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Crickey! Â
Same end clasp design as the other two though - is it unique to Hoffmann do you
know?.........
Martyn
From: David Van Edwards <da...@vanedwards.co.uk>
To: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Luca Manassero <l...@manassero.net>; baroque-lute
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Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2018, 14:21
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Johann Christian Hoffmann, 14 course swan-neck
lute in Leipzing
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Hoffmann, 14course swNothing like this monster though. Body width 335 Depth 233
David
At 12:21 +0000 13/2/18, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
  Two other well known lutesby Johann Christian in the Brussels
  collection are fairly deep too, having a depth greaterthan half the
  width (roughly 0.57):
  Leipzig 1716 eleven course (M 1559): body length 495;width 323; depth
  185
  Leipzig 1730 thirteen course with bass rider (M 3188):496; 322; 181
  regards
  Martyn
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  From: Luca Manassero <l...@manassero.net>
  To: baroque-lute<baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
  Sent: Monday, 12 February 2018, 18:08
  Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Johann Christian Hoffman n, 14course swan-neck
  lute in Leipzing
    Dear common wisdom,
    a couple of years ago I stumbled upon theLeipzig Museum website,
    planned to visit their Hoffman exhibition(but had to pass on it,
    unfortunately) - then one day realized thatthe pictured Hoffmann
    swan-neck lute they recently acquired (2012,says the YouTube video)
    mounts 14 courses: 8 fretted and 6 at thesecond pegbox (2x1, 6x2,
    6x2).
    See[1][1]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php: it's
  the
    first instrument pictured under JohannChristian Hoffmann' section on
    the page.
    It's a really strange instrument with anincredibly deep body (it
  must
    be uneasy to hold, or at least it looksso).
    I'm sure the book about Hoffmann theysell
  ([2][2]http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christia
  n-h
    offmann.html) has all the measures about thatinstrument, but that
  book
    is really kind of expensive. The Museum'swebsite doesn't talk about
    string length and date on this lute (I doread German and couldn't
  find
    the infos anywhere on the website)
    The YouTube video on the same page shows aGerman lutenist (Sven
    Schwannberger, I think) playing a swan-necklute, which is of course
    not the original Hoffmann lute, as it shows13 courses, as usual.
    Anybody out there who has more details aboutit?
    Thanks a lot,
    Luca
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id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1518514505993_133081">Same end clasp design as the other
two though - is it unique to Hoffmann do you know?.........</span></div><div
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<div>At 12:21 +0000 13/2/18, Martyn Hodgson wrote:</div>
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id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1518514505993_133072"> Two other well known
lutes
by Johann Christian in the Brussels<br>
collection are fairly deep too, having a depth greater
than half the<br>
width (roughly 0.57):<br>
Leipzig 1716 eleven course (M 1559): body length 495;
width 323; depth<br>
185<br>
Leipzig 1730 thirteen course with bass rider (M 3188):
496; 322; 181<br>
regards<br>
Martyn<br>
__________________________________________________________________<br>
<br>
From: Luca Manassero <l...@manassero.net><br>
To: baroque-lute
<baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu><br>
Sent: Monday, 12 February 2018, 18:08<br>
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Johann Christian Hoffman n, 14
course swan-neck<br>
lute in Leipzing<br>
Dear common wisdom,<br>
a couple of years ago I stumbled upon the
Leipzig Museum website,<br>
planned to visit their Hoffman exhibition
(but had to pass on it,<br>
unfortunately) - then one day realized that
the pictured Hoffmann<br>
swan-neck lute they recently acquired (2012,
says the YouTube video)<br>
mounts 14 courses: 8 fretted and 6 at the
second pegbox (2x1, 6x2,<br>
6x2).<br>
See
[1][1]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php: it's<br>
the<br>
first instrument pictured under Johann
Christian Hoffmann' section on<br>
the page.<br>
It's a really strange instrument with an
incredibly deep body (it<br>
must<br>
be uneasy to hold, or at least it looks
so).<br>
I'm sure the book about Hoffmann they
sell<br>
<br>
([2][2]http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christ<span></span>ia<br>
n-h<br>
offmann.html) has all the measures about that
instrument, but that<br>
book<br>
is really kind of expensive. The Museum's
website doesn't talk about<br>
string length and date on this lute (I do
read German and couldn't<br>
find<br>
the infos anywhere on the website)<br>
The YouTube video on the same page shows a
German lutenist (Sven<br>
Schwannberger, I think) playing a swan-neck
lute, which is of course<br>
not the original Hoffmann lute, as it shows
13 courses, as usual.<br>
Anybody out there who has more details about
it?<br>
Thanks a lot,<br>
Luca<br>
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1.
[3]http://mfm.uni-leipzig.de/dt/Forschung/hoffmannn.php<br>
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[4]http://www.hofmeister-musikverlag.com/martin-und-johann-christian-<span></span>ho<br>
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