Jeff and Marty - I'd be very interested in doing a multi-week boot camp sort
of program if either of you organize one.  I would have done mountain.rb,
but I couldn't swing the time off (and most of it would have been over my
head at this point).  I'm available next week to talk about scheduling
possibilities - my preference being either earlier morning or evening hours
so I can still work my 9-5...

Thanks!
(Mr.) Kelly Ehret

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>   4. Re: PROMISCUOUS PAIR PROGRAMMING FOR ALL! (Bothari)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:26:00 -0600
> From: Marty Haught <[email protected]>
> To: bdrg <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Boulder Ruby Group] PROMISCUOUS PAIR PROGRAMMING FOR
>        ALL!
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> > Open question to anyone in a similar vein. What do we have for training
> in the area? I would imagine basic Ruby, Rails, and other training would be
> of interest and fairly valuable.
>
> As far as I know, the only public training available regularly is the
> Pragmatic Studio.  I fully agree that having some other alternatives
> would be very useful.  I have even thought about putting something
> together as I've done a couple private training sessions but it's a
> lot of work.  Furthermore, I'm not sure if I want to become a trainer
> as sorts but maybe it would be better for the local community if
> someone did.
>
> Now that I don't have conference organizing taking all of my free
> time, I could ponder putting together a Ruby Bootcamp program.  I was
> originally thinking something that met weekly in the evenings and
> lasted for around 6 weeks.
>
> The other thought along this line was to take on an apprentice to work
> with me on my next project.  Though I would only be willing to take on
> one, it would be very beneficial to that one developer.  Doing a Ruby
> Bootcamp would help more people in a shorter time frame (the
> apprenticeship would likely be a 3 month thing).
>
> Just thinking out loud here.
>
> Cheers,
> Marty
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 05:55:01 +0000
> From: "Jeff Sutherland" <[email protected]>
> To: "bdrg" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Boulder Ruby Group] PROMISCUOUS PAIR PROGRAMMING FOR
>        ALL!
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> Before I was a full-time Ruby developer, I trained school teachers and
> fellow developers in web development (HTML, Javascript and Ruby).  It was a
> lot of fun, and I'd like to do it again.  I would love to help put together
> a Ruby Bootcamp.
>
> - Jeff Sutherland
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marty Haught <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:26:00
> To: bdrg<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Boulder Ruby Group] PROMISCUOUS PAIR PROGRAMMING FOR ALL!
>
> > Open question to anyone in a similar vein. What do we have for training
> in the area? I would imagine basic Ruby, Rails, and other training would be
> of interest and fairly valuable.
>
> As far as I know, the only public training available regularly is the
> Pragmatic Studio.  I fully agree that having some other alternatives
> would be very useful.  I have even thought about putting something
> together as I've done a couple private training sessions but it's a
> lot of work.  Furthermore, I'm not sure if I want to become a trainer
> as sorts but maybe it would be better for the local community if
> someone did.
>
> Now that I don't have conference organizing taking all of my free
> time, I could ponder putting together a Ruby Bootcamp program.  I was
> originally thinking something that met weekly in the evenings and
> lasted for around 6 weeks.
>
> The other thought along this line was to take on an apprentice to work
> with me on my next project.  Though I would only be willing to take on
> one, it would be very beneficial to that one developer.  Doing a Ruby
> Bootcamp would help more people in a shorter time frame (the
> apprenticeship would likely be a 3 month thing).
>
> Just thinking out loud here.
>
> Cheers,
> Marty
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:33:17 -0600
> From: Joshua Timberman <[email protected]>
> To: Boulder Ruby <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Boulder Ruby Group] PROMISCUOUS PAIR PROGRAMMING FOR
>        ALL!
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> As I mentioned at the Boulder Ruby meeting Tuesday, Opscode is also
> interested in having Chef/Cloud focused pairing/hacking "cook offs". Please
> let me know if you're interested in this! Do note that Opscode is based in
> Seattle, and I'm the only one in the Denver/Boulder area. We'll be looking
> for space for these cook offs. If you know someone/somewhere that has space
> available, also please let me know.
>
> Pivotal Labs has kindly agreed to offer some space. We're working out the
> details but probably sometime in December. Thanks Pivotal!
>
>
> On Oct 22, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Prakash N Murthy wrote:
>
> > HAPPY CAPSLOCK DAY FOLKS. And now let me switch back to regular case.
