Dear Mathias,
When you say the lute was tuned in A (Old tuning), I think you may mean
that it looks to be so if we take the vocal part staff notation as
indicating a particular fixed pitch. There's enough evidence to suppose
that in many domestic contexts the voice accomodated to the lute rather
than having various sizes of instrument always to hand.
MH
--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Mathias RAP:sel <mathias.roe...@t-online.de>
wrote:
From: Mathias RAP:sel <mathias.roe...@t-online.de>
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: La belle / O stelle homicide
To: "baroque-lute mailing-list" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 11:18
Est-ce l'ordonance des Cieux (Moulinie, book 4, 1633, fol. 9v-10) was
covered by Albert in his Arien, vol. 3, 1640, #15 (So ist es denn des
Himmels Will). Albert's friend Andreas Adersbach, member of the
KAP:nigsberg
Poetic Society, metamorphosed the two French stanzas of Moulinie's book
into
three German stanzas, adding a Latin headline that reads Nil vincula
solvit
Amoris (Nothing bursts the bonds of Love). The German lyrics are way
more
drastic than the French, btw. Well, us swashbuckling Germans ...
Moulinie offers the voice part in staff notation and the lute part in
tablature (an 8c lute willdo for this one). He had his lute tuned in A,
obviously (a'-e'-b-g-d-A). Albert offers both voice and bass parts in
staff
notation. He takes over Moulinie's bass literally, yet the bass only,
not
the whole lute part, and renders it as single-line figured bass.
Mathias
> -----UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Mathias RAP:sel [mailto:[1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. August 2011 11:37
> An: baroque-lute mailing-list ([2]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu)
> Betreff: Re: La belle / O stelle homicide
>
> Dear Grzegorz,
>
> Thank you for this bulk of information and for focusing on the king's
brother, a
> refined person forced into politics. Moulinie served the duke as from
1628,
> that's three years before the queen, Gaston's mother and E.
Gaultier's
employer,
> was banned and Gaultier retired. So, Moulinie and Gaultier possibly
met on
> grounds of profession.
>
> Airs de court is another topic in this respect. O stelle homicide has
Italian lyrics,
> whereas La belle homicide is explained as a French subject in the
RhA(c)torique.
> Now, Moulinie's 1624 book of airs de court contains airs of French,
Italian,
> Spanish language, and even one air in the dialect of Gascogne (if I
got it
right).
> Apparently, the crowds in the French salons were not at all
nationalistic.
>
> Perhaps tunes with this initial motive simply were in the air of the
salons, and
> both Moulinie and Gaultier grabbed and accommodated it. Perhaps one
> composer took over from the other and parodied it, using a different
language
> for the sake of conspicuousness.
>
> Mathias
>
>
> > -----UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
[mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im
> > Auftrag von Grzegorz Joachimiak
> > Gesendet: Montag, 22. August 2011 23:26
> > An: Mathias RAP:sel
> > Cc: baroque-lute mailing-list
> > Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Odp: La belle / O stelle homicide
> >
> > Hello Mathias,
> >
> > there is very interesting what did you notice. I will try tell
something...
> >
> > Duke of Orleans liked among other things airs a boire (drinking
> > songs). We could find eight airs for lute tablature by Moulinie in
his
> > third book of airs de cour from 1629. But airs a boire were not
only
> > tavern music. This music was pleasant also for salon's people.
> >
> > Another airs called "petits Airs, fort jolis & fort divertissans"
we
> > could also called songs in the metres and binary forms of social
dances.
So,
> they sang e.g.
> > gavottes, sarabandes, menuets etc. as a short nice pieces.
Something
> > about that wrote B. de Bacilly in "L'art de bien chanter, augnente
> > d'un discours qui sert de response a la critique de ce traite"
(Paris
1679, repr.
> Geneva 1993).
> >
> > These all songs reinforced the common culture of French courtiers
in
> > which both the women and men of the salon wanted to belong one of
this
> group.
> > So, if "La Belle Homicide" by E. Gaultier could be Courante and "O
> > stelle homicide" by Etienne Moulinie is a song, maybe this melody
was
known
> by both?
> > But who did it the first? I have no idea.
> >
> > There are only my assumption and I am not sure is there proper
> > explanation of connection between Ennemond Gaultier and Etienne
> > Moulinie. But airs by Moulinie are very interesting because their
show
> > a male conviviality of close society of Duke. Moulinie's airs were
> > influenced not only by milieu of Duke but also by Spanish and Italy
culture.
> >
> > The last interesting thing for me is connection between Etienne
> > Moulinie and Heinrich Albert who published his song as a
contrafactum
> > (with translated text) in Konigsberg 1648. But I have to check is
> > there the same piece as "O stelle homicide" or different.
> >
> > Bests
> >
> > Grzegorz
> >
> >
> > Dnia 22-08-2011 o godz. 18:57 Mathias RAP:sel napisaAA'(a):
> > > There is an air de court by Etienne Moulinie, O stelle homicide
> > > (from Airs de Cour avec la tablature de guitarre, 1624). IMHO the
> > > initial motive reminds of the beginning of Ennemond Gaultier's
> > > courante La belle homicide.
> > >
> > > Etienne's brother Antoine, who was singer to king Louis XIII,
helped
> > > him gain a post with the king's brother, Gaston d'Orleans, and
> > > probably knew the queen's valet and lutenist, Ennemond Gaultier.
I
> > > was wondering if ...
> > > there
> > > may have been some kind of connection.
> > >
> > > Anyone?
> > >
> > > Mathias
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
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