Thanks, William.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 4:04 PM William Bean <wbea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Eric,
>
> Check out the repo for this that is located here:
> https://github.com/beancount/beanprice
>
> There is a little documentation there that you can take a look at, but
> basically you'll want to use:
>

I have read that too.


> bean-price --update ledger.beancount
>
> That will fetch all historical prices (as needed by your ledger) up to the
> current day.
>

Thanks for confirming that it is supposed to fetch historical prices.

Do you know what beancount considers "needed by the ledger"?  I can't seem
to make sense of it; as I reported in my original post, it's not fetching
the prices that it seems to *me* the ledger would need.

I'm assuming bean-price is designed for a different use case than mine and
offers different behavior, but I can't quite figure out what that use case
or behavior is, and without understanding that I can't figure out whether I
can adapt bean-price for my case...




>
> On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 7:39:31 PM UTC-4 erical...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Let me ask a more basic question.  What is bean-price actually supposed
>> to do?
>>
>> Re-reading
>> https://beancount.github.io/docs/fetching_prices_in_beancount.html ,
>> I'm piecing together that perhaps the only thing bean-price does is value
>> your assets as of a certain date.  Is that true?  TBH it's not clear from
>> the docs.
>>
>> There are other uses for prices, e.g., establishing cost basis for a
>> purchase, or establishing the value of the transfer of an asset at a
>> particular point in time be that for income or expenses.  Are there
>> existing plugins that can look up historical prices and annotate
>> transactions with them where they're missing?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 5:54 PM Eric Altendorf <erical...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having trouble understanding how automatic price fetching works, and
>>> I think it's being additionally complicated by questions of price
>>> imputation and maybe PnL accounts.  Let's start with the simplest case.
>>> Consider (commodity declarations omitted for brevity):
>>>
>>> 2020-01-01 * "Buy BTC (from USD)"
>>>   Assets:Coinbase:BTC       0.50000000 BTC
>>>   Assets:Coinbase:USD  -4750.00000000 USD
>>>
>>> I would have expected bean-price to fetch a price for BTC for
>>> 2020-01-01, but instead it fails, saying the transaction doesn't balance.
>>> Now, if I supply a price
>>>
>>> 2020-01-01 * "Buy BTC (from USD)"
>>>   Assets:Coinbase:BTC       0.50000000 BTC @ 9500.0 USD
>>>   Assets:Coinbase:USD  -4750.00000000 USD
>>>
>>> or supply a price spec with no number:
>>>
>>> 2020-01-01 * "Buy BTC (from USD)"
>>>   Assets:Coinbase:BTC       0.50000000 BTC @ USD
>>>   Assets:Coinbase:USDT  -4750.00000000 USD
>>>
>>> then there is no error, but bean-price fetches *today's* price.
>>>
>>> Now let's consider a more complex example:
>>>
>>> 2020-02-01 * "Buy BTC (from USDT)"
>>>   Assets:Coinbase:BTC       0.50000000 BTC
>>>   Assets:Coinbase:USDT  -4750.00000000 USDT
>>>   Income:PnL
>>>
>>> Here, I'd like to fetch the USD prices of both BTC and USDT, which would
>>> allow PnL to be computed, but bean-price fetches nothing.  Now, if I put "@
>>> USD" at the end of the BTC posting (as above), instead of getting the price
>>> on 2020-01-01 (as I desire), or the price today (as in the earlier
>>> example), I get "Too many missing numbers for currency group 'USD'".
>>>
>>> I can't quite figure out what bean-price is doing, or square it against the
>>> documentation
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1thYRAMell_QT1Da1F_laprSs6BlROZjyK_h3V8qHW9c/edit>.
>>> Any tips to get me unblocked?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> eric
>>>
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