Indeed Martin - and what other reason for the invention of the 13 course German theorboed lute than that 18th C players desired to retain the sound of plain gut but also wished for rather more sustain/power possible with the longer (and thinner) basses.
Martyn --- On Sat, 10/1/09, Martin Shepherd <mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: From: Martin Shepherd <mar...@luteshop.co.uk> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Thirteen-course conundrum To: "baroque lutenet" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Saturday, 10 January, 2009, 2:58 PM Dear All, Just a note on the strings issue: it is a mistake to assume that just because wound strings were available, lutenists used them. Some kind of wound string seems to have been available in the 1660s, yet they are not mentioned by Mace (1676) or Burwell (c.1670). They are also not seen in lute iconography - Mimmo has the details - though they are sometimes seen in paintings of bowed instruments. I don't think Mouton's strings (c.1690?) are wound, either. Even in the18th C, one has to ask why bother with the "swan-neck" design if you have wound strings? I think the only piece of physical evidence that a wound string of any sort was ever used on any kind of lute is the string fragment on the Mest lute, and even then there are the usual doubts about exactly how old that fragment is, what it was used for, etc. If it really is the case that wound strings were used on bowed instruments but not lutes, why? One possibility is that lute players were quite happy with the strings they had and saw no reason to change. Bowed strings need more tension, so would have needed very thick all-gut strings - the availability of a thin wound string would then have been welcome. Another aspect (brought to my attention by Mimmo) is the wire used for the winding. The winding needed (at least for a close-wound string) for the 6th course of a Dm lute is very thin, far thinner than was possible using the wiremaking techniques they had. If you couldn't have a wound 6th, there would have been a big problem of a dramatic change from the last all-gut string to the first of the wound strings. Best wishes, Martin To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --