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1. Re: gtk2hs [GIMP ToolKit] (Patrick Lynch)
2. Re: gtk2hs [GIMP ToolKit] (Tim Baumgartner)
3. Re: gtk2hs [GIMP ToolKit] (Patrick Lynch)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:10:40 -0500
From: Patrick Lynch <kmandpjly...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] gtk2hs [GIMP ToolKit]
To: aditya siram <aditya.si...@gmail.com>
Cc: beginners@haskell.org
Message-ID: <4d4dbcd0.5040...@verizon.net>
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Program Files (x86) is a Windows thing...it is used to separate 32 bit
and 64 bit apps...
In regard to installing mingw, I checked the site and haven't a clue on
how to download it...
I'm not a unix guy and i haven't a clue as to what a 'tarball' is...
I'd appreciate any help...
Ciao
On 2/5/2011 3:09 PM, aditya siram wrote:
> Why do you even have a Program Files (x86) folder? Is this a Windows XP thing?
>
> In any case did you install mingw? You should install it fresh form
> the link on the wiki and not depend on the one provided with Haskell
> Platform. This should provide the needed version of pkg-config.
>
> -deech
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Patrick Lynch<kmandpjly...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>> Good afternoon,
>> I uninstalled both Gtk+s...
>> I ran the command again and the previous errors no longer appear - thank
>> you.
>> However, I still get one error, see following: it is: setup.exe:
>> pkg-config version>=0.9.0 is required but it could not be found.
>> Please see following.
>> Good weekend
>>
>> C:\Users\User>cabal install gtk
>>
>> Resolving dependencies...
>>
>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\Gtk2HsSetup.hs:25:
>> warning: #warning Setup.hs is guessing the version of Cabal.
>>
>> If compilation of Setup.hs fails use -DCABAL_VERSION_MINOR=x for Cabal
>> version 1.x.0 when building (prefixed by --ghc-option= when using the
>> 'cabal' command)
>>
>> [1 of 2] Compiling Gtk2HsSetup
>> (C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\Gtk2HsSetup.hs,
>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\dist\setup\Gtk2HsSetup.o
>> )
>> [2 of 2] Compiling Main
>> (C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\Setup.hs,
>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\dist\setup\Main.o
>> )
>>
>> Linking
>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\dist\setup\setup.exe
>> ...
>>
>> &nbs
>> p;&nbs
>> p; Configuring
>> cairo-0.12.0...setup.exe: pkg-config version>=0.9.0 is required but it
>> could not be found.
>>
>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\Gtk2HsSetup.hs:25:
>> warning: #warning Setup.hs is guessing the version of Cabal.
>>
>>
>> &nbs
>> p;
>> If compilation of Setup.hs fails use -DCABAL_VERSION_MINOR=x for Cabal
>> version 1.x.0 when building (prefixed by --ghc-option= when using the
>> 'cabal' command)
>>
>> [1 of 2] Compiling Gtk2HsSetup
>> (C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\Gtk2HsSetup.hs,
>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\dist\setup\Gtk2HsSetup.o
>> ) 
>> ; [2 of 2] Compiling Main
>> (C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\Setup.hs,
>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\dist\setup\Main.o
>> ) 
>> ; Linking
>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\dist\setup\setup.exe
>> ...
>>
>>
>>  
>> ;
>> Configuring glib-0.12.0...setup.exe: pkg-config version>=0.9.0 is required
>> but it could not be found.
>>
>> cabal: Error: some packages failed to install: cairo-0.12.0 failed during
>> the configure step. The exception was: ExitFailure
>> 1
>>
>> gio-0.12.0 depends on glib-0.12.0 which failed to
>> install.&nbs
>> p;
>>
>>
>>  
>> ;
>> glib-0.12.0 failed during the configure step. The exception was:
>> ExitFailure 1
>>
>>
>> &
>> nbsp;&
>> nbsp;
>> gtk-0.12.0 depends on glib-0.12.0 which failed to
>> install.
>>
>>
>>  
>> ; 
>> ;
>> pango-0.12.0 depends on glib-0.12.0 which failed to install.
>>
>> On 2/5/2011 1:01 PM, aditya siram wrote:
>>
>> The paths look ok from here. Please uninstall both your Gtk+
>> installations and reinstall just one. Then make sure your INCLUDE and
>> PKG_CONFIG_PATH refer to it. It's possible you're referring to the
>> 'bin' of one while trying to use the 'include' and 'pkgconfig' of the
>> other.
