
2011-11-14 14:07:14+0000 <antoviaque> ok, thanks!
2011-11-14 14:07:45+0000 <antoviaque> felixrabe: yep, it's a scalability issue 
we're working on : )
2011-11-14 14:09:12+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: how much do you want on SU ? 
(we could add so that there is until end of month)
2011-11-14 14:10:21+0000 <antoviaque> felixrabe: 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/588
2011-11-14 14:10:57+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: not sure for this month, it 
will depend on the effects of bringing a larger number of players at once
2011-11-14 14:11:21+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: give me a range, I don't know 
how much you need :)
2011-11-14 14:11:28+0000 <antoviaque> at the current rythm $200-300 should be 
enough
2011-11-14 14:11:33+0000 <blanchard> oki
2011-11-14 14:07:28+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end dailymeeting
2011-11-14 14:11:34+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2011-11-14 14:11:34+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/507650
2011-11-14 14:11:51+0000 <antoviaque> if we saw that it brought much more to 
bring more at once, it could increase
2011-11-14 14:12:42+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: done for SU
2011-11-14 14:12:50+0000 <antoviaque> thx
2011-11-14 14:24:52+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: I would need the keys of the 
office (I think you have it) before you leave for thailand :)
2011-11-14 14:25:54+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: aha, yep
2011-11-14 14:26:17+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: how do you want to get them?
2011-11-14 14:26:36+0000 <antoviaque> btw going to lunch, bbl
2011-11-14 14:26:54+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: are you @home on wednesday ? 
I've got errands so i could drop by
2011-11-14 14:29:19+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: yep, should be
2011-11-14 14:29:32+0000 <antoviaque> if you want I can block time to be sure 
nothing comes up in the meantime
2011-11-14 14:30:14+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: perfect, morning coffee ?
2011-11-14 14:32:36+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: deal : )
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2011-11-14 20:22:11+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: you here ? 
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