I do not think this an argument to
Il giorno 25 feb 2017, alle ore 00:05, Kendall Shaw <kendall.s...@workday.com>
ha scritto:
A more interesting example, maybe: If you compare XPath with this SPARQL
fragment:
?x foaf:knows/foaf:name ?name .
All of my friend’s friend’s friend’s friend’s friend’s etc., with arbitrary
depth, who know my friend with name x.
Friends are not limited to having 1 “befriender” in the way that elements have
1 parent, so it could make sense to represent some data as a less restricted
form of graph than an XML element tree.
Kendall
On 2/24/17, 10:07 AM, "basex-talk-boun...@mailman.uni-konstanz.de on behalf of
Kendall Shaw" <basex-talk-boun...@mailman.uni-konstanz.de on behalf of
kendall.s...@workday.com> wrote:
For example, a program that regulates flow of water in a garden sprinkler is
probably not a good match for xquery and an xml database.
On 2/24/17, 2:20 AM, "meumapple" <meumap...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kendall,
I do not agree. A few considerations. If data are XML, I find it
difficult to use a different language from XQuery. It is possible, of course,
but much much more complex (why doing that?!). But native XML files are not the
entire story. You can transform, for example, all of text data into an elegant
XML working version and very very easily query it. I can do whatever I want
with XQuery easily and deal with different kinds of data, so I do not agree at
all.
Il giorno 24 feb 2017, alle ore 00:37, Kendall Shaw
<kendall.s...@workday.com> ha scritto:
What the application is makes all the difference. If the purpose does
not have to do with XML and XML in a database, then XQuery and BaseX is less
likely to be appropriate.
Kendall
On 2/23/17, 12:36 PM, "basex-talk-boun...@mailman.uni-konstanz.de on
behalf of Maximilian Gärber" <basex-talk-boun...@mailman.uni-konstanz.de on
behalf of mgaer...@arcor.de> wrote:
Hi Marco,
from my experience, the best way to handle these types of arguments is
to make clear that there is nothing 'special' about XQuery. It is a
query language.
If you have to compare BaseX to something that most Java developers
will know, I'd use Hibernate and HQL, a library and DSL that is all
about querying data(bases).
For C# developers, LINQ would probably ring a bell.
Of course there is a lot more to it, and when it comes to web
applications, you can use it in almost every layer (templating,
routing, storage, etc).
Regards,
Max
2017-02-22 13:43 GMT+01:00 Marco Lettere <m.lett...@gmail.com>:
> Hi to everyone,
>
> probably this is not the right place for such a discussion but the BaseX
> communitiy is the one I'm better introduced to and the one I trust the most.
> So I hope that this somewhat unusual excursus will anyway be of interest to
> some of you.
>
> As for myself I fell in love with XQuery and its power in terms of data
> manipulation many years ago. I wouldn't change it with anything else and BTW
> we're using it (thanks to the incredible BaseX runtime) much beyond
> data-processing being it the backbone of all our micro-service oriented
> architectures.
>
> Now, to the point, in the near future I probably will be called to face a
> somewhat skeptical customer who will argue about the technological choice of
> XQuery.
>
> My point will be to make a comparison with the technologies they're
> currently using and I would like to demonstrate that for a rather XML- (and
> in general data-) intensive workflow XQuery is perfectly suitable and
> probably better than many other alternatives.
>
> I would tend to exclude XSLT because it would face similar opposition. I
> would also exclude languages at a lower level of abstraction like Java,
> Python, Javascript, C/C++ and so on for obvious architectural reasons.
>
> But then only templating languages/engines come to my mind. Those would
> still be probably novel technologies to learn and wouldn't offer the
> structural, syntactic and semantic power of XQuery anyway.
>
> So I ask you kindly, in order to complete my preparation on these matters,
> is there anyone that has experience with other tools or languages that can
> be compared with XQuery when used for XML querying, generation,
> transformation, templating, composition and so on?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Marco.