>>
>> -deech
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Patrick Lynch<kmandpjly...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good afternoon,
>>
>> In the course of doing this, I probably did the installation twice, meo
>> culpa.
>>
>> As fro the environment variables, they are [note: each directory is on a
>> separate line]:
>> echo %PATH%
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Haskell\bin;
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Haskell
>> Platform\2010.2.0.0\lib\extralibs\bin;
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Haskell Platform\2010.2.0.0\bin;
>> C:\Windows\system32;
>> C:\Windows;
>> C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared\;
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio
>> Shared\10.0\DLLShared\;
>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\cabal\bin;
>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\bin;C:\Users\User;
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Gtk+\bin;
>> c:\Program Files (x86)\Gtk+\share\gettext
>> echo %INCLUDE%
>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\include\libglade-2.0;
>> c:\users\user\downloads\libxml2-2.2.7-1_win32\include;
>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\include;
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Gtk+\include
>> echo %PKG_CONFIG% [presumably this should be PKG_CONFIG_PATH,
>> since PKG_CONFIG is not used]: echo %PKG_CONFIG_PATH%
>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\lib\pkgconfig;
>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\lib\pkgconfig\include;
>> c:\users\user\downloads\libxml2-2.2.7-1_win32\lib\pkgconfig
>> echo %LIB% [added just for sake of completeness]:
>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\lib;
>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Gtk+\lib
>>
>> On 2/5/2011 12:31 PM, aditya siram wrote:
>>
>> Why do you have Gtk+ in two folders? Did you somehow install it twice?
>> Also what's in the following environment variable:
>> PATH, INCLUDE, PKG_CONFIG
>>
>> -deech
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Patrick Lynch<kmandpjly...@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good afternoon:
>>
>> Step 1 ['cabal install gtk2hs-buildtools'] ran successfully.
>>
>> This is what 'echo %lib%' gives:
>> C:\Users\User>echo %lib%
>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\lib;C:\Program Files (x86)\Gtk+\lib
>>
>> This is what pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0 gives:
>> C:\Users\User>pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
>> 2.16.2
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> On 2/5/2011 11:59 AM, Tim Baumgartner wrote:
>>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> 2011/2/5 Patrick Lynch<kmandpjly...@verizon.net>
>>
>> This is what I did so far:
>> 1. I followed your wiki
>> 2. I opened Command window and entered the command: cabal install gtk
>> 3. It returned the error messages:
>> * Missing C libraries: z, cairo
>> * Missing C libraries: gobject-2.0, glib-2.0, intl
>> 4. I then ran the command: cabal install gtk
>> --extra-include-dirs="c:/Program Files/Gtk+/include"
>> --extra-lib-dirs="c:/Program Files/Gtk+/include"
>> This returned the same error messages as indicated in step 3 above.
>>
>> Step 1 should already include step 2, so I better ask if gtk2hs-buildtools
>> installed successfully?
>>
>> If the compiler misses some libraries, it will never help to add more
>> include folders, because they only contain header files, not lib files. For
>> missing include files, you get a different error message. For libraries, you
>> have to set up the LIB environment variable properly. It must include the
>> lib folder with Gtk+. Could you show us the result of
>>
>> echo %LIB%
>>
>> at the prompt? The ouput of
>>
>> pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
>>
>> might indicate an error as well. By the way, the environment variables at
>> the command prompt should the sum of those made globally and those made for
>> the current user.
>>
>> Good luck
>> Tim
>>
>>
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>>
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 22:19:06 +0100
From: Tim Baumgartner <baumgartner....@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] gtk2hs [GIMP ToolKit]
To: Patrick Lynch <kmandpjly...@verizon.net>, beginners@haskell.org
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2011/2/5 Patrick Lynch <kmandpjly...@verizon.net>
> Program Files (x86) is a Windows thing...it is used to separate 32 bit and
> 64 bit apps...
>
> In regard to installing mingw, I checked the site and haven't a clue on how
> to download it...
> I'm not a unix guy and i haven't a clue as to what a 'tarball' is...
> I'd appreciate any help...
>
mingw only runs on Windows, because it's the minimalistic GNU for *Windows*
A GUI installer is available here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/Automated%20MinGW%20Installer/mingw-get-inst/
Regards
Tim
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Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:26:42 -0500
From: Patrick Lynch <kmandpjly...@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] gtk2hs [GIMP ToolKit]
To: Tim Baumgartner <baumgartner....@googlemail.com>
Cc: beginners@haskell.org
Message-ID: <4d4dc092.6080...@verizon.net>
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UNCLE! I give up...
