I am wondering why the US should have a problem with some one from another
country coming in and earning money by speaking? We have Bill Clinton over
here, charging a zillion to give the same propaganda speech on why the US
should be given free reign to belt shit out of who ever they choose.

Gil

jsherry wrote:

>          THE "TERRORISM EXCUSE" NOW JUSTIFIES ANY AND ALL
>
>                   Indeed the "Spirit of Justice" has itself truly been
> draped
>
> MER- Washington - 2/27/2002:
> While U.S. Attorney John Ashcroft is busy draping the statue of the Spirit
> of Justice, whose breast has been on display at the Department of Justice
> since the 1930s and is hardly a mystery; and while the White House is busy
> making excuses for getting rid of the Israeli-centric speechwriter, David
> Frum, the guy who penned the phrase "Axis of Evil" but made the mistake of
> letting his wife credit it to him; the USG is using the "terrorism excuse"
> not only to get ready for "regime change" in Iraq but to keep
> "undesireables" from even speaking up through all kinds of new intimidation
> and repression techniques.  The following letter from a Canadian activist
> helps explain what is going on as never before when it comes to
> demonstrations and conferences that expose and oppose what the U.S. is
> really up to; and is a reminder that what we learn in this way is just the
> tip of the repression iceberg.
>
>              THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE!
>                  Interrogation at the US Border
>
>                           By John Clarke
>
> My name is John Clarke and I am an Organizer with the Ontario Coalition
> Against Poverty (OCAP). In the early afternoon of February 19th, 2002, I
> crossed the international bridge between Sarnia, Ontario and Port Huron,
> Michigan. I was on my way to a speaking engagement that had been set up by
> students at Michigan State University.
>
> When I pulled up my car at the customs booth, the officer asked where I was
> bound and I told him. He wanted to know on what basis I was asked to speak
> and whether I would be paid. I replied that I was with OCAP and that I had
> been told by the organizers of the meeting that an honourarium would be
> provided as was normal. The officer was concerned that this meant I was
> coming into the US to work. Of course, people on both sides of the border
> accept speaking invitations all the time on this basis and the issue of a
> work permit is never raised. At this point, the matter was nothing that
> could not have been rapidly cleared up if I had been on my way to address a
> business seminar or deliver a lecture on self awareness.
>
> As instructed by the officer, I parked my car and made my way into the
> offices shared by customs and US Immigration. As soon as my ID was run
> through the computer, there was a marked change in the situation. An
> officer asked me more questions about my intentions in the US, what anti
> globalization protests I had attended and whether I opposed the 'ideology
> of the United States'. My car was searched and I was taken into a room and
> thoroughly (though not roughly) frisked. I was then told that I would be
> denied entry to the US and that the FBI and State Department wanted to
> speak to me. Agents were on their way from Detroit I was told.
>
> After about an hour and a half, a man entered the 'controlled reception'
> area that I was being kept in and passed by me into the inner offices. He
> was carrying a big folder and a pile of files. It struck me that he carried
> them the way a highly skilled worker might carry his or her precision
> tools. He spent some time in discussion with the local officers and then I
> was brought into an interrogation room to deal with him. He introduced
> himself and gave me his card. His name was Edward J. Seitz of the State
> Department of the United States Diplomatic Security Service and his rank
> was Special Agent. I found him to be an impressive and fascinating
> character.
>
> Seitz, with the backing of another local officer, interrogated me for some
> considerable time. It was not a situation like an arrest by Canadian police
> where silence is the best option. Had I refused to talk to him, I did not
> doubt that he would order me detained and that it would be some time before
> the Canadian consular authorities came into the picture. If I was to avoid
> at least several days in detention, I determined that I had no option but
> to answer his questions. It was immediately obvious to me that I was
> dealing with a specialist in interrogation methods. He told the admiring
> locals at one point that he had been stationed in Yemen and I avoided
> speculating on how he had employed his talents there.
>
> Seitz's basic strategy, apart from general intelligence gathering, was to
