Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2012-03-19.
2012-03-19 09:02:22+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2012-03-19 10:35:42+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online 2012-03-19 11:20:30+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-03-19 12:44:20+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-03-19 13:12:40+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-03-19 13:22:25+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-03-19 13:23:38+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-03-19 13:28:07+0000 <antoviaque> oy oy 2012-03-19 13:28:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> helloooo 2012-03-19 13:29:35+0000 <blanchard1> hi ! i suggest a meeting dedicated to Lina :) 2012-03-19 13:29:49+0000 <blanchard1> (not much, but it's a start :p) 2012-03-19 13:30:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2012-03-19 13:31:05+0000 <antoviaque> aahaha 2012-03-19 13:31:17+0000 <antoviaque> I could rename eve to lina :p 2012-03-19 13:31:25+0000 <blanchard1> haha :) 2012-03-19 13:31:27+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start meeting 2012-03-19 13:31:28+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve: (done|next|blocked by) <first thing>, <second thing>, ..." 2012-03-19 13:31:45+0000 <antoviaque> eve: done Hacker School - Worked with Proxmox's API and OpenVZ ; Discussed HT with people from HS (in a nutshell: they are ok with it - they plan to look at freelancing later on, but not in the immediate future) 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Good job! 2012-03-19 13:31:45+0000 <antoviaque> eve: done Implemented application form processing on HT.com, configured email alias and added "mock" team section in About page ; Discussed HT with Loic (his feedback: focus more on the "learning/school" rather than marketplace) 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Good job! 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <blanchard1> eve: done school (prep montreal trip april) 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blocked by Need pictures + description for HT's About page 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: We'll need to solve that later, I'm adding it to the agenda 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> My notes of antoviaque's report: 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> - What antoviaque worked on: 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> * Hacker School - Worked with Proxmox's API and OpenVZ 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> * Discussed HT with people from HS (in a nutshell: they are ok with it - they plan to look at freelancing later on, but not in the immediate future) 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> * Implemented application form processing on HT.com, configured email alias and added "mock" team section in About page 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> * Discussed HT with Loic (his feedback: focus more on the "learning/school" rather than marketplace) 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> - What antoviaque will be working on next: 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> * Test & push 2.8 to test server tomorrow morning 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> * Hacker School - New project this week (maybe looking at Ruby - suggestions welcome!) 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> * Put the final touch on HT's website (emphasize more the learning aspect, finish Team section) to send it to HS for feedback (tomorrow) before posting on HN (Wednesday) 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> - What's blocking antoviaque: 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> * Need pictures + description for HT's About page 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next Test & push 2.8 to test server tomorrow morning ; Hacker School - New project this week (maybe looking at Ruby - suggestions welcome!) ; Put the final touch on HT's website (emphasize more the learning aspect, finish Team section) to send it to HS for feedback (tomorrow) before posting on HN (Wednesday) 2012-03-19 13:31:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Quite a plan. 2012-03-19 13:31:56+0000 <blanchard1> oh god 2012-03-19 13:32:13+0000 <antoviaque> sorry blanchard for interrupting yours! 