On Thursday 18 March 2010 22:38:17 Larry Finger wrote:
> On 03/18/2010 02:31 PM, Michael Buesch wrote:
> > On Thursday 18 March 2010 18:46:35 Larry Finger wrote:
> >> (1) Modify b43-fwcutter to take data from an existing SPROM,
> > 
> > Why not extend the ssb-sprom tool? I don't think this has anything to do 
> > with
> > firmware, except that we (ab)use the firmware loading mechanism of the 
> > kernel
> > for loading the blob into the kernel.
> 
> It has nothing to do with firmware, but the existing fwcutter has all the 
> parts
> to generate files in the firmware directory,

Everything needed to "generate a file in the firmware directory" are the open()
write() and close() syscalls.

> > 
> >> I have chosen to implement this in
> >> fwcutter rather than ssb_sprom because the ordinary user will not have 
> >> access to
> >> ssb_sprom;
> > 
> > Huh? ssb-sprom is GPL software. I have no problem relicensing it under BSD 
> > or
> > even something more liberal. I don't see a problem for "ordinary users" 
> > here.
> 
> It has nothing to do with the license. My distro, openSUSE, packages fwcutter
> along with a script that uses wget to download the Broadcom drivers and 
> extract
> firmware for both b43 and b43legacy. The average user only has to execute that
> script. Of course, the package could include both fwcutter and ssb_sprom
> programs, but that would make a bigger change to the openSUSE package than 
> just
> a patch to fwcutter. I suspect that other distros use similar packages.
> 
> > Well, but that version won't do anything on the SPROM, too.
> 
> Yes, but if fwcutter were modified, it could write the virtual SPROM file.

I think it really is abuse of fwcutter.
What if you don't want any proprietary firmware at all, but still want an SPROM 
image?
What about distros that do _not_ automatically use fwcutter to put proprietary 
fw in place
for legal reasons? (Which most likely is the majority of distributions).

Why create yet another dependency on fwcutter. I thought the long term plan was 
to get rid
of proprietary firmware and fwcutter?

Is it really such a big deal for a distribution to include yet another tiny 
opensource
package? If that really is a problem for a distribution, they should just 
completely
stop doing their distro.

-- 
Greetings, Michael.
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