The other emotions play a big part too :-)
They 'The US Air Force' will never find a use for this. Except maybe when it comes to increasing intelligence of the individual or decreasing it for that matter.....
The only way to travel through space is in our own minds!
PEACE ERIC
On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 04:28 PM, Garuda wrote:
Dear Eric, Lloyd, Graeme, et. al.,
I consider the Steiner reference to sympathetic vibratory physics as very
interesting, especially in the light of evidence that our governments,
particularly the US government, have top secret research projects going on
along the same lines as radionic and psychotronic research. They heve the
budgets, the manpower and the chain of command to do this research and to
keep it top secret. They seem to be doing the very things Steiner feared. It
is we who are sharing what we know and discover with the world, and
countering the dangerous trend of keeping it all secret for narrow, selfish
purposes.
That is one thing to think about. Another is the fact that we all seem prone
to making what we might view in hindsight as mistakes. Hopefully we will all
enjoy the fruits of learning from these mistakes, and not just those
experimenting with radionics--though working with radionics has brought to
light several serious errors in past biodynamic practice, such as frequent
and one-sided use of 500 without 501 and without horn clay or some other
such unifying, balancing remedy. So I very much support the wish that we who
are experimenting with radionics can and will learn from our mistakes. The
mistakes are manifold and the learning process is rather slow, though it
does seem to be incremental. It is important that we honestly and publicly
acknowledge and discuss these mistakes. While it may seem embarrassing, it is
a sign of egoic maturity when we publicly acknowledge our mistakes. You
might take a second look at any political figures who do this sort of thing,
as it is as much needed as it is rare.
Anyway, let us please not fall into such traps as labeling radionic preps as
"not real" or invalidating the primary making of preps as unnecessary.
Either of these partisan views tends to create divisions. What we need
instead is an open forum for sharing what we know--something we can rely
upon our governments not to do from time to time and case to case.
Regards, Hugh
BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protection www.bdmax.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Myren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:32 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Sir I respect your opinions and I find your words to be thoughtful and
full of insight I hope you can be a voice of reason for these people. I
only pray that the practitioners of these energies come to realize some
of the mistakes I see that they are making and change the focus of
their attention. The only Radionics that they need to practice is that
of their Corpus Callosum.....
PEACE ERIC
On Saturday, July 19, 2003, at 11:51 PM, James Hedley wrote:
Dear Eric,
Greetings from the land of the Wizards of Oz.
Which posts do you think push Radionics with an almost religious
fervour. As
far as I can see most radionic practitioners on this list bend over
backwards to try and give both methods equal time.
I dont see that anyone on BDnow is trying to take any persons cherished
beliefs from them. I personally have always advocated the use of both
methods(radionics and BD)
As for Radionics not being in the mindset of RS philosophy how would
you
react to a most fortunate find of a lecture of RS in Holland, in 1918
where
he discussed what would happen if we did not take up Sympathetic
Vibratory
Physics ( as promoted by Keely, Russel and Tesla), whose work provided
the
theoretical base for the technology which has become known as
Radionics and
Psychotronics. which would move mankind into a new type of
spirituality and
save a lot of work. At the present time I only have an abstract of the
lecture translated from the Dutch but will try to get the full text.
One small part that is pertinent "Now for Mankind to reach its
spiritual
goal it is necessary that these separate occult faculties will not
separate
humanity in three opposing groups. Because for instance if the
"West-people"
only develop their material-mechanical occultism and keep it for
themselves,
even use it to oppress the other peoples, and hold them in their
(economical) power, the West will become "soulless", bound to the
material
side of life on this planet." This was quoted on the problems which RS
saw
would occur if SPV was not allowed to evolve.
Interesting material. Maybe we also need to look at what is likely to
happen
to mankind if the spiritual impulses developing in other areas of the
globe
are not allowed to develop.
Maybe some of you out there will be able to tell me.
James Hedley
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Myren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:07 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
One thing I wanted to say about this is I have a problem with the way
Radionics has been portrayed on BDNOW! The almost religious fever that
pushes these things as being better than biodynamics is wrong.
Radionics deals with non living Earthly forces and Biodynamics deals
with living energies (soil bacteria, moon related water levels in the
plants ect...) as well as a balancing out of the universal forces
contained in the cow horns.
Now it may be that the practitioners of Radionics and Cosmic Pipes are
healing something very great in 'The Spirit of Gaia' and that would be
nearly impossible to argue with! Yes Radionics has its place in the
energy system of the planet but is that instead of Biodynamics? NO! It
must work in conjunction with it in a vastly different space. The
point
I am trying to get across is that the two systems can work quite well
in conjunction with one another as long as both are being used.
As has been stated before and this is quite agreeable that with
Radionics, if you want to cover a lot of ground, find the biggest
Vortex on your property or positively flowing dragon line and blast
your preps deeply into the ether. But if you are not dealing with the
living forces appropriately you are not going to get very far. Humans
can not live on manna from heaven alone.
Very simply put you have to deal properly with the living forces of a
farm organism as well as the higher spiritual ones. To not concentrate
the focus of your attention on a living life and turn your head
completely towards the spiritual is to mearly live in a dualistic
world
which time and again has proven itself not work....we have to take
care
of both in a monism of mind!
We are after all just that little bit between Heaven and Earth!
PEACE ERIC
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