2012-03-19 13:32:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> wooowww\ 2012-03-19 13:32:49+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe 2012-03-19 13:33:11+0000 <blanchard1> hehe yours is far more interesting 2012-03-19 13:33:12+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque: ruby's nuts, but interesting 2012-03-19 13:33:22+0000 <antoviaque> worked with it already? 2012-03-19 13:33:33+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: HS interested, or just ok to let it happen ? 2012-03-19 13:33:44+0000 <antoviaque> I did a bit of rails in the past, but switched to Django by love of python ;p 2012-03-19 13:34:01+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: question n°2 : not sure about "learning" from your discussion with Loic, what is it ? 2012-03-19 13:34:09+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: so far just ok to let it happen - they say "don't wait on us to do it" 2012-03-19 13:34:23+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: oki 2012-03-19 13:34:40+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque: a little bit, yes. I don't much like the language (as potentially cryptic as perl), but Rails is very interesting. 2012-03-19 13:35:02+0000 <antoviaque> but this opens the discussion from the right size - now we have to see if it interests people (hacker/clients) 2012-03-19 13:35:05+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard1, I second the second question :) 2012-03-19 13:35:22+0000 <antoviaque> for the learning, cf hacker school & ycombinator 2012-03-19 13:35:42+0000 <blanchard1> you mean coaching hackers/clients w/ organization ? 2012-03-19 13:36:04+0000 <antoviaque> it's about emphasizing we'll teach people how to organize project & communication online 2012-03-19 13:36:05+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2012-03-19 13:36:11+0000 <blanchard1> oki 2012-03-19 13:36:26+0000 <blanchard1> interesting. What were the cons of Loic regarding marketplace ? 2012-03-19 13:36:30+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: ^ 2012-03-19 13:36:41+0000 <antoviaque> the part I'm not sure about though, is if people realize they need education on the matter : ) 2012-03-19 13:36:58+0000 <arbrandes> agreed, antoviaque 2012-03-19 13:37:05+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: those who've already tried, probably they know ;) 2012-03-19 13:37:47+0000 <blanchard1> We should look at clients who've lived a big failure in decentralized but still want to try :) 2012-03-19 13:38:11+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: yep, for clients it's possible 2012-03-19 13:38:29+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: ah you mean for hackers 2012-03-19 13:38:39+0000 <antoviaque> I wonder how much they blame the coders (and vice-versa, coders blaming clients), rather than realizing they are just doing it wrong :) 2012-03-19 13:38:47+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: both 2012-03-19 13:39:12+0000 <arbrandes> I think it's a bit of both - which is why I liked the idea of matching good hackers to good clients 2012-03-19 13:39:13+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: so we're the service that will reconciliate these two worlds 2012-03-19 13:39:29+0000 <antoviaque> agreed 2012-03-19 13:39:55+0000 <blanchard1> see, me and arbrandes. We're still talking, not insulting each other. Proof that our model works :p 2012-03-19 13:39:59+0000 <antoviaque> I think the education part could come as light touches 2012-03-19 13:40:08+0000 <blanchard1> just an example of course, dude 2012-03-19 13:40:22+0000 <arbrandes> hahahahah 2012-03-19 13:40:42+0000 <arbrandes> good one ;) 2012-03-19 13:40:55+0000 <antoviaque> ie more like YC than HS - people don't go to YC primarily to learn, they go to it because it gives them better chances of succeeding (although that's what happens) 2012-03-19 13:41:19+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: rofl :p 2012-03-19 13:41:20+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: agreed 2012-03-19 13:41:32+0000 * antoviaque is curious to see what a blanchard insulting coders looks like ;p 2012-03-19 13:42:08+0000 <antoviaque> crazy guy 2012-03-19 13:42:22+0000 <antoviaque> so who's next? : ) 2012-03-19 13:42:33+0000 <arbrandes> me, just a sec 2012-03-19 13:42:44+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: question above from me regarding Loic 2012-03-19 13:42:53+0000 <antoviaque> which one? 2012-03-19 13:42:54+0000 <blanchard1> any worry regarding market place ? 