> >
> > Got some terrific feedback for the email I sent earlier querying about
> the interest in regular paired programming sessions. There is a lot of
> interest from many people to have such sessions, and the general perception
> is it is good to have such sessions. Here is Aaron "Tenderlove" Peterson's
> advice - via Chad Fowler - during Mountain.rb. So"Promiscuous Pair
> Programming  for all" will be the mantra for this effort going forward.
> >
> > Some quick notes relating this topic:
> >       ? Some people are already pairing even outside of their regular
> work; some people are interested in getting to work on specific items with
> others.
> >       ? The Boulder based companies are providing many opportunities for
> the local Rubyists to pair:
> >               ? Dojo4 has the weekly Code-n-coffee event every Wednesday
> morning.
> >               ? QuickLeft plans to organize a once a month hackfest
> during the last week of the month. There won't be one this month though as
> they just hosted a big hackfest during Mountain.rb.
> >               ? Pivotal Boulder is planning a Pair-with-a-Pivot-evening
> event where a limited number of people (8 + 8) would work on open source
> projects or any personal projects, pairing with the Pivots. I am
> co-ordinating with Pivotal to organize this sometime in November - more info
> later as we thrash out the details.
> >               ? Foraker Labs is planning a monthly hackfest - tentatively
> planned for the second thursday of every month - to start in November or
> December. The november date (Thu Nov 11th) is not confirmed yet as it
> conflicts with the start of Ruby Conf in New Orleans and many of their staff
> will be in New Orleans.
> >               ? There could probably be more that I am not aware of.
> >       ? At some point in the next 3-4 months, it would be awesome if we
> could organize aCorey Haines' Code Retreat style event in Boulder over one
> weekend. I think its best we build up to it by having regular small size
> pair programming events at one of the numerous Coffee shops in Downtown
> Boulder or at the offices of one of the companies.
> >       ? I have added a separate sheet to the Regular Pair Programming
> sessions in Boulder spreadsheet with a weekly calendar to allow for people
> to list their available time for pairing with others. Do add your
> availability to the spreadsheet, or inform the person whose paired
> programming event you will be joining.
> >       ? As I mentioned in the spreadsheet, I am planning to be at The Cup
> Boulder next week - Monday to Thursday - from 5pm to 8pm; will be useful for
> anyone who wants to work on Ruby Koans or try out TDD with Project Euler
> problems.
> >       ? The above spreadsheet seems to be a non-scalable solution for the
> kind of promiscuous-pair-programming-for-all scenario I am thinking about -
> so am considering building a Heroku-hosted Rails app to manage the regular
> paired programming functionality. Aiming to have it up in the next couple of
> weeks.
> >
> > Thanks for reading this rather long email. Do let me know if you have any
> feedback on this idea.
> >
> > Have an awesome weekend.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Prakash N Murthy
> > (347) 228 3993
> > http://twitter.com/_prakash
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 05:09:48 -0600
> From: Bothari <[email protected]>
> To: bdrg <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Boulder Ruby Group] PROMISCUOUS PAIR PROGRAMMING FOR
>        ALL!
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> I taught a week-long class this summer for gifted and talented kids.
> We used Ruby Warrior on Ubuntu systems, so a good bit of the material
> was too basic for a class like this.  However, we used Chris Pine's
> Learn To Program book, and it was a big hit.
>
> Also, to get started we needed a new version of Ruby installed on
> every box.  Too lazy to it myself, I made a page and had every kid
> copy/paste it into a terminal window.  It's a great way to get them to
> do something, then tell them what they're doing while it's going on.
> http://fairanswers.com/cbk/rvm.html
> Joe
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Jeff Sutherland
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Before I was a full-time Ruby developer, I trained school teachers and
> fellow developers in web development (HTML, Javascript and Ruby). ?It was a
> lot of fun, and I'd like to do it again. ?I would love to help put together
> a Ruby Bootcamp.
> >
> > - Jeff Sutherland
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marty Haught <[email protected]>
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:26:00
> > To: bdrg<[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [Boulder Ruby Group] PROMISCUOUS PAIR PROGRAMMING FOR ALL!
> >
> >> Open question to anyone in a similar vein. What do we have for training
> in the area? I would imagine basic Ruby, Rails, and other training would be
> of interest and fairly valuable.
