Yes, nice playing, indeed, Arto! As for similarities of Altesse und Folies, one of the Gallots published a set of variations on Les Folies d'Espagne. So one might guess that he (if he was the composer of the sarabande, as well) was able to tell Les Folies from Altesse Royale. And pls correct me if I'm wrong, but Les Folies is not a tune but a ground. The similarity bears ion no more than the first two bars IMO.
Mathias > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von Peter Steur > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. März 2011 10:05 > An: Lute; Baroque Lute; wikla > Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Rif: Jacques Gallots and Zoom O3 HD > > > --------------Boundary-00=_XJ6ICZSAMY5000000000 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Dear all, > > while hearing Arto play the 'Altesse Royale' from Gallot (nice playing, Arto!), I > was immediately struck by the strong resemblance with the well known piece > 'Folies d'Espagne'. Could it be that Gallot used this widespread tune for his own > use? One could even speculate that maybe he (Gallot) knew what this Spanish > folly was all about (related to the royal court?)! > > Peter Steur > > -------Messaggio originale------- > > Da: wikla > Data: 22/03/2011 22.10.54 > A: l...@cs.dartmouth.edu; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Oggetto: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques Gallots and Zoom O3 HD > > Dear lutenists, > > first a shameless self promotion (well I do know I am very far of being even a > tiny "virtuso"..;) > > My first 4 reasons to be eager of Jacques Gallot's music are all from ms. > Barbe: > > L'altesse Royale de Gallot > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiaozikECfs (6.3.2011) La Nopce de Gallot > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrwRYCp3Kfs (7.3.2011) > La belle Magnifique > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7unEU8Da-hY (14.3.2011) La Coquette (La > Grondeuse) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT_R1jFUvuk (22.3.2011) > > Wonderful pieces - not so great performances... Anyhow this kind of stuff made > me an eager admirer of one of the Jacques'is. Very player friendly stuff, not very > easy but very cleverly written, at end enjoyable also to fingers and of course to > intelligent. > > I suppose this Jacques is one of the "vieux"es, the "Gallot de Paris". > Mathias, is he the Gallot of ms. Barbe? > > Another comment: The new Zoom O3 HD-version has a couple of important new > features compared to the non-HD version - the HD as such is not so important to > me: > > 1) The optics is much better - especially when there is not much light. > > 2) And much more important: the older non-HD version had only an active and > authomatic volume level setting. When you played quietly, it listened more, and > when you played with more volume, it filtered it out... Actually quite horrible. > The HD version has a setting, where it only reduces volume, when it hears > stronger volume it has heard until now; So you can first play the noisiest place in > your piece, and then start the actual playing. Later clip that start check off. > > All the best, > > Arto > > On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:08:19 +0100, "mathias.roe...@t-online.de" > <mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote: > > Let me try. > > > > Jacques Gallot (I) was brother to Antoine Gallot. Antoine (Gallot > d'Angers) > > died 1647 in Vilnius, Jacques (I) (Gallot de Paris) died around 1685 > > in Paris. Both were called Gallot le vieux. > > > > Jacques Gallot (I) was lute teacher to Sebastien de Brossard (b. 1654) > > in Paris. The Milleran ms. hearkens back to him. He bequeathes music > > by his brother as well as music by the Gaultiers. Antoine Gallot's > > courante Le Canon (in Milleran) is reflected by a courante of the > > same name and > model > > by Denis Gaultier (Barbe, p 1). > > > > Jacques (II) Gallot, called le jeune, was born around 1640 in Paris > > and died there around 1700. Boetticher guessed that Jacques (II) was a > > son to Antoine Gallot. The print "Pieces de Luth Composees sur > > differens Modes > par > > J. G. Auec les folies d'Espagnes etc" (Paris probably 1670) is his work. > > > > So far ... > > > > Mathias > > > > > > -----Original-Nachricht----- > > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano > Date: > > Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:16:51 +0100 > From: Martin Shepherd > > <mar...@luteshop.co.uk> > To: l...