I did the dir c:\ and it shows both Program Files and Program Files
(86)...I thought they were necessary to separate 32 bit and 64 bit apps...
I looked at MINQ and ran into a Polish Not Found Page and was completely
dumbfounded by the instructions there...
I've got my database stuff working and I must go thru Monads, to see if
I can understand them...
So, I'm going to leave gtk ... perhaps I can write something in C# or
VB.Net and do the TCL and then use FFI to connect to Haskell...
I'll also take a look at F# and see if it works with Visual Studio...
Thanks for your help and I'm sorry I couldn't get gtk to go...other
'newbies' have got it to work, so it must be me...
Ciao
On 2/5/2011 4:07 PM, Tim Baumgartner wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
>
> 2011/2/5 Patrick Lynch <kmandpjly...@verizon.net
> <mailto:kmandpjly...@verizon.net>>
>
> I reinstalled Gtk* but switched the folder from Program Files
> (x86) to Program Files...
>
>
> I'm sorry, you misunderstood me. Please make sure you read my second
> last post about "Program Files" on Windows 7. I *think* it's no good
> idea to have both "Program Files" and "Program Files (x86)" folders.
> Type
>
> dir c:\
>
> in the console. Then you see the *real* folders, unsugared. In Windows
> explorer or other dialogs, they are sugared, i.e. "Program Files
> (x86)" may appear as "Program Files". When you refer to them in
> Environment variables, I *guess* you have to use the *real* names
> again, like printed in the console. But I currently cannot verify this
> because at home I have only Win XP. But a little experiment should
> help you there.
>
> When I wrote "pkg-config.exe should be in C:\Program Files\Gtk+\bin"
> in my last post, I meant the bin folder of the Gtk+ installation, no
> matter where it is in your installation.
>
> Regards
> Tim
>
>
> I changed all my environment variables to remove Program Files
> (x86)...
>
> Unfortunately, it once again doesn't see the five original
> directories...see following:
>
> * Missing C libraries: z, cairo
> * Missing C libraries: gobject-2.0, glib-2.0, intl
>
> Got me...it seems like the cabal system should know where
> everything is going to be installed - then it should only have a
> dependency on the environment variables if it can't find its files
> in the default locations...
>
> Do you think it would be worthwhile trying an installation using
> Program Files (x86) rather than Program Files [remember, on my PC
> , when doing the gtk installation it wants to do it in Program
> Files (x86)]
>
> Good weekend
>
>
>
> On 2/5/2011 2:38 PM, Patrick Lynch wrote:
>> I hate to tell you this, but gtk* is being installed in Program
>> Files (x86) and not in Program Files...
>> I'll try it again...
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/2011 2:09 PM, Patrick Lynch wrote:
>>> Good afternoon,
>>> I uninstalled both Gtk+s...
>>> I ran the command again and the previous errors no longer
>>> appear - thank you.
>>> However, I still get one error, see following: it is:
>>> _*setup.exe: pkg-config version >=0.9.0 is required but it could
>>> not be found.*_
>>> Please see following.
>>> Good weekend
>>>
>>> C:\Users\User>cabal install gtk
>>>
>>> Resolving dependencies...
>>>
>>>
>>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\Gtk2HsSetup.hs:25:
>>> warning: #warning Setup.hs is guessing the version of Cabal.
>>> If compilation of Setup.hs fails use -DCABAL_VERSION_MINOR=x for
>>> Cabal version 1.x.0 when building (prefixed by --ghc-option=
>>> when using the 'cabal' command)
>>>
>>> [1 of 2] Compiling
>>>
>>> Gtk2HsSetup(C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\Gtk2HsSetup.hs,
>>>
>>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\dist\setup\Gtk2HsSetup.o
>>> )
>>>
>>> [2 of 2] Compiling
>>>
>>> Main(C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\Setup.hs,
>>>
>>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\dist\setup\Main.o
>>> )Linking
>>>
>>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\cairo-0.12.03104\cairo-0.12.0\dist\setup\setup.exe
>>> ...&a mp;nbs p; &n bsp;&nb sp;&nbs p; Configuring
>>> cairo-0.12.0...setup.exe: pkg-config version >=0.9.0 is required
>>> but it could not be found.