2012-03-19 13:42:58+0000 <blanchard1> this one :) 2012-03-19 13:43:39+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: no, not really - just that 10% is too low for the service offered (say it's mor like 25-60% of the price depending on what is done exactly) 2012-03-19 13:44:14+0000 <antoviaque> but that part we know - the first instance of HT is about learning about the market & experimenting 2012-03-19 13:44:49+0000 <blanchard1> ok 2012-03-19 13:44:56+0000 <arbrandes> eve: done Upgraded to jquery 1.7 (#877) 2012-03-19 13:44:56+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Good job! 2012-03-19 13:44:56+0000 <arbrandes> eve: next Browser cache issues (#86) 2012-03-19 13:44:56+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Quite a plan. 2012-03-19 13:44:56+0000 <arbrandes> eve: blocked by need somebody to test jquery 1.7 on Safari/OSX, please. 2012-03-19 13:44:57+0000 <eve> arbrandes: We'll need to solve that later, I'm adding it to the agenda 2012-03-19 13:44:57+0000 <eve> My notes of arbrandes's report: 2012-03-19 13:44:57+0000 <eve> - What arbrandes worked on: 2012-03-19 13:44:57+0000 <eve> * Upgraded to jquery 1.7 (#877) 2012-03-19 13:44:57+0000 <eve> - What arbrandes will be working on next: 2012-03-19 13:44:57+0000 <eve> * Browser cache issues (#86) 2012-03-19 13:44:57+0000 <eve> - What's blocking arbrandes: 2012-03-19 13:44:57+0000 <eve> * need somebody to test jquery 1.7 on Safari/OSX, please 2012-03-19 13:45:10+0000 <blanchard1> eve: done school (prep montreal trip april) 2012-03-19 13:45:20+0000 <blanchard1> eve: next update farsides forecast (lacked time to do it until now); school 2012-03-19 13:45:20+0000 <eve> blanchard1: Quite a plan. 2012-03-19 13:45:22+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: cool! did it went well? or painful upgrade? :) 2012-03-19 13:45:26+0000 <blanchard1> eve: blocked by nothing 2012-03-19 13:45:26+0000 <eve> blanchard1: Glad to hear that 2012-03-19 13:45:50+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: can probably help you to test with MacOSX arbrandes :) 2012-03-19 13:45:55+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque: the game worked perfectly immediately, as far as I could tell. It was the unit tests that were painful (as always, heheheh) 2012-03-19 13:46:01+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahaha 2012-03-19 13:46:23+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque: not VERY painful, just a bit time consuming. It was all good in the end, as far as I could tell, though. :) 2012-03-19 13:46:30+0000 <blanchard1> eve: done school (prep montreal trip april) 2012-03-19 13:46:43+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: please help me, eve is driving me crazy 2012-03-19 13:46:51+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: good luck with the forecast update :) 2012-03-19 13:47:02+0000 <antoviaque> hmmm 2012-03-19 13:47:25+0000 <antoviaque> you're doing it right, I think it's your client which sucks - what are you using? 2012-03-19 13:47:26+0000 <blanchard1> she doesn't care about my "done". I know I don't do a lot currently, but still 2012-03-19 13:47:33+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2012-03-19 13:47:47+0000 <blanchard1> pidgin on ubuntu 2012-03-19 13:47:51+0000 * antoviaque hardcoded eve to ignore blanchard :p 2012-03-19 13:47:52+0000 <blanchard1> strange 2012-03-19 13:47:58+0000 <antoviaque> ah, should work fine 2012-03-19 13:48:00+0000 <antoviaque> let me try 2012-03-19 13:48:12+0000 <antoviaque> eve: done school (prep montreal trip april) [blanchard] 2012-03-19 13:48:12+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Good job! 2012-03-19 13:48:12+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz: could you? help me test on OSX? maybe we can wait until antoviaque deploys on the test server. I would just need a bit of feedback after one or two games, just to see if everything is running fine. 2012-03-19 13:48:14+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: I'll get my revenge 2012-03-19 13:48:44+0000 <antoviaque> ah oops 2012-03-19 13:48:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> arbrandes: no problem :) 2012-03-19 13:48:53+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz: thanks! :)) 2012-03-19 13:48:55+0000 <antoviaque> eve: done school (prep montreal trip april) [blanchard1] 2012-03-19 13:48:55+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Good job! 2012-03-19 13:48:55+0000 <eve> My notes of blanchard1's report: 2012-03-19 13:48:55+0000 <eve> - What blanchard1 worked on: 2012-03-19 13:48:55+0000 <eve> * school (prep montreal trip april) 2012-03-19 13:48:55+0000 <eve> - What blanchard1 will be working on next: 2012-03-19 13:48:55+0000 <eve> * update farsides forecast (lacked time to do it until now) 2012-03-19 13:48:55+0000 <eve> * school 2012-03-19 13:48:55+0000 <eve> - What's blocking blanchard1: 2012-03-19 13:48:55+0000 <eve> * nothing 2012-03-19 13:49:18+0000 <antoviaque> eve: topics? 