@cs.dartmouth.edu > > > > > Thanks, I'd forgotten that. Can you help us out by telling us > > > something about which is which? I'm thinking mostly of the printed > > > book, and the music in the Barbe MS - and it would be interesting to > > > know if they are by different composers. Isn't there also guitar > > > music, or is that yet another Gallot? > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > On 20/03/2011 00:25, Mathias Roesel wrote: > > > > > > > Erm there were two > > > > > > > > Mathias > > > > > > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> Von: > > lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] > > > Im >> Auftrag von Martin Shepherd > > > >> Gesendet: Samstag, 19. März 2011 12:41 > >> An: Lute List > >> > > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano > >> > >> > > > >> Yes, I agree! > > > >> > > > >> Martin > > > >> > > > >> On 18/03/2011 22:46, wikla wrote: > > > >>> -------- Original Message -------- > >>> Subject: > > [BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano >>> > Date: > > Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:29:00 +0200 > >>> From: > > wikla<wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> > >>> To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > > >>> > >>> Dear baroque lutenists, > >>> > >>> after having > > check-played through quite a few pieces by Jacques > >>> Gallot, I've > > come to the conclusion (that means this is my > subjective >>> > > opininion, of > >>> course!) that Jacques really is one of the great > > lute composers - > in >>> the level of F. da Milano, Dowland, E. > > Gaultier and such). And > what >>> especially came to mind, is that > > J. Gallot in a way tastes > same as >>> Francesco da Milano > >>> - > > about 150 years later: very economic writing, actually in > extrem, > > >>> very clever ideas of melody and harmony, extremely very > well > > written >>> to the instrument, its tuning, and to the fingers of > > > both hands of the >>> player. Not to speak of the enjoyment to the > > > ears and understanding. > > > >>> > > > >>> So Jacques is thus taken to my heaven of lute geniuses! :-) > > >>> > >>> Recommended! > > > >>> > > > >>> All the best, > > > >>> > > > >>> Arto > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> To get on or off this list see list information at > >>> > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------Boundary-00=_XJ6ICZSAMY5000000000 > Content-Type: Text/HTML; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> > <META content="IncrediMail 1.0" name=GENERATOR> > <STYLE>v\:* { > BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml) > } > </STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bottomMargin=5 bgColor=#ffffff leftMargin=5 topMargin=5 scroll=yes > rightMargin=5 marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" webfixed="1"> <TABLE > id=INCREDIMAINTABLE height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 > width="100%" bgColor=#ffffff background="" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD > id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="PADDING-RIGHT: 20px; PADDING-LEFT: 20px; > FONT-SIZE: 12pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 20px; DIRECTION: ltr; PADDING-TOP: > 20px; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; POSITION: relative" vAlign=top> <DIV > id=INCREDI_TEXT_AREA style="PADDING-LEFT: 2px"> <DIV> <DIV>Dear > all, </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>while hearing Arto play the 'Altesse > Royale' from Gallot (nice playing, Arto!), I was immediately struck by the strong > resemblance with the well known piece 'Folies d'Espagne'. Could it be that Gallot > used this widespread tune for his own use? One could even speculate that > maybe he (Gallot) knew what this Spanish folly was all about (related to the > royal court?)!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Peter > Steur</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage dir=ltr > style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I>-------Messaggio originale-------</I></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: > 11pt"><I><B>Da:</B></I> <A > href="mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi";>wikla</A></DIV> > <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Data:</B></I> 22/03/2011 > 22.10.54</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>A:</B></I> <A > href="mailto:l...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>l...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A>; <A > href="mailto:baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu";>baroque- > l...