> try and set me up to tell him something false that would place me in the
> situation of violating US law. He began with some very basic questions on
> my personal background, extremely affable in his manner and striking a pose
> of mild confusion that was designed to make me underestimate him. He then
> asked about OCAP. He told me it sounded like we were good people but he had
> heard something about an organization that a year or so before had been
> involved in a confrontation with the police at the Ontario Legislature.
> That wasn't us was it? The trap was clear and I told him that we were
> indeed that organization. His affable manner then vanished and his
> difficulties in focusing his thoughts ended. He gradually moved his chair
> over so we were right up against each other and fired questions at me. He
> wanted to know about the June 15, 2000 March on the Ontario Legislature
> where the Toronto police attacked a march against homelessness that we had
> organized. He wanted to know about charges that the police have laid
> against me. He wanted to know how OCAP is structured and who are the
> members of its elected executive committee (which I refused to tell him).
>
> Seitz then took up the question of OCAP's friends and allies in the US. Are
> we involved in anti globalization work. Isn't this a cover for anarchism?
> Was I personally an anarchist or a socialist? (In the interests of anti
> capitalist unity, I won't say which one of these I acknowledged I was).
> Seitz had a huge file on OCAP with him that included leaflets from public
> speaking events I had been at in the US. He knew the name of the man I
> stayed with the last time I was in Chicago. He wanted to know who I spoke
> to in the Chicago Direct Action Network. He claimed that I was an advocate
> of violence and that my association with DAN showed this but (in a rare
> stumble) could find nothing in their literature that proved that they call
> for violence.
>
> This phase of the questioning went on for a long time. He covered a great
> deal of ground and had at his disposal voluminous information on us. He,
> obviously, had been in contact with the Canadian police but was most
> interested on our US allies. The exception was an enormous interest in
> Canadian anti capitalist activist, Jaggi Singh. He knew that he and I had
> spoken at the same meetings and was most anxious to find out if he was also
> in the US. He showed me a picture of Jaggi and wanted to know where he was
> at that moment.
>
> Suddenly, the mask of affability went back on. I was a 'gentleman' and he
> didn't want to lock me up. I was ok but he couldn't understand how I worked
> with a 'violent man like Mr. Singh'. Then he told me he would have to ban
> me from the US but I could go to the US Consulate in Toronto and apply for
> a waiver. I could just take a seat in the waiting room while they prepared
> some paper work but I would soon be on my way. I had not been sitting out
> there long, however, before the Special Agent came out to try a new tack
> that I had heard of in the past. Essentially, his plan was to make me think
> he was utterly mad and, thereby, rattle me to the point where I lost my
> judgement. I assume the method works better if it is used after serious
> sleep deprivation. He came over and sat next to me right there in the
> waiting area with other people around. He had a few OCAP cheques that he
> asserted showed I was bringing with me the means to live illegally in the
> US. I was going to jail, he asserted. I explained that the cheques were in
> my bag because I always kept a few with me to cover the cost of office
> supplies and suchlike and that I had seen no reason to take them out just
> because I was going to spend a few hours in Michigan.
>
> Then came the most astounding part of the whole interrogation. Out of the
> blue, Seitz demanded to know where Osama Bin Laden was hiding. I knew were
> he was, he insisted. If I grew a beard I would look like Bin Laden. I was
> holding back on telling him why I was going to the university and who I was
> going to meet there. If I didn't want to go to jail, it was time to tell
> him the real story. I replied that I had been quite open with him about my
> intentions and that sending me to jail was now up to him. He laughed, told
> me there were no problems. I could go home after all. Did I drink tea of
> coffee? Would I have a coffee with him if he came up to Toronto. I told him
> I would, which was the only lie I told that day, and he gathered up his
> files and left.
>
> Shortly after this, the local officials gave me the free ticket for the
> bridge which is the only perk that comes along with being denied entry to
> the US and, a little over five hours after coming over, I headed back to
> the Canadian side.

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