Hi, On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Jason Ede <[email protected]> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:baruwa- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mikael Syska >> Sent: 16 November 2011 13:04 >> To: Baruwa users list >> Subject: Re: [Baruwa] Bayes, MS Exchange & dumb users. >> >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Jason Ede >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:baruwa- >> >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Colin Kissa >> >> Sent: 16 November 2011 08:45 >> >> To: Baruwa users list >> >> Subject: Re: [Baruwa] Bayes, MS Exchange & dumb users. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 16 Nov 2011, at 10:37 AM, Jason Ede wrote: >> >> >> >> > I think it'd be possible to add something to the ribbon or to the >> >> > menus >> >> something as mark as spam/not-spam and then it just sends the message >> >> ID,spam/ham and an authentication token to Baruwa or a daemon >> running >> >> on the mail gateway... >> >> >> >> This would be cool too, it would require a component to be installed >> >> in outlook i guess. >> >> >> > >> > Yes, the component would need to be installed. I think using some basic >> VB routines it should be possible to read the headers to pull out the >> message ID and it's just a question of integrating it nicely. This way you'd >> be >> learning on the 'clean' message, not after exchange had mangled the >> headers... >> >> I would go for Outlook 2010 only, we dont have any older installations. I >> can't really remember how the older versions look like. >> >> But under one of the ribbons with 2 button "Report spam", "Report ham" >> ... there should not really be more settings. > > Yes, that is all you need... The other 'nice to have' option would be to be > able to select a group of messages and right click and then have learn as > ham/spam then. > >> >> Authentication is another issue. We dont have account for every user, only >> admins. So we need a nice and clean way for doing this. Maybe ip based or >> some other sort that can only reports spam. Maybe a queue so an admin >> first have to ackowlegde the incoming as also rightfully being spam. >> >> So ... lets say: 192.168.0.0/24 dont need acknowledgement from an admin, >> while "130.0.0.0/24" are allowed to send to the queue but they need an >> admin to acknowledge the mails before being processed. >> Any feedback here ? >> >> I'm a .NET Dev, so it would take forever for me to do that part on the baruwa >> webinterface, but maybe andrew or some other could implement this that >> knows python/django. >> > > I was thinking that assuming outlook is on a domain for now then you could > just push out settings via the GPO for authentication... For standalone > installs then you'd need to manually enter values. I think if it works on > outlook 2010 then it should probably work on 2007 as well?
Yes, settings could be pushed. But would you then have the authentication details as cleartext on the client. Thats why I like the ip based solution. Maybe a combinataion of both. We dont have any clients that use exchange without being in a domain. Private I use gmail. Work in 2010 ... 2008 are so old school :-) Guess we are lucky here. But arent the ribbon thing new in 2010? > > On the baruwa side then we'd need a way of passing username/password along > with message ID and learn operation (probably via https) and then all we'd > need to return would be a success/fail value. This depends on how auth are implemented in baruwa. I really have no idea, but I guess Andrew can enlighten us on that part. Should be easy in most cases. Only a "Ok" that the server has received the message id, we dont have time to wait for the server to learn the messages. Why would normal users even care. There should ofcause be logging on the server so the "admin" can see if something is going wrong. > > >> > >> >> > >> >> > In an exchange environment the authentication details could be >> >> > pushed >> >> using group policy or the user could just put in their own account >> >> details... I figure it could work in a similar manner to the release >> >> from the quarantine email? >> >> >> >> Maybe NTLM or SPNEGO, I am planning to work on some exchange >> >> integration features, but i do need some one to provide me with a >> >> licensed exchange & active directory KVM instance, i intend on >> >> putting out an appeal for sponsors soon. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Baruwa - www.baruwa.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 > _______________________________________________ > Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 > _______________________________________________ Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056