2012-03-19 13:49:18+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Here is the current agenda: 2012-03-19 13:49:18+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 1. Need pictures + description for HT's About page 2012-03-19 13:49:18+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 2. need somebody to test jquery 1.7 on Safari/OSX, please 2012-03-19 13:49:28+0000 <antoviaque> eve: move to topic 2 2012-03-19 13:49:28+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "need somebody to test jquery 1.7 on Safari/OSX, please" (from arbrandes) 2012-03-19 13:49:32+0000 <arbrandes> Done :) 2012-03-19 13:49:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I know you guys hate adobe, but this is useful https://browserlab.adobe.com/en-us/index.html 2012-03-19 13:49:53+0000 * arbrandes looking 2012-03-19 13:49:55+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: done I took the week off! 2012-03-19 13:49:55+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Good job! 2012-03-19 13:49:55+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: next I'll organize my agenda and start working on my projects and on CS again this week. I'll finish #792 {Animation to show how players level up} 2012-03-19 13:49:55+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Quite a plan. 2012-03-19 13:49:55+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blocked by nothing. 2012-03-19 13:49:56+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Glad to hear that 2012-03-19 13:49:56+0000 <eve> My notes of tartarugafeliz's report: 2012-03-19 13:49:56+0000 <eve> - What tartarugafeliz worked on: 2012-03-19 13:49:56+0000 <eve> * I took the week off 2012-03-19 13:49:56+0000 <eve> - What tartarugafeliz will be working on next: 2012-03-19 13:49:56+0000 <eve> * I'll organize my agenda and start working on my projects and on CS again this week. I'll finish #792 {Animation to show how players level up} 2012-03-19 13:49:56+0000 <eve> - What's blocking tartarugafeliz: 2012-03-19 13:49:56+0000 <eve> * nothing 2012-03-19 13:50:09+0000 <antoviaque> yeyyy! 2012-03-19 13:50:15+0000 <antoviaque> miam miam animation miam 2012-03-19 13:50:20+0000 <arbrandes> Kewl :) 2012-03-19 13:50:28+0000 <blanchard1> :) 2012-03-19 13:50:33+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic 2012-03-19 13:50:34+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "Need pictures + description for HT's About page" (from antoviaque) 2012-03-19 13:50:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2012-03-19 13:51:16+0000 <arbrandes> Browserlab looks very interesting, tartarugafeliz, I'm definitely going to try it out. Thanks! 2012-03-19 13:51:24+0000 <antoviaque> have a look at http://hackertrade.com/about.html I started a Team section (contains potential full time founders + part time support like tartaruga) 2012-03-19 13:52:04+0000 <antoviaque> if you want me to change the picture, send it my way :p 2012-03-19 13:52:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you're welcome arbrandes 2012-03-19 13:52:30+0000 <antoviaque> and it would be good if you could give me the description for your entry - try to make it relevant for the context of HT :) 2012-03-19 13:52:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but in any case if you need me to test something specific tell me ok? 2012-03-19 13:52:57+0000 <blanchard1> haha I want to be a founder just because of the picture you picked antoviaque. hehehe 2012-03-19 13:53:01+0000 <arbrandes> I think my picture's fine - I'll write up a little description and send you, antoviaque 2012-03-19 13:53:14+0000 <antoviaque> thx@ 2012-03-19 13:53:26+0000 <arbrandes> thanks, tartarugafeliz :) 2012-03-19 13:53:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2012-03-19 13:53:37+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: ahahah - yes, I put that picture to be sure you'd send me another one :p 2012-03-19 13:53:40+0000 <tartarugafeliz> david's picture is great 2012-03-19 13:53:45+0000 <blanchard1> i love it 2012-03-19 13:53:47+0000 <antoviaque> that's all I could find, sneaky blanchard :p 2012-03-19 13:53:53+0000 <arbrandes> Yup, david's is the best, by far, hahahah 2012-03-19 13:54:44+0000 <antoviaque> hmm, really? would be good to have a bit better quality at least, no? 2012-03-19 13:54:45+0000 <blanchard1> founders : to handsome guys, a beautiful girl, and a crazy would be king. Really, i love it 2012-03-19 13:54:55+0000 <blanchard1> not to, two 2012-03-19 13:55:13+0000 <antoviaque> roolf 2012-03-19 13:55:21+0000 <antoviaque> ok ok then :) 2012-03-19 13:55:23+0000 <blanchard1> i need to run dear people :) 2012-03-19 13:55:29+0000 <blanchard1> anything else for today ? 