It's nice to see so much interest in SVG but the fact remains that well over
85% of all browser users do not have access to SVG because it is not
supported by IE.  We can all hope that other browsers will increase their
market share but Microsoft controls the browser market and SVG will never be
as popular as competing technologies until they support it in their
products.  And that's just not going to happen when they market their own
alternative technology.

-JCT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Neumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2008 02:01
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: SVG is alive, was: Re: Why is Batik so complex?
> 
> I can only confirm that interest about SVG is alive and growing.
> 
> At the SVG Open conference (http://www.svgopen.org/2008/) in August in
> Nuremberg we had presence from all browser makers, except Microsoft. A
> lot
> of important mobile phone companies had been around. Inkscape was
> present
> as well as KDE. If you look at the SVG Open speakers list you will see
> that a number of important companies, universities and research
> institutes
> presented at the SVG Open developers conference. SVG is even used to
> visualize results and state of the world biggest machine, the Large
> Hadron
> Collider in Geneva.
> 
> KDE4 uses SVG a lot and I think it is for KDE's and SVG's benefit that
> a
> whole desktop environment builds around SVG and CSS. The Inkscape and
> KDE
> developers also promised to be more actively involved with the SVG
> specification process. They did a number of extensions to SVG which
> should
> now be standardized in the main SVG specs. If you look at graphics and
> multimedia software in the Open Source universe you will find SVG all
> over
> the place.
> 
> In addition, almost all Ajax libraries use SVG/VML, and SVG support was
> voted as the number one missing feature in Internet Explorer among the
> OpenAjax developers
> (http://www.openajax.org/runtime/wiki/Summary_Report#The_Top_Requested_
> Features)
> 
> Finally, Tim Berners-Lee publically criticized Microsoft for the lack
> of
> SVG support in IE - which is a remarkable step, since Tim Berners-Lee
> usually does not comment on preferred browsers and usually does not
> criticize browser makers (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26646919/).
> 
> Andreas
> 
> 
> > Thus spake "Mikael":
> >>
> >> There are a lot of people using SVG, and SVG is the only "real"
> vector =
> >> graphics standard that exist*, almost all browsers except one has
> SVG =
> >> support in one form or another (Safari, Firefox, Chrome, Opera and
> so =
> >> on), Microsoft will off course do everything they can to avoid
> having to
> >> =
> >> support SVG and it was a bit nasty of Adobe to stop supporting the
> SVG =
> >> plugin though.
> >
> > Given that there are several popular SVG illustration programs (e.g.,
> > Inkscape), there's a huge community of people making icons in SVG,
> > SVG is nice to work with, and there's no plausible competitor, I
> > wouldn't worry about SVG going away any time soon.
> >
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> > J.
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