On Mo, 2015-03-16 at 12:01 +0100, Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote: > On 11:49 Mon 16 Mar , Jan Lübbe wrote: > > On Mo, 2015-03-16 at 11:15 +0100, Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote: > > > We will use "barebox_password" as salt and 10000 round to generate a > > > 64 bytes key. > > > > The purpose of a salt is to protect a against dictionary or > > rainbow-table (precomputed) attacks. That means that the Salt must be > > randomly generated and saved with the password. > This will be a enough stong enven with static one to protect against > reverse hack for barebox protection > > Use a 32 byte pass try to do an attack agaist dictionary. > it will take you more than 10 years to break it > > > > For setting a new password in barebox, even a low entropy salt will make > > attacks significantly more expensive. So we should add some entropy from > > user interaction timing in that case. > yes we could do this too > > > > For hashing a password at compile time, we should get the salt from the > > host system. > yes > > do we really need it?
Yes, definitely. We must use the algorithms as they are intended to be used. If we try to move users away from RSA2048 because it will be vulnerable in the future, we should not go against established practice for password salts by hard-coding it. Regards, Jan -- Pengutronix e.K. | | Industrial Linux Solutions | http://www.pengutronix.de/ | Peiner Str. 6-8, 31137 Hildesheim, Germany | Phone: +49-5121-206917-0 | Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686 | Fax: +49-5121-206917-5555 | _______________________________________________ barebox mailing list barebox@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/barebox