Dear Arto,
       yesterday I have spent my whole lute lesson (with Massimo Lonardi
   in Venice) on the Lully-Mouton lute transcriptions: very, very
   interesting.
   I tend to work on "single units" (one author, etc.) when I can, and
   this could becpme an interesting concert program, I think.
   Togerther with what you found in the Balcarres mss., are you aware of
   other Lully transcription FOR BAROQUE LUTE somewhere else?
   Thanks,
   Luca
   wikla on 17-04-2010 0:22 wrote:

Thanks Luca!

Well, I'm also waiting the MS edition... In the meantime I seem to find it
easier and easier to be able to read the original... There are hard places,
and there are clear mistakes, and also less clear mistakes-or-not-mistakes?
But that will be the case with modern editions, too! Most often than not!

Anyhow, the analyses and several kind of listings of modern editions are
often much more useful than the editions themselves! If you happen to have
the originals... :-)

Arto


On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:19:45 +0200, Luca Manassero [1]<l...@manassero.net>
wrote:

Very good pick, Arto.

I am working on a slightly more readable ;-) version, using Wayne's TAB.
Hoping that Dr. Matthew Spring's version of Balcarres will see the light
sometime soon...

Thank you!

Luca


wikla on 13-04-2010 21:47 wrote:

Baroque lutenists,

I happened to find one to me very familiar piece piece by Lully in ms.
Balcarres. Perhaps it is generally known, perhaps not. Better to tell,

in

case it is not...

So on page 19 there is a "Belle hereuse, with the 9th lowed halfe a

note,

mr. Beck's way".

And actually it is an arrangement of a song by Lully: "Sommes nous pas
trop
heureux" from Ballet de l'Impatience, 1661! I have played also a de
Visee's
theorbo arr., so that is why, I knew the piece.

Peter Steur in his very useful listings of the contents of "every"
baroque
lute ms. and print, doesn't mention this connection. (Btw: Thanks for
your
pages, Peter, if you happen to read this! I use them every day!)

So, of course I had to make a "tubing", too:    ;-)
  [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXmqGAi7EX4
  [3]http://www.vimeo.com/10903832

And the original Lully version can be found in my French theorbo page:
  [4]http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Tiorba/deVisee/
Direct link to the pdf:


[5]http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Tiorba/deVisee/Sommes_nous_orig.pdf

I am sure there is more Lully in Balcarres! Peter lists a couple, but I
believe there must be many more. Anyone knows?

All the best,

Arto



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