Interesting observations about Thais in classrooms and certainly something
to consider. I agree about the size - I really don't expect we should push
for 500. Would be nice if a school or organization had a more informal
"student union" like Unis in USA have. Generally have meeting rooms that are
more casual and used for club & group meetings. Not sure if such a thing
exists here or not.

   -- Ben

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Prem Sichanugrist <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> But then I do, I don't want uni
>
> Sorry for being such a annoyance, but I do
>
> You make people go to university, you can't tell them that 'dammit,
> act like you're in bug&bee!' See, university is the place to study, a
> place to learn new stuff, a place to hold a conference, but hell no
> for the unconference!
>
> You didn't have a problem to make yourself to act informal, but then
> how about ppl who come to barcamp the first time? It's really hard for
> them to talk, to act, to participate, and to ask question. Why? Since
> Thai people are learn 'not' to ask any question during the class. They
> don't care weather they understand or not, they just pretend they know
> it.
>
> And to put them into the place that is a classroom, you're killing
> yourself again!
>
> I know from Barcamp2 there was a whole lot of people. In my opinion?
> That's too many. You know why you get that many? Since you was
> organized in a uni. Some people just come because it's organized in
> their uni, and not because they want to come to Barcamp alone.
>
> I don't think we gonna success on trying to build an informal
> atmosphere in the uni. It just won't happened. You can try again, it's
> gonna be uni feel again.
>
> We're in Bangkok, there're hell lots of conference room out there. I
> know you guys can raise $$ for sure, and you guys have access to the
> projector for sure. I think I want to suggest the place that really
> 'open', then we setup the room by ourselves. It sure shouldn't be like
> the one that 3105 went to, since it's too close to each other.
>
> Just think outside the box guy, think outside the stupid little darn
> box call 'university with full featured facility! It will kill us .. :)
>
>
> -- Bee
>
> On 10 ?.?. 2552, at 0:24, Arthit Suriyawongkul wrote:
>
> >
> > to made it clear,
> > i personally don't have prob with university as a place.
> > i only have prob with traditional formal university/school/classroom
> > atmosphere/setting.
> >
> > uni with informal atmosphere is cool for me.
> > (and i see no reason, if we can went to chula, why not other unis?)
> >
> > chengings,
> > d you have photos or used to went there? bangkunthein. how was it?
> >
> > On 2/9/09, Prem Sichanugrist <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think NECTEC will be cool, since it's not the UNI
> >>
> >> Any info?
> >>
> >> On 9 ?.?. 2552, at 23:29, Chengings wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I found KMUTT Bangkuntien website (http://www.bkt.kmutt.ac.th/) and
> >>> this is meeting and audiovisual service (http://www.bkt.kmutt.ac.th/
> >>> meet/Index.html).
> >>> price is also high (http://www.bkt.kmutt.ac.th/meet/Page_5.html)
> >>> but I
> >>> don't sure if we have direct contact with KMUTT, it's will be
> >>> discounted or not?
> >>> for more information, please call to 02-470-7373.
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 8, 12:37 am, Patipat Susumpow <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> @Changkings is studying at KMUTT, he is cc-ed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Another option is NECTEC (NSTDA?), nearby Thammasat University,
> >>>> Rangsit
> >>>> campus.
> >>>>
> >>>> NECTEC (NSTDA?) used to be a host of overnight CodeFests
> >>>> (http://www.opentle.org/codefest/-
> >>>> website is gone :'(), I guess some of our
> >>>> mailing members have a good connection with Nectec.
> >>>>
> >>>> ---http://twitter.com/kengggg
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Sugree Phatanapherom
> >>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Sadly, there is no information online. Anyway, this camp is just
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> opposite to KMUTT by across the road. Any KMUTT students?
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 6:00 PM, 31o5.OHIRA <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> sugree
> >>>>
> >>>>>> thank for your info. wanted to talk to u about it but u left so
> >>>>>> early!
> >>>>
> >>>>>> anyway, it sounds nice, just check it out.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> can u get more info from them?
> >>>>
> >>>>>> satoko
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:58, Sugree Phatanapherom <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Hmm. resort in bangkok... there is a scout camp near KMUTT if you
> >>>>>> want
> >>>>>> somewhere super informal. it is near main road and easy to
> >>>>>> access. there is
> >>>>>> a public park in walking distance also.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:48 AM, 31o5 OHIRA <
> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> just remember that when i visited singapore last year,
> >>>>>>> Barcampers in
> >>>>>>> singapore took care of me.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> we went to see a place where could be a venue of the
> >>>>>>> barcampSingapore.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> It's like a park, but they have place to stay and also has many
> >>>>>>> conference rooms. It's kind of place you can do camping &
> >>>>>>> conference at the
> >>>>>>> same time. Maybe it's good for company trip or something like
> >>>>>>> that. It was
> >>>>>>> not like resort, more for conference or group meeting trip.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> Is there any place like that? or maybe we can do it at a
> >>>>>>> resort :D
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> but somewhere like that must be bit far from the city.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> 31o5
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Arthit Suriyawongkul
> >>>>>>> <<[email protected]>
> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2009/2/6 31o5 OHIRA <
> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>>> that's one point.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> but is there any other place has environment we need? such as
> >>>>>>>>> rooms,
> >>>>>>>>> projectors, microphones or so.
> >>>>>>>>> and somewhere free...
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> doesn't have to be an uni, but i can't think of other
> >>>>>>>>> places... Thai
> >>>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>>>> must know some.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bangkok public libraries ?
> >>>>>>>> or Temple ?
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> i don't like Unis as well.
> >>>>>>>> actually i feel uncomfortable with BarCamp 2 at Chula.
> >>>>>>>> it's (unintentionally) too formal - may be from the environment
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> architecture, pressing.
> >>>>>>>> (ok, it may goes different way if the building is like Stata
> >>>>>>>> Center
> >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stata_Center>
> >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stata_Center
> >>>>>>>> or The Forum <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKU1d6XxUF0>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKU1d6XxUF0.. which we
> >>>>>>>> lack in this country)
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> that just a reflection. if practically it has to be in the end
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> uni, it's ok. but pls at the first place avoid it.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>>>> art
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>
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