Allan,
Could you direct me to a list dealing with Biodynamics and Organics?

As I intend to sub off this list shortly.

Gil

jsherry wrote:

> April 20 Anti-war Protests Overwhelm Expectations
> Don Hazen, AlterNet
> April 22, 2002
>
> Huge anti-war demonstrations on Saturday in Washington, San Francisco,
> Seattle, Boston, Salt Lake City and Houston turned out considerably more
> people than organizers and police authorities expected. District of Columbia
> Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey estimated that 75,000 marched in Washington,
> while estimates in San Francisco varied between 30,000 and 50,000.
>
> The size, energy and peacefulness of the marches was a big boost to
> progressive forces across the country who have been very much on the
> defensive in the post-9/11 period. "Saturday was inspiring evidence that
> there is enormous grassroots opposition to the Bush agenda of endless war at
> home and abroad," said Terra Lawson-Remer, one of the D.C. organizers.
>
> The gatherings, by far the biggest in the U.S. since the Sept. 11 attacks,
> focused on an array of progressive grievances -- the undermining of civil
> liberties, questions about U.S. foreign policy in Afghanistan and Colombia,
> as well as the effects of corporate globalization around the world.
>
> But the protesters' most powerful message was their anger about Israel's
> repression in the West bank. Chants of "Stop the occupation now" and "We are
> all Palestinians today" emanated from the marchers, and the black, red,
> white and green flag of Palestine dominated the visual landscape.
>
> Saturday's demonstrations in Washington were in contrast to the memorable
> April 2000 actions in Washington, when protests against the World Bank and
> International Monetary Fund led to a virtual shutdown of the downtown area.
> At that time there were pitched clashes between police and demonstrators,
> and many hundreds were arrested. In this weekend's protests, separate events
> with differing goals were held on Saturday morning, but in the afternoon,
> everyone -- despite some differences in strategy and tactics -- came
> together to create a huge and peaceful crowd. According to the Washington
> Post, Chief Ramsey praised the decorum of Saturday's demonstrations.
>
> "The organizers did an outstanding job," said Ramsey, baton in hand as he
> watched thousands file past the Justice Department building. "This is really
> what protests ought to be."
>
> The San Francisco four-hour protest caused widespread gridlock. "It's one of
> the biggest protests in the past five years," San Francisco Police Commander
> Greg Suhr told Jim Herron Zamora of the San Francisco Chronicle. "It's not
> often that you see one where a crowd has formed in the Civic Center but
> there are still people in Dolores Park who haven't started marching."
>
> The San Francisco demonstration was billed as a march against "the real axis
> of evil: war, racism, poverty." But clearly, support for the Palestinian
> cause transcended the other issues. The march included many Americans of
> Palestinian descent, as well as immigrants from other Arab countries who
> became politically active after the Sept. 11 attacks. One protester, Riad
> Morrar, immigrated from Egypt 27 years ago, and now owns a technology
> company in the Sacramento area. "There is nothing else I can do but tell
> President Bush: 'You are wrong. Stop killing my people,'" Morrar told the
> San Francisco Chronicle, as he marched with his wife and four children.
>
> "I spent 20 years avoiding the news, avoiding conflict. It is too
> depressing," said Kais Menoufy, another Egyptian immigrant at the march. "I
> love America. But I'm embarrassed and angry that my country is supporting
> genocide."
>
> According to Herron Zamora, the oldest marcher in San Francisco was probably
> Dave Smith, an 89-year-old member of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, an
> American group opposing nationalists in the Spanish Civil War from 1936-39.
> "I am proud to fight fascism and oppression, whether it's in Spain, Nazi
> Germany or Israel," said Smith.
>
> The youngest demonstrator might have been Hanif Amanullah, a four-month-old
> from Oakland who slept in his father's arms. "I'm marching for this little
> guy," said Shahed Amanullah. "I want him to grow up in a world without this
> kind of violence."
>
> Not everyone agreed with how the rallies turned out. Robert Elan, an
> inner-city school teacher in San Francisco, felt that Saturday's actions
> were supposed to be about war, racism and poverty. "Instead of focusing on
> U.S. corporate corruption, the attack on civil liberties ... and celebrating
> the environmental victories just before Earth Day, the multi-issue
> demonstration was dominated by solidarity with the Palestinian people," he
> explained. "Palestinian Independence took the front seat and relegated many
> other important issues to the back seat. By doing so, the rally
> de-emphasized domestic issues and the problems associated with
> globalization. I believe this was a missed opportunity. Some people are
> calling this a huge success for it's large numbers. I think it was rather a
> failure for its impact."
>
> Nevertheless, as John Nichols wrote for TheNation.com, "the size of the
> protests is notable because they come at a time when most political leaders
> and media commentators remain cautious about criticizing U.S. policies.
> Organizers across the country argued that the turnout was evidence that
> there is far more opposition to U.S. policy among the American people than
> the relative silence of official Washington would indicate."
>
> The success of the organizing and the peaceful nature of the protests will
> no doubt open up some political space for larger numbers of people to more
> aggressively pursue a range of issues -- and perhaps give some elected
> officials a little more spine. Furthermore, the presence of large numbers of
> Arab Americans and immigrants represents a breakthrough in the American
> protest movement.
>
> "Clearly the significance of Saturday was that Americans do not support the
> way Bush is handling the war on terrorism, either domestically or
> internationally," said Terra Lawson-Remer. "People came out to say that
> supporting freedom and democracy and opposing terrorism does not mean
> expanding war and cracking down on civil liberties."
>
> Behind the scenes, organizers were congratulating themselves. The fact that
> 75,000 people came out in the streets of D.C. without the backing of
> organized labor suggests that the left has expanded its base. And perhaps
> for the first time, a clear message of common ground was established between
> the anti-war and anti-corporate globalization campaigns -- that they are
> both about promoting justice by challenging the U.S. might, whether military
> or economic, that reinforces U.S. dominance at the expense of many countries
> around the world.
>
> Don Hazen is the executive editor of AlterNet.org.
> ...............................................
>
> Be the change
> you want to see in the world.
> -- Mahatma Gandhi

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