From:  Terry Storm <terrystor...@gmail.com>
Reply-To:  <beagleboard@googlegroups.com>
Date:  Monday, December 30, 2013 at 5:56 PM
To:  <beagleboard@googlegroups.com>
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Angstrom Abandoned for BBB? Rumor + a Rant

> Hi William
> 
> As I said, I have no problem with the BBB hardware.
> I am 100% referring to the software. If the software sucks then to the average
> Joe Bloggs the hardware then also, well, sucks.
> If Joe Bloggs buys a BBB and a cape made by the same company, and there is a
> recommended software to go with it which claims compatibility, then Joe Bloggs
> would rightly expect that the BBB + CAPE + OS will run as advertised, and this
> isnt the case.
Actually, you could always use the v3.2 kernel where everything works just
fine. All the capes work, all the touch screens work. Take a look at Android
for example, they mostly use the v2.6 kernel before v4 and KitKat is still
using v3.4. BTW, everything works on v3.4 kernel. The problem is you want to
use the bleeding edge version of the Kernel and then complain when it
doesn¹t work. Go back to the v3.2 or v3.4 kernel and everything will work
fine.

Regards,
John
> 
> I personally am using but a fraction of what the BBB is capable of doing,
> however I wouldn't have thought using a BBB made by CircuitCo and a LCD Cape
> made by CircuitCo, running the recommended OS with everything as default, and
> finding that the touch does not work and things like the mouse pointer jumps
> all over the screen, kinda not fit for purpose?
> 
> If someone like me buys a BBB + Cape and uses an OS which is recommended and
> claims compatibility, and finds that it doesn't work for something as
> fundamental as the touch screen, is that classed as user error?
> 
> I personally think not.
> 
> I stand by my comment of it being a flop, as if the company does not make a
> profit after selling 100K of a popular product, then really... what was the
> point.
> And in terms of sales and people not being able to get stock, you have to
> start to wonder how many of those are from users reading the marketting and
> thinking that will be great, to find when they get it they have no idea how to
> fix problems they encounter (like me) and so cannot use it as they wanted to.
> 
> Many of the happy people probably dont use Capes as you said. It just sucks
> that the people who designed the cape also design the BBB, and they dont work
> right purely due to the Software. BBB + LCD Cape on Android works fine, so the
> hardware is perfectly fine, but Android is of no use to many so it doesnt help
> much.
> 
> Terry
> 
> On Tuesday, 31 December 2013 14:07:17 UTC+13, William Hermans  wrote:
>> Terry,
>> 
>> I do realize you're mostly aiming your comments at Gerald but let me just say
>> that I think you missed a few key points.
>> 
>> 1) This is not a Dell or common general purpose PC. So you can not expect the
>> same from such hardware. With that said, there is nothing wrong with the
>> hardware. It all works fine, and actually up until recently the only thing
>> that did not work was the SGX/DRM video drivers. Now, that has been resolved,
>> but still in alpha / beta stage (  ish ). Different people seem to have
>> experienced different problems here and there, but think this is very likely
>> mostly user error.
>> 
>> 2) Do you understand the idea of open source hardware ? *.org is usually and
>> possibly always non profit domain name affiliation. What Gerald and his
>> partners have planned I have no idea, but in my own mind the Beaglebone black
>> is far from a flop. Quite the opposite actually when electronics retailers
>> can hardly seem to keep them in stock, because they sell so fast.
>> 
>> 3) If you can pick up a book, or read web pages you can do this yourself.
>> Many in this group will help, even me, when you have a reasonable question to
>> ask. 
>> 
>> Anyways it really suck that this does not seem to be working for you. Just
>> now that many of of are perfectly happy with these little boards. Heck there
>> are a few people who own ten's and possibly even hundred's of these very
>> boards . . .
>> 
>> 
> 
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