I forgot to say surely it must be Duguay-Trouin.
Anthony
Le 12 janv. 09 à 17:26, Anthony Hind a écrit :
Michel Cardin being both a French speaker and a specialist on
Weiss, of course I bow to his greater knowledge, but wasn't
Blackbeard a pirate, in modern French, Corsair is very much
Privateer, not pirate.
And why would Weiss use the French tittle for Blackbeard?
As I said in my other message, Surcouf is of course too late, which
quite surprised me. I copied the Wikipedia without looking at the
dates. I hadn't realized that France used Corsairs so late.
Anthony
Le 12 janv. 09 à 16:00, Markus Lutz a écrit :
Dear Edward,
Michel Cardin gives two names in his description:
http://www.slweiss.de/London_unv/ge_3Description.pdf
"Of the more than ninety sonatas known to have been composed by
Weiss, only The Infidel and no 22 were given poetic titles. As
suggested by Douglas Alton Smith, the pirate in question was, in
all probability, Blackbeard (Edward Teach), whose life and
spectacular
death in 1718 were subject to intense journalistic coverage during
the lifetime of Weiss. Another candidate would have been René
Duguay-Trouin, a privateer of the same period who
excelled in swashbuckling bravado of the same sort."
Also in the end of the 17th century the first books on pirates
appeared:
Alexandre Olivier Exquemelin, Histoire des Frères de la Côte (1699)
Daniel Defoe, Life, Adventures and Piracies of Captain Singleton
(1720)
The first one were translated to German and English very soon.
Probably Defoe would be too late, as "Fameaux Corsaire" probably
was written 1720 or in the beginning of 1721.
Best regards
Markus
Anthony Hind schrieb:
I would think the most famous, and also the last French Corsair
would have been Surcouf:$
I found this about him in wikipedia (although I always treat this
source with caution, and I have not counterchecked it)
Anthony
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsair
"Robert Surcouf
Robert Surcouf was the last and best known corsair of Saint-Malo.
Born in Saint-Malo in 1773, his father was a ship owner and his
mother the daughter of a Captain. Ship's boy at 13 and corsair
captain at 22 years old, and then — very much against his licence
— for several years attacked ships including those of the French
East India Company, or Compagnie Française des Indes. During the
French revolution, the convention government disapproved of
lettres de course, so Surcouf operated at great personal risk as
a pirate against British shipping to India. Surcouf was so
successful that he became a popular celebrity in France. After a
brief early retirement Surcouf again operated against shipping to
the Indes. Surcouf became a ship owner himself and died in Saint-
Malo in 1827. There is a statue of him on public display."
Le 10 janv. 09 à 05:35, Edward Martin a écrit :
The sonata in F major by SL Weiss in the London MS has a strange
title. The work is also included in the Dresden MS, but is not
entitled Le
Fameux Corsair.
Does anyone have information as to the identity of the "famous
pirate" ?
ed
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