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A></DIV> > <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Oggetto:</B></I> [BAROQUE- > LUTE] Jacques Gallots and Zoom O3 HD</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>Dear lutenists,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>first a shameless self > promotion (well I do know I am very far of being</DIV> <DIV>even a tiny > "virtuso"..;)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My first 4 reasons to be eager of > Jacques Gallot's music are all from ms.</DIV> <DIV>Barbe:</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>L'altesse Royale de Gallot</DIV> > <DIV> <A > href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiaozikECfs";>http://www.youtube.co > m/watch?v=FiaozikECfs</A> (6.3.2011)</DIV> > <DIV>La Nopce de Gallot</DIV> > <DIV> <A > href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrwRYCp3Kfs";>http://www.youtube. > com/watch?v=vrwRYCp3Kfs</A> (7.3.2011)</DIV> <DIV>La belle > Magnifique</DIV> <DIV> <A > href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7unEU8Da- > hY">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7unEU8Da- > hY</A> (14.3.2011)</DIV> > <DIV>La Coquette (La Grondeuse)</DIV> > <DIV> <A > href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT_R1jFUvuk";>http://www.youtube. > com/watch?v=aT_R1jFUvuk</A> (22.3.2011)</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>Wonderful pieces - not so great performances... Anyhow this kind of > stuff</DIV> <DIV>made me an eager admirer of one of the Jacques'is. Very > player friendly</DIV> <DIV>stuff, not very easy but very cleverly written, at end > enjoyable also to</DIV> <DIV>fingers and of course to intelligent.</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I suppose this Jacques is one of the "vieux"es, the > "Gallot de Paris".</DIV> <DIV>Mathias, is he the Gallot of ms. Barbe?</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Another comment: The new Zoom O3 HD-version has > a couple of important new</DIV> <DIV>features compared to the non-HD > version - the HD as such is not so</DIV> <DIV>important to me:</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>1) The optics is much better - especially when there is not much > light.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>2) And much more important: the older non-HD version had only an active > and</DIV> <DIV>authomatic volume level setting. When you played quietly, it > listened more,</DIV> <DIV>and when you played with more volume, it filtered it > out... Actually quite</DIV> <DIV>horrible. The HD version has a setting, where it > only reduces volume, when</DIV> <DIV>it hears stronger volume it has heard > until now; So you can first play the</DIV> <DIV>noisiest place in your piece, and > then start the actual playing. Later clip</DIV> <DIV>that start check off.</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All the best,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>Arto</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:08:19 > +0100, "<A href="mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de";>Mathias.Roesel@t- > online.de</A>"</DIV> > <DIV><<A href="mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de";>Mathias.Roesel@t- > online.de</A>> wrote:</DIV> <DIV>> Let me try.</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> > <DIV>> Jacques Gallot (I) was brother to Antoine Gallot. Antoine > (Gallot</DIV> <DIV>d'Angers)</DIV> <DIV>> died 1647 in Vilnius, Jacques (I) > (Gallot de Paris) died around 1685 in</DIV> <DIV>> Paris. Both were called > Gallot le vieux.</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> Jacques Gallot (I) was lute > teacher to Sebastien de Brossard (b. 1654) in</DIV> <DIV>> Paris. The > Milleran ms. hearkens back to him. He bequeathes music by his</DIV> > <DIV>> brother as well as music by the Gaultiers. Antoine > Gallot's courante Le</DIV> <DIV>> Canon (in Milleran) is reflected by a > courante of the same name and</DIV> <DIV>model</DIV> > <DIV>> by Denis Gaultier (Barbe, p 1).</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> > <DIV>> Jacques (II) Gallot, called le jeune, was born around 1640 in Paris > and</DIV> <DIV>> died there around 1700. Boetticher guessed that Jacques > (II) was a son to</DIV> <DIV>> Antoine Gallot. The print "Pieces de Luth > Composees sur differens Modes</DIV> <DIV>par</DIV> <DIV>> J. G. Auec les > folies d'Espagnes etc" (Paris probably 1670) is his work.</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> > <DIV>> So far ...