>>>
>>>
>>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\Gtk2HsSetup.hs:25:
>>> warning: #warning Setup.hs is guessing the version of Cabal. &a
>>> mp;nbs p; If compilation of Setup.hs fails use
>>> -DCABAL_VERSION_MINOR=x for Cabal version 1.x.0 when building
>>> (prefixed by --ghc-option= when using the 'cabal' command)
>>>
>>> [1 of 2] Compiling
>>>
>>> Gtk2HsSetup(C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\Gtk2HsSetup.hs,
>>>
>>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\dist\setup\Gtk2HsSetup.o
>>> ) &nb sp; ; ; [2 of 2] Compiling
>>>
>>> Main(C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\Setup.hs,
>>>
>>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\dist\setup\Main.o
>>> )& amp;nb sp; ; Linking
>>>
>>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\glib-0.12.03104\glib-0.12.0\dist\setup\setup.exe
>>> ...& amp;nb sp; ; Configuring glib-0.12.0...setup.exe:
>>> pkg-config version >=0.9.0 is required but it could not be found.
>>>
>>> cabal: Error: some packages failed to install: cairo-0.12.0
>>> failed during the configure step. The exception was: ExitFailure
>>> 1&nb sp; ; &nbs p; gio-0.12.0 depends on glib-0.12.0 which
>>> failed to install.&a mp;nbs p; & amp;nb sp; ; glib-0.12.0 failed
>>> during the configure step. The exception was: ExitFailure 1
>>> &nb sp; ;& nbsp; &n bsp; & nbsp; gtk-0.12.0 depends on
>>> glib-0.12.0 which failed to install.& nbsp; ; &nbs p; ;&nbs p;
>>> pango-0.12.0 depends on glib-0.12.0 which failed to install.
>>>
>>> On 2/5/2011 1:01 PM, aditya siram wrote:
>>>> The paths look ok from here. Please uninstall both your Gtk+
>>>> installations and reinstall just one. Then make sure your INCLUDE and
>>>> PKG_CONFIG_PATH refer to it. It's possible you're referring to the
>>>> 'bin' of one while trying to use the 'include' and 'pkgconfig' of the
>>>> other.
>>>>
>>>> -deech
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Patrick
>>>> Lynch<kmandpjly...@verizon.net> <mailto:kmandpjly...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> Good afternoon,
>>>>>
>>>>> In the course of doing this, I probably did the installation
>>>>> twice, meo
>>>>> culpa.
>>>>>
>>>>> As fro the environment variables, they are [note: each directory
>>>>> is on a
>>>>> separate line]:
>>>>> echo %PATH%
>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Haskell\bin;
>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Haskell
>>>>> Platform\2010.2.0.0\lib\extralibs\bin;
>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Haskell Platform\2010.2.0.0\bin;
>>>>> C:\Windows\system32;
>>>>> C:\Windows;
>>>>> C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;
>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio
>>>>> Shared\DLLShared\;
>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio
>>>>> Shared\10.0\DLLShared\;
>>>>> C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\cabal\bin;
>>>>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\bin;C:\Users\User;
>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Gtk+\bin;
>>>>> c:\Program Files (x86)\Gtk+\share\gettext
>>>>> echo %INCLUDE%
>>>>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\include\libglade-2.0;
>>>>> c:\users\user\downloads\libxml2-2.2.7-1_win32\include;
>>>>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\include;
>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Gtk+\include
>>>>> echo %PKG_CONFIG% [presumably this should be
>>>>> PKG_CONFIG_PATH,
>>>>> since PKG_CONFIG is not used]: echo %PKG_CONFIG_PATH%
>>>>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\lib\pkgconfig;
>>>>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\lib\pkgconfig\include;
>>>>>
>>>>> c:\users\user\downloads\libxml2-2.2.7-1_win32\lib\pkgconfig
>>>>> echo %LIB% [added just for sake of completeness]:
>>>>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\lib;
>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Gtk+\lib
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/5/2011 12:31 PM, aditya siram wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you have Gtk+ in two folders? Did you somehow install it twice?
>>>>> Also what's in the following environment variable:
>>>>> PATH, INCLUDE, PKG_CONFIG
>>>>>
>>>>> -deech
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Patrick
>>>>> Lynch<kmandpjly...@verizon.net> <mailto:kmandpjly...@verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good afternoon:
>>>>>
>>>>> Step 1 ['cabal install gtk2hs-buildtools'] ran successfully.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what 'echo %lib%' gives:
>>>>> C:\Users\User>echo %lib%
>>>>> C:\Program Files\Gtk+\lib;C:\Program Files (x86)\Gtk+\lib
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0 gives:
>>>>> C:\Users\User>pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
>>>>> 2.16.2
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/5/2011 11:59 AM, Tim Baumgartner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/2/5 Patrick Lynch<kmandpjly...@verizon.net>
>>>>> <mailto:kmandpjly...@verizon.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I did so far:
