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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:47
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Subject: AW: Using Batik w/out
Plug-In
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without any</em> plug-ins i.e. just using the
in-built Windows JVM. ... OK than you will have a problem. Microsoft
will not deploy a java VM in his new IE6 ! If you want to run java applets
than you must install the Sun plug-in in the near
future.
I am working in a
large company and we have the same problem with installing any additional
software at client side. A good argument for java is Java Web Start. Yes it
cost (in our case) Euros to deploy the java plugin but we get the advantage
from zero administration cost caused by java web start applications. That
was the reason wy we have java at client side.
I do not belief,
that the MS JVM is ready to run any natik applications. You are limited to all
the AWT stuff !
Jan
All,
I am currently working on a proof of concept.
Our company product only supports (and is dependent on) the Adobe SVG Viewer
v.3. The reason being that the product was developed before Batik was
fully mature. In order to make the case for switching to Batik I was hoping
to be able to display SVG content in a Windows browser-based
applet<em>without any</em> plug-ins i.e. just using the in-built
Windows JVM.
Accomplishing the same task to show the use of
Swing is easy enough, just include the swing-all.jar in the archive tag. For
Batik to work, I understand there is a dependency on Java
2D.
Has anyone investigated this problem? Does
anyone know a full list of dependencies to get JSVGCanvas to display in an
applet without JRE1.3. If not, can anyone at Batik tell me whether what
I am attempting is possible? If not, why? This application is intranet
based so bandwidth/download times are not an issue.
I know this may sound a slightly odd
requirement, Batik requires JRE1.3 according to the website, but you would
be amazed at how many (even large) organisations will completely reject any
concept of installing plug-ins, be they Active X Controls like the ASV, or
the latest JRE. Our company recently developed an application for a
Telecommunications company based in the UK - I can't name them in
case they wrap me in Cable and Stuff :-). Because these large organisations
outsource their IT they work from a standard disc image. Any change to this
image (i.e. additional software) costs dollars.
If I could deliver SVG to a browser
without the java plug-in I would be in a strong position to argue for Java
as basis for client-side architecture, with all the benefits that
can bring. Don't bother telling me all the other benefits of Batik; I well
aware, it is my boss I have to convince. At the moment I am trying
to implement a ComboBox in _javascript_, which is like a broken pencil
i.e. pointless.
Thanks in advance
Jamie