</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> Mathias</DIV> > <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> -----Original- > Nachricht-----</DIV> > <DIV>> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and Francesco > da Milano</DIV> <DIV>> > Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:16:51 > +0100</DIV> <DIV>> > From: Martin Shepherd <<A > href="mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk";>mar...@luteshop.co.uk</A>></DIV> > <DIV>> > To: <A > href="mailto:l...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>l...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A></DIV> > <DIV>></DIV> > <DIV>> > Thanks, I'd forgotten that. Can you > help us out by telling us</DIV> <DIV>> > something about > which is which? I'm thinking mostly of the printed</DIV> > <DIV>> > book, and the music in the Barbe MS - and it would > be interesting to</DIV> <DIV>> > know if they are by > different composers. Isn't there also guitar</DIV> > <DIV>> > music, or is that yet another Gallot?</DIV> > <DIV>> ></DIV> <DIV>> > Martin</DIV> > <DIV>> ></DIV> <DIV>> > On > 20/03/2011 00:25, Mathias Roesel wrote:</DIV> > <DIV>> ></DIV> <DIV>> > > Erm > there were two </DIV> <DIV>> > ></DIV> > <DIV>> > > Mathias</DIV> <DIV>> > > ></DIV> <DIV>> > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-- > ---</DIV> <DIV>> > >> Von: <A href="mailto:lute- > a...@cs.dartmouth.edu">lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A> [<A href="mailto:lute- > a...@cs.dartmouth.edu">mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A>]</DIV> > <DIV>> > Im >> Auftrag von Martin Shepherd</DIV> > <DIV>> > >> Gesendet: Samstag, 19. März 2011 > 12:41</DIV> <DIV>> > >> An: Lute List</DIV> > <DIV>> > >> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and > Francesco da Milano</DIV> <DIV>> > >></DIV> > <DIV>> > >></DIV> <DIV>> > > >> Yes, I agree!</DIV> <DIV>> > >></DIV> > <DIV>> > >> Martin</DIV> > <DIV>> > >></DIV> <DIV>> > > >> On 18/03/2011 22:46, wikla wrote:</DIV> > <DIV>> > >>> -------- Original Message -------- > </DIV> <DIV>> > >>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] > Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano >>></DIV> > <DIV>> > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:29:00 +0200</DIV> > <DIV>> > >>> From: wikla<<A > href="mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi";>wi...@cs.helsinki.fi</A>></DIV> > <DIV>> > >>> To: <A href="mailto:baroque- > l...@cs.dartmouth.edu">baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu</A></DIV> > <DIV>> > >>></DIV> <DIV>> > > >>> Dear baroque lutenists,</DIV> <DIV>> > > >>></DIV> <DIV>> > >>> after having > check-played through quite a few pieces by Jacques</DIV> > <DIV>> > >>> Gallot, I've come to the conclusion > (that means this is my</DIV> <DIV>> > subjective > >>> opininion, of</DIV> <DIV>> > >>> > course!) that Jacques really is one of the great lute composers -</DIV> > <DIV>> > in >>> the level of F. da Milano, Dowland, > E. Gaultier and such). And</DIV> <DIV>> > what > >>> especially came to mind, is that J. Gallot in a way tastes</DIV> > <DIV>> > same as >>> Francesco da Milano</DIV> > <DIV>> > >>> - about 150 years later: very > economic writing, actually in</DIV> <DIV>> > extrem, > >>> very clever ideas of melody and harmony, extremely very</DIV> > <DIV>> > well written >>> to the instrument, its > tuning, and to the fingers of</DIV> <DIV>> > both hands of > the >>> player. Not to speak of the enjoyment to the</DIV> > <DIV>> > ears and understanding.</DIV> > <DIV>> > >>></DIV> <DIV>> > > >>> So Jacques is thus taken to my heaven of lute > geniuses! :-) >>></DIV> <DIV>> > > >>> Recommended!</DIV> <DIV>> > > >>></DIV> <DIV>> > >>> All the > best,</DIV> <DIV>> > >>></DIV> > <DIV>> > >>> Arto</DIV> > <DIV>> > >>></DIV> <DIV>> > > >>></DIV> <DIV>> > >>></DIV> > <DIV>> > >>> To get on or off this list see list > information at</DIV> <DIV>> > >>> <A > href="http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute- > admin/index.html">http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute- > admin/index.html</A></DIV> > <DIV>> > >>></DIV> <DIV>> > > >>></DIV> <DIV>> > ></DIV> > <DIV>> > ></DIV> <DIV>> > > ></DIV> <DIV>> ></DIV> > <DIV>> ></DIV> <DIV>> ></DIV> > <DIV>> ></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV> </DIV></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><SPAN > id=IncrediStamp><A > href="http://www.incredimail.com/?id=603560&rui=95898138&sd=20 > 110323"><SPAN name="imgCache" border="0"><IMG alt="Animazioni > GRATUITE per le tue e-mail - da IncrediMail! 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