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Today's Topics:
1. suggested course of action (prad)
2. Where does a real beginner begin? Scheme+SICP? Real World
Haskell? (Greg Morell)
3. course of action (prad)
4. Re: course of action (Keith Sheppard)
5. Re: Where does a real beginner begin? Scheme+SICP? Real
World Haskell? (Patrick LeBoutillier)
6. Re: course of action (Bryce Verdier)
7. Re: Where does a real beginner begin? Scheme+SICP? Real
World Haskell? (Amiruddin Nagri)
8. Re: Where does a real beginner begin? Scheme+SICP? Real
World Haskell? (Marc Weber)
9. Re: course of action (prad)
10. Haskore lib (Luca Ciciriello)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:33:39 -0700
From: prad <[email protected]>
Subject: [Haskell-beginners] suggested course of action
To: haskellbeginners <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <20100618103339.0c3f4...@gom>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
greetings!
i am very intrigued with haskell having acquired some experience in
pascal, elisp, c, perl, mostly python and some sql.
i've been going through various tutorials and the online real world
haskell. i've also been reading through the haskell98 report at
appropriate points.
are there any recommended approaches for learning and studying haskell?
--
In friendship,
prad
... with you on your journey
Towards Freedom
http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website)
Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:57:50 -0700
From: Greg Morell <[email protected]>
Subject: [Haskell-beginners] Where does a real beginner begin?
Scheme+SICP? Real World Haskell?
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I'm not much of a programmer. I've only used PHP and Ruby for the last 10
years. But I've heard so many wonderful things about Haskell, I'd like to
really spend the time to learn it.
No particular purpose, except to broaden my mind and get to know (what I hear
is) a completely different way of thinking about programming.
But what's the best way to start from scratch?
Should I start with "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" book
and Scheme as my intro? Then afterwards, get into the Real World Haskell book?
Or just start with Haskell directly?
Any advice appreciated.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:24:57 -0700
From: prad <[email protected]>
Subject: [Haskell-beginners] course of action
To: haskellbeginners <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <20100617172457.77677...@gom>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
greetings!
i am very intrigued with haskell having acquired some experience in
pascal, elisp, c, perl, mostly python and some sql.
i've been going through various tutorials and the online real world
haskell. i've also been reading through the haskell98 report at
appropriate points.
are there any recommended approaches for learning and studying haskell?
--
In friendship,
prad
... with you on your journey
Towards Freedom
http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website)
Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:46:52 -0400
From: Keith Sheppard <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] course of action
To: prad <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I think building a small, self-contained project that solves a problem
that you are interested in will be a nice compliment to the other
stuff that you're doing and will also leave you with something useful
in the end.
Best, Keith
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:24 PM, prad <[email protected]> wrote:
> greetings!
>
> i am very intrigued with haskell having acquired some experience in
> pascal, elisp, c, perl, mostly python and some sql.
>
> i've been going through various tutorials and the online real world
> haskell. i've also been reading through the haskell98 report at
> appropriate points.
>
> are there any recommended approaches for learning and studying haskell?
>
> --
> In friendship,
> prad
>
> ... with you on your journey
> Towards Freedom
> http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website)
> Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's
> _______________________________________________
> Beginners mailing list
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>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:17:31 -0400
From: Patrick LeBoutillier <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Where does a real beginner begin?
Scheme+SICP? Real World Haskell?
To: Greg Morell <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi Greg,
When I first wanted to learn Haskell (about 18 months ago) I just went
out and bought "Real World Haskell". I didn't have any functional
programming background. I read the first 13 chapters or so, did the
exercises, and all was pretty good.
Then when I got to chapter 13 (Monads) it started to get more
difficult for me. I kept with it though, asked questions on this list
(people are EXTREMELY nice and helpful here), and things got better.
Coming from an imperative background (C++, Perl, Java), I found (and
still do find) Haskell hard. But it's really worth it in the end. It
will open up a whole new way of thinking for you.
Good luck,
Patrick
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Greg Morell <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm not much of a programmer. I've only used PHP and Ruby for the last 10
> years. But I've heard so many wonderful things about Haskell, I'd like to
> really spend the time to learn it.
>
> No particular purpose, except to broaden my mind and get to know (what I hear
> is) a completely different way of thinking about programming.
>
> But what's the best way to start from scratch?
