Batteries can be had that have a lifetime of 5+ years. Depending on the
type of battery you use. Flooded lead acid ( for RE use ) can have a much
longer life. Especially if the batteries are conditioned / charged
properly.

I've personally bought, and used 10,000 aH D Cells that have lasted 3
years, but failed eventually, because I was using them in a Maglite
flashlight, and had dropped it many times. The point is, where there is a
will, there is a way.

Also, perhaps I am remembering wrongly, but I seem to recall reading that
super caps have a limited lifetime as well. Something about only having so
many charge cycles similar to a battery.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak <
m...@avtechpulse.com> wrote:

> asked anyone at TI if it is OK to use the PMU like this? Perhaps you
>> should post a question on E2E.
>>
>
> From http://e2e.ti.com/support/power_management/pmu/f/200/t/185514.aspx:
>
> "The battery charger should work fine with a supercap.  You'll need to
> make sure the TS (battery temp sense) pin is at a proper voltage to allow
> charging.  If the supercap does not have a temperature sensor, you can
> simply put a 10k resistor from TS to GND."
>
>
>  If you are charging at 440mA, it will take 50 Seconds to reach full
>> charge. What happens when the power fails before that 50 Seconds? I would
>> recommend that you monitor the supercap voltage and wait until it is fully
>> charged before opening any files.
>>
>
> That is why I use full data+metadata journaling on the filesystem.
>
> If an unclean shutdown happens before the supercap is charged, the next
> boot-up will be delayed for several seconds as the filesystem is repaired
> using the full journal. That is annoying, but it is a minor cost for
> robustness. Mostly, the supercap is there to eliminate the need for the
> repair delay.
>
>
>  It is an interesting concept, but I'm still skeptical if this can really
>> work.
>>
>
> Well, I do use it, so that's one data point.
>
> The other main alternative for bullet-proof power-fail robustness is to
> rely on on something like unionfs to provide a mix of read-only and
> read/write filesystems, but that's not so simple either. It's complex and
> not very well supported in general.
>
> Batteries have a fairly limited lifetime, so I don't consider that a
> practical solution (for me).
>
> I'm interested to hear how other people prevent corruption on power loss,
> though.
>
>
>
> - Mike
>
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