We have designed a board based upon the Octavo Systems cSIP, which is a 
step beyond the SIP. They added eMMC, EEPROM and a MEMS oscillator. Many 
layout issues go away using their solution. I have worked extensively with 
the Octavo folks. Very nice people. What I understand is that the company 
was founded by ex-TI people. They provide free design review services that 
uncovered problems with our design. They say they will manage obsolescence 
of the components inside of the cSIP. 

On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 6:18:24 AM UTC-7 hel...@deepsoft.com wrote:

> At Tue, 26 Jan 2021 05:07:26 -0800 (PST) beagl...@googlegroups.com wrote:
>
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you Robert!
> > 
> > I forgot to mention that I'm looking at the BBW, but I think your answer 
> > refers to this one as well.
> > What about the availability between both solutions? My intended 
> development 
> > should be for industry, where they expect very very long product 
> > availability. Would a SIP be better over single components, or does 
> Octavio 
> > face the same problems when any part gets end of life status?
>
> I don't really know. You'll have to talk to the people at TI about that.
>
> > 
> > Is the image really completely the same? No diff config in uboot or 
> > somewhere else? Not easy to compare, because the pinout for both ICs is 
> > different. 
>
> The stock Beagle image works without mods on either. I don't know if there 
> is 
> a difference in the boot loader or if the uboot srcript in the chip 
> EEPPROM is 
> different. If there is, there is suitable firmware included on the image.
>
> > 
> > 
> > hel...@deepsoft.com schrieb am Dienstag, 26. Januar 2021 um 13:54:41 
> UTC+1:
> > 
> > > At Mon, 25 Jan 2021 23:15:36 -0800 (PST) beagl...@googlegroups.com 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hello everybody,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm searching the right hardware for an embedded project. One of the 
> > > Beagle 
> > > > variants is likely to be the right base to start with. Some point I 
> > > > couldn't figure out:
> > > > 
> > > > Why are some boards using the TI AM335x like BBB and others use the 
> same 
> > > > core, but wrapped in a Octavio SIP. I know that it already contains 
> a 
> > > bunch 
> > > > of components board designers place next to the AM335x. But what are 
> the 
> > > > main reasons to choose one or the other? Price? Design complexity? 
> Is it 
> > > > fully software compatible on image level? 
> > > > 
> > >
> > > The PocketBeagle uses the Octavio SIP and the Debian images for the 
> BBB 
> > > work 
> > > just fine on the PocketBeagle, with no compatiblity issues. I think 
> the 
> > > Octavio SIP allows for a more compact board because all of the support 
> > > components are incorporated into a single package. This makes for a 
> > > smaller 
> > > (and cheaper) PCB.
> > >
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