> >
> > As far as I know, the only public training available regularly is the
> > Pragmatic Studio. ?I fully agree that having some other alternatives
> > would be very useful. ?I have even thought about putting something
> > together as I've done a couple private training sessions but it's a
> > lot of work. ?Furthermore, I'm not sure if I want to become a trainer
> > as sorts but maybe it would be better for the local community if
> > someone did.
> >
> > Now that I don't have conference organizing taking all of my free
> > time, I could ponder putting together a Ruby Bootcamp program. ?I was
> > originally thinking something that met weekly in the evenings and
> > lasted for around 6 weeks.
> >
> > The other thought along this line was to take on an apprentice to work
> > with me on my next project. ?Though I would only be willing to take on
> > one, it would be very beneficial to that one developer. ?Doing a Ruby
> > Bootcamp would help more people in a shorter time frame (the
> > apprenticeship would likely be a 3 month thing).
> >
> > Just thinking out loud here.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Marty
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:50:58 -0600
> From: Charley Baker <[email protected]>
> To: Boulder Ruby <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Boulder Ruby Group] PROMISCUOUS PAIR PROGRAMMING FOR
>        ALL!
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> Definitely something interesting to consider. I've been involved in a
> lot of internal company training classes, as well as some external
> training at conferences. I've worked with my own material and in the
> past year with the Ruby Koans as well. I think it would be a good idea
> to have a few people who are willing and able to teach classes
> locally. Maybe that's something we can talk about on this list or at a
> Bdrg meeting or two, if there's any interest.
>
>  One of my goals in Ruby has been community expansion and involvement.
> It would be interesting to talk to some local Java, .Net, and
> non-programmers who'd like to learn Ruby.
>
>  Just thinking off the top of my head anyhow.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charley
>
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Bothari <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I taught a week-long class this summer for gifted and talented kids.
> > We used Ruby Warrior on Ubuntu systems, so a good bit of the material
> > was too basic for a class like this. ?However, we used Chris Pine's
> > Learn To Program book, and it was a big hit.
> >
> > Also, to get started we needed a new version of Ruby installed on
> > every box. ?Too lazy to it myself, I made a page and had every kid
> > copy/paste it into a terminal window. ?It's a great way to get them to
> > do something, then tell them what they're doing while it's going on.
> > http://fairanswers.com/cbk/rvm.html
> > Joe
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Jeff Sutherland
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Before I was a full-time Ruby developer, I trained school teachers and
> fellow developers in web development (HTML, Javascript and Ruby). ?It was a
> lot of fun, and I'd like to do it again. ?I would love to help put together
> a Ruby Bootcamp.
> >>
> >> - Jeff Sutherland
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Marty Haught <[email protected]>
> >> Sender: [email protected]
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:26:00
> >> To: bdrg<[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [Boulder Ruby Group] PROMISCUOUS PAIR PROGRAMMING FOR ALL!
> >>
> >>> Open question to anyone in a similar vein. What do we have for training
> in the area? I would imagine basic Ruby, Rails, and other training would be
> of interest and fairly valuable.
> >>
> >> As far as I know, the only public training available regularly is the
> >> Pragmatic Studio. ?I fully agree that having some other alternatives
> >> would be very useful. ?I have even thought about putting something
> >> together as I've done a couple private training sessions but it's a
> >> lot of work. ?Furthermore, I'm not sure if I want to become a trainer
> >> as sorts but maybe it would be better for the local community if
> >> someone did.
> >>
> >> Now that I don't have conference organizing taking all of my free
> >> time, I could ponder putting together a Ruby Bootcamp program. ?I was
> >> originally thinking something that met weekly in the evenings and
> >> lasted for around 6 weeks.
> >>
> >> The other thought along this line was to take on an apprentice to work
> >> with me on my next project. ?Though I would only be willing to take on
> >> one, it would be very beneficial to that one developer. ?Doing a Ruby
> >> Bootcamp would help more people in a shorter time frame (the
> >> apprenticeship would likely be a 3 month thing).
> >>
> >> Just thinking out loud here.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Marty
> >> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:33:59 -0600
> From: Jefferey Sutherland <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Boulder Ruby Group] Community Ruby Training
> Message-ID:
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> It looks like there is a lot of interest in doing a community ruby training
> (or more).  Would anyone be available to meet next week to talk about this
> and get it off the ground?  I'm available Wednesday or Friday evening.  We
> could meet in Boulder or somewhere in the North Metro area based on where
> people are located.
>
> - Jeff Sutherland
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