I think I agree with this. Is there a specific reason why we need to have the latest and greatest version of tomcat or ant? I have broadband so downloading large files isn't so much a problem for me. Still I know these kind of tools get new versions quite fast so I'm guessing you will get tired of updating beehive after 2, 3 times.

It would probably be easier if you let developers specify the location of their own tomcat and ant installation. Let them worry about the version to run. You can always make a mention in the README about what minimum version they should use.
I think we can already do this though by pointing ANT_HOME and CATALINA_HOME to a different installation.


Sebastian


Rahul wrote:

Just a few thoughts:

I think we should upgrade only if there are "strong" reasons to do that. I
understand there will be numerous bug fixes and improvements to Ant., Tomcat
and other external libs that we use, but the point is to baseline a version
for development(unless we are hitting a "show stopper" block). Of course,
developers should be able to use alternate versions of Ant , Tomcat...etc if
they like but the project should be built and test against what is  "base
lined".

The other thing(and probably not a biggie for fellow developers with high
speed connections)  are SVN updates.It takes ages to update libraries,
especially with a dialup (unfortunately i am on one !). I'd suggest  that an
interested developer should be able to download the requisite libs by
himself and I think its faster (using a download manager) than svn and would
make getting Beehive sources quick !! A readme file could be added to the
project about getting requisite libs from URLs. OR the other thing can be to
place the project dependencies separate from the source and these can be
downloaded in case anyone does not wishes to get dependencies from different
URLs.

Cheers,

Rahul


----- Original Message ----- From: "Eddie O'Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Beehive Developers" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: Tomcat upgrade (WAS: Ant upgrade?)





I'll take care of this in the next day or two assuming there are no
objections.



Kyle Marvin wrote:



NetUI tests should be good enough... there is no significant Tomcat


integration in the Controls runtime other than a dependency on basic servlet
filter functionality for container integration.


-- Kyle





-----Original Message-----
From: Heather Stephens
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Beehive Developers
Subject: Tomcat upgrade (WAS: Ant upgrade?)


Would anybody have time to give Tomcat 5.0.27 a test drive and see how it goes?

At a minimum it seems we should run both checkin tests/DRTs and the
battery of Beehive-NetUI tests.  Should we run anything in the control
test suite as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ias [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:27 AM
To: 'Beehive Developers'
Subject: RE: Ant upgrade?

What about Tomcat? Its 5.0.27 stable version is now available.

Thanks,

Ias





-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie O'Neil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:18 PM
To: Beehive Developers
Subject: Re: Ant upgrade?


I'm doing this now. Will let everyone know when it's finished.

After that, you'll need to update your Ant install on your next




sync.




Eddie



Heather Stephens wrote:





Nobody raised objections.  Eddie would you mind doing the honors?

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddie O'Neil
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:05 PM
To: Beehive Developers
Subject: Re: Ant upgrade?


In smoke testing this just now, an "ant clean deploy




drt" runs fine
on




1.6.2.

Eddie



Heather Stephens wrote:







Hey crew -

Ant 1.6.2 is available.  (http://ant.apache.org/)
Does anybody object to doing an upgrade from 1.6.1?

H.



























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