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   From: William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>;
   To: James Jackson <weirdgeor...@googlemail.com>;
   Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "golden" rose
   Sent: Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:39:23 PM
   Hi James,

   Not certain about historical practices, though I do know that the Wolf
   12c in Fuessen has a gilded rose.

   For modern makers, Tony Rooley's renaissance lute (7? 8? course) has a
   golden rose.  I think it may have been made by Michael Lowe but am not
   certain.

   Bill
   From: James Jackson <weirdgeor...@googlemail.com>
   To: Bernhard Fischer <fischer...@aon.at>
   Cc: Luca Manassero <l...@manassero.net>;
   "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Sent: Friday, 1 November 2013, 15:34
   Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "golden" rose
     I know this one is a few months old - but personally I love gold
   gilded
     roses. I plan have a gold gilded rose on my current build.
     I have seen a painting containing a lute with a gold gilded
   somewhere,
     I just can't remember where or when. I have also seen a modern maker
   do
     it once too and have read references to them, again can't recall
     exactly when or where.
     To sum up, I've not doubt it was a genuine practise at some point in
     time.
     On 20 June 2013 15:45, Bernhard Fischer <[1][2]fischer...@aon.at>
   wrote:
       Dear Luca,
       I have no knowledge of a lute with a golden rose, BUT I have
       knowledge of
       two lutes with heraldic double-head eagle in the rose. Any interest
       in this?
       Bernhard
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       [mailto:[3][4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
       von Luca Manassero
       Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Juni 2013 16:12
       An: [4][5]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
       Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] The "golden" rose
         Dear list,
             a few years ago I saw pictures of a lute built by a well
   known
         british lutemaker and showing a really beautiful golden rose.
         Baroque lutenists certainly know about the Allemande of Ennemond
         Gaultier (Vieux Gaultier) "La roze d'or" also known as "The loss
   of
     the
         golden rose lute".
         My question is: have you any news (or iconographc evidence) of
         (original) lutes with a golden rose?
         Thank you in advance,
         Luca
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