In good English it might go something like:
"As logarhythms are Greek to most musicians, they are rarely considered, and
are never used, so IMHO, it would be easier to speak in arithmetical terms.
ET is, unconditionally, a totally abominable/execrable system, and can only
be used to tune a theorbo, a lute etc., because in these instruments all
other temperaments are USELESS."
I must say I agree, wholeheardedly.
RT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Markus Lutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lutelist"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 12:54 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Kirnberger on lutes and temperament
No, not at all.
Boehmische Doerfer are Bohemian villages
On English you could translate that as: That is Greek to me ;-).
>>>>> "Da die Logarithmen fur die meisten Musikanten Bohmische Dorfer
>>>>> sind, ohnerachtet sie bei der Musik wenig oder gar keinen Nutzen
>>>>> schaffen, so ist es nach meinem Sinn, auch deutlicher, sich durch
>>>>> bekannte Rechnungsart auszudrucken.
It's not easy to understand that in German, but Kirnberger speaks of the
fact that most musicians aren't able to calculate the temperaments.
I try to translate (I hope it is understandable ...)
As the logarithms are Greek to most musicians, and by the way aren't of
much use in music, so it is in my opinion even more clear to explain it
through a known way of calculation.
Markus
Roman Turovsky schrieb:
K. actually begins by claiming that musicians are as intelligent as Czech
peasants [sic!] because they tune in that equal abomination.
RT
----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman Turovsky"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lutelist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Markus Lutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"Stephen Arndt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Kirnberger on lutes and temperament
I.e. multiple positions per note preclude non-ET.
RT
For "nur in diesem Fall nothwendig zu verstehen" I would suggest "and
is to be understood as necessary only in the case of (tying the frets
etc.)."
My two cents.
Stephen Arndt
> Die gleichschwebende Temperatur ist
> schlechterdings ganz verwerflich, nur in diesem Fall nothwendig zu
> verstehen, um die Bande einer Theorbe, Laute oder solcher ahnlicher
> Instrumente als Psalter, Zitter u. s. w. recht zu legen, weil eine
> Temperatur ausser dieser Art jeder Seite ihr Recht nicht thut.""
Equal temperament is completely condemnable and only has to be
understood necessarily, to lay the ties of a theorbo, lute or such
similar instruments as psalterium, cither etc. correctly, because any
other temperature won't be able to do right to every string.
Best
Markus
Roman Turovsky schrieb:
"Da die Logarithmen fur die meisten Musikanten Bohmische Dorfer sind,
ohnerachtet sie bei der Musik wenig oder gar keinen Nutzen schaffen,
so ist es nach meinem Sinn, auch deutlicher, sich durch bekannte
Rechnungsart auszudrucken. Die gleichschwebende Temperatur ist
schlechterdings ganz verwerflich, nur in diesem Fall nothwendig zu
verstehen, um die Bande einer Theorbe, Laute oder solcher ahnlicher
Instrumente als Psalter, Zitter u. s. w. recht zu legen, weil eine
Temperatur ausser dieser Art jeder Seite ihr Recht nicht thut.""
Mathias, can we translate this politely?[;-)))
RT
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