Interestingly, I came home from giving a talk on "The Cycle of Life and
Death in a Permaculture System" to the Local Bioregional Permaculture
Group and found this post.

The wood ash in the compost was one thing that came up and I had to go
on the side of only small amounts. I wish I had the post four hours
earlier.

Are you able to direct me to the actual text of this?

Gil

bdnow wrote:

> Hey Allan,
>
> No, I have been pretty busy and only loosely following
> things.  I only opened your e-mail because of the
> subject line (I didn't realize it was to me and not
> the list).
>
> Yes, there is something to ashes.  In a rodale study
> (that was never published and I found buried in some
> archives), they made a buch of compost piles with
> different amendments, including rock phosphates,
> Pfeiffer starter, wood ash and a few other things.
> They noted that no pile finished any earlier than the
> others, but didn't make much mention of the final NPK
> analyses, which were rather remarkable.  Most of the
> piles hovered around 1-1-1 to 2-2-2, BUT the Pfeiffer
> pile was like 1-2-10 (nothing strange about 10, eh?)
> and the wood ash pile was like 1-6-2.  So lets back up
> here...the piles with added Rock phosphate were barely
> up from the rest while the pile with the added K (wood
> ash) had soaring P and the pile with added critters
> and preps (you might think N) had a soaring K [note: A
> Biodynamic Book of Moons - my favorite for the
> alchemic notation - places K as the Sal or BD500
> nutrient element (makes roots and heavy stalks and
> such)and P as the sulph or fire element].
>
> So it seems that the ash somehow stimulates the fire
> element.  This is also seen if you put some freshly
> burned wood ash on hot peppers or tomatoes - the ripen
> quickly and thoroughly and the peppers are searing
> like coals.
>
> On a more mundane level, all of those nutrients,
> mostly mineral elements, are rapidly realeased to the
> soils as soluble salts rather than their slow
> mineralization through biotic/humic channels.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> Chris goes on:
>
> I imagine that the issue is like any other -
> unshakeable doctrine is foolish and there may be
> reasons to do things like slash and burn sometimes.  A
> fire brings new life to a forest at the same time that
> is destroys old life.
> The issue of whether burned things (ash) are good for
> the soil is pretty straight forward - yes, generally,
> unless you have a salinity or alkalinity problem).
> Whether or not to slash and burn versus just applying
> wood ash is another.  My immediate intuition is that
> it is probably a good thing once in awhile, if not
> more often.  Of course you would want to do something
> to perk the microbes back up after the cooking, but it
> shouldn't be hard.
>
> As far as the Rodale study, they seemed to do
> everything pretty much by the book - the main
> ingredients were all from the same big piles, the only
> difference being the extra amendments added.  They
> seemed to be pretty sciency folks from the way it
> read.  I sure wish I could find the thing, but I have
> looked and do not have it.
>
> Chris Shade

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