2012-03-19 13:55:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> nope 2012-03-19 13:55:45+0000 <blanchard1> (needing me at least) 2012-03-19 13:55:56+0000 <arbrandes> I'm good 2012-03-19 13:56:05+0000 <antoviaque> all good for me too :) 2012-03-19 13:56:13+0000 <blanchard1> byyyye then :) 2012-03-19 13:56:22+0000 <antoviaque> just send me a description today if you can :) 2012-03-19 13:56:28+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end meeting 2012-03-19 13:56:29+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2012-03-19 13:56:29+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/567904 2012-03-19 13:56:35+0000 <antoviaque> thx! 2012-03-19 13:57:01+0000 <arbrandes> Just one last thing - antoviaque, if you need any help at all on the HT front, just say so - you're moving fast, not sure where I could contribute :) 2012-03-19 13:57:35+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: help is most welcome - what part interests you most? 2012-03-19 13:58:11+0000 <antoviaque> maybe a proof-reading/improvement of the text could help 2012-03-19 13:58:36+0000 <antoviaque> https://github.com/antoviaque/hackertrade for the git repo 2012-03-19 13:58:43+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque: well, I can do a little coding (hehehe), but it seems that's not what's called for at the moment. 2012-03-19 13:58:48+0000 <arbrandes> Kewl, I'm up for that 2012-03-19 13:58:58+0000 <arbrandes> thanks 2012-03-19 13:59:06+0000 <antoviaque> yes, the coding part is very light for now :) 2012-03-19 13:59:35+0000 <arbrandes> Was the announcement made on HN yet? (haven't checked) 2012-03-19 13:59:36+0000 * antoviaque thinking 2012-03-19 13:59:48+0000 <arbrandes> I could get some coders to give feedback, at the right moment 2012-03-19 14:00:03+0000 <arbrandes> coders = hackers, to use the right terminology 2012-03-19 14:00:19+0000 <antoviaque> nope, need to finish the team section & polish text a bit, send the site to HS to double-check that they are ok (we're ripping of their layout ;p), and then HN 2012-03-19 14:00:34+0000 <arbrandes> ok 2012-03-19 14:00:49+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: that would be great - that part you can do immediately, the more info the better 2012-03-19 14:00:55+0000 <antoviaque> (getting feedback) 2012-03-19 14:01:28+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque: ok, I'll fire off some emails 2012-03-19 14:01:34+0000 <antoviaque> for posting on HN probably on Wednesday - this way I can be around if it stays on the home page of HN, answering in the comments, etc. (today&tomorrow at HS) 2012-03-19 14:01:45+0000 <arbrandes> roger, roger 2012-03-19 14:01:47+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: cool! 2012-03-19 14:02:07+0000 <arbrandes> I can also help with the comments gig 2012-03-19 14:02:14+0000 <arbrandes> we can have shifts, hehehe 2012-03-19 15:10:56+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2012-03-19 17:20:40+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-03-19 17:37:35+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-03-19 18:49:53+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online 2012-03-19 20:16:20+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-03-19 21:53:33+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, what version of Django does the production server use? 2012-03-19 21:53:52+0000 <antoviaque> let me check 2012-03-19 21:55:04+0000 <antoviaque> >>> django.get_version() 2012-03-19 21:55:04+0000 <antoviaque> '1.2.5' 2012-03-19 21:55:16+0000 <arbrandes> cool, thanks :) 2012-03-19 21:55:36+0000 <arbrandes> (working on the versioning thing) 2012-03-19 21:55:36+0000 <antoviaque> yw :) 2012-03-19 21:55:44+0000 <antoviaque> ahhh cool! :D 2012-03-19 21:55:47+0000 <antoviaque> thanks arbrandes 2012-03-19 21:56:16+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2012-03-19 22:28:23+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-03-19 23:26:05+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
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