On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 10:58:13PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
> Chris;

Hi Martin,


> It might be worth putting a check in the btool for the pearl to check
> how big the usb config is, I notice that the pearl with the fix is 97
> long and in the same mode my unfixed pearl is only 69 long.

If we're talking about the "0 endpoint" phenomenon, the problem is
that the endpoints we need, for talking to the databases, are the
endpoints that are missing.  Checking the size would only tell me that
the information I need is not there...


> unfortunately nothing in the usb configuration looks like a firmware
> version a real hardware model or anything that could be called
> pearlish; I begining to think RIM hates the usb standard because I'm
> so annoyed that I won't be able to identify this stupid device.

You can detect the Pearl and Curve by the fact that they show up as
Mass Storage devices when first plugged in.  Other than that, you
have to actually talk to the device (and overcome all the hurdles
that btool has to).  I'm sure there are database records in the device
somewhere that would tell you.

Unfortunately, it's probably not implemented yet.  You might try
using the "double bcharge" trick (I forget if you tried that),
and then running a full backup with the GUI.  Then untar the backup
file and use strings and grep to search for identification data.

If you wanted to try your hand at reverse engineering, I think I have
some usb capture logs I could give you, and see if during Windows's
initial handshaking the needed data shows up.


> As an aside could you all send me a lsusb -v of your various non pearl
> devices so I can compare them, make sure you do one in mode 4, one in
> mode 6 and one in mode 1?

This is an old, non-pearl device.  It only has mode 0001.

- Chris

Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0fca:0001 Research In Motion, Ltd. Blackberry Handheld
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               1.01
  bDeviceClass          255 Vendor Specific Class
  bDeviceSubClass       255 Vendor Specific Subclass
  bDeviceProtocol       255 Vendor Specific Protocol
  bMaxPacketSize0        16
  idVendor           0x0fca Research In Motion, Ltd.
  idProduct          0x0001 Blackberry Handheld
  bcdDevice            1.04
  iManufacturer           1 Research In Motion
  iProduct                2 RIM-Handheld
  iSerial                 0 
  bNumConfigurations      2
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength           46
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0 
    bmAttributes         0x80
      (Bus Powered)
    MaxPower              500mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           4
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol
      iInterface              0 
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
        bInterval              10
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x06  EP 6 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
        bInterval              10
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
        bInterval              10
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x05  EP 5 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
        bInterval              10
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength           46
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0 
    bmAttributes         0x80
      (Bus Powered)
    MaxPower              500mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           4
      bInterfaceClass       255 Vendor Specific Class
      bInterfaceSubClass    255 Vendor Specific Subclass
      bInterfaceProtocol    255 Vendor Specific Protocol
      iInterface              0 
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
        bInterval              10
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x06  EP 6 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
        bInterval              10
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
        bInterval              10
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x05  EP 5 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0040  1x 64 bytes
        bInterval              10
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)



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