>
> Should I start with "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" book
> and Scheme as my intro? Then afterwards, get into the Real World Haskell
> book?
>
> Or just start with Haskell directly?
>
> Any advice appreciated.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Beginners mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>
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=====================
Patrick LeBoutillier
Rosemère, Québec, Canada
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 22:56:23 -0700
From: Bryce Verdier <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] course of action
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Prad,
I'm new to Haskell as well and I have found doing the problems at
Project Euler has been a good way to give one small tasks to learn
Haskell with.
Bryce
On 06/18/2010 03:46 PM, Keith Sheppard wrote:
> I think building a small, self-contained project that solves a problem
> that you are interested in will be a nice compliment to the other
> stuff that you're doing and will also leave you with something useful
> in the end.
>
> Best, Keith
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:24 PM, prad<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> greetings!
>>
>> i am very intrigued with haskell having acquired some experience in
>> pascal, elisp, c, perl, mostly python and some sql.
>>
>> i've been going through various tutorials and the online real world
>> haskell. i've also been reading through the haskell98 report at
>> appropriate points.
>>
>> are there any recommended approaches for learning and studying haskell?
>>
>> --
>> In friendship,
>> prad
>>
>> ... with you on your journey
>> Towards Freedom
>> http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website)
>> Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's
>> _______________________________________________
>> Beginners mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:48:31 +0530
From: Amiruddin Nagri <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Where does a real beginner begin?
Scheme+SICP? Real World Haskell?
To: Greg Morell <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
If you purpose is only learning Haskell, then you can pick up either
of Real World Haskell or Programming in Haskell (there are also video
lectures available covering this book).
But SICP is something that as a programmer you have to go over once in
a lifetime.
Regards,
Amiruddin Nagri,
Bangalore, 560008, KA
India
Y! IM : [email protected]
GTalk : [email protected]
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Greg Morell <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm not much of a programmer. I've only used PHP and Ruby for the last 10
> years. But I've heard so many wonderful things about Haskell, I'd like to
> really spend the time to learn it.
>
> No particular purpose, except to broaden my mind and get to know (what I hear
> is) a completely different way of thinking about programming.
>
> But what's the best way to start from scratch?
>
> Should I start with "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" book
> and Scheme as my intro? Then afterwards, get into the Real World Haskell
> book?
>
> Or just start with Haskell directly?
>
> Any advice appreciated.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Beginners mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:46:59 +0200
From: Marc Weber <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Where does a real beginner begin?
Scheme+SICP? Real World Haskell?
To: beginners <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <1276929831-sup-6...@nixos>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Excerpts from Greg Morell's message of Fri Jun 18 16:57:50 +0200 2010:
> Or just start with Haskell directly?
You can start with Haskell directly. If you have trouble join the irc
chat or write to this list. People do help.
Also the Haskell wiki on haskell.org provides many information (-> link
called Learning)
Marc Weber
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:54:18 -0700
From: prad <[email protected]>
Subject: [Haskell-beginners] Re: course of action
To: haskellbeginners <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <20100618235418.3d449...@gom>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 22:56:23 -0700
Bryce Verdier <[email protected]> wrote:
> doing the problems at
> Project Euler has been a good way to give one small tasks to learn
> Haskell with.
>
thank you bryce! i'm aware of project euler, but going there hadn't
quite clicked till your post.
thank you also keith for your idea.
and edgar too who suggested the following in an email to my other post
suggested course of action whose duplication i apologize for - i sent
this in and realized i hadn't signed onto the list, unaware at the
time that there was a mod who might put it through).
edgar recommended a gentle intro to haskell which i've been enjoying
since this evening especially since it works with haskell98 report. he
also suggested category theory by awodey which i've downloaded and it
really looks good for making many concepts understandable.
--
In friendship,
prad
... with you on your journey
Towards Freedom
http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website)
Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:36:05 +0200
From: Luca Ciciriello <[email protected]>
Subject: [Haskell-beginners] Haskore lib
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi All.
Is there someone using the library Haskore to handle music in Haskell? I'm
reading some haskore manuals and now I'm a bit confused about the compositional
operators (:+:) and (:=:). These operators are mentioned everywhere in the
manuals, but browsing the library code and trying some examples I just found
the operators (+:+) and (=:=). Which is the difference between (:+:) and (+:+)
and between (:=:) and (=:=)?
Thanks in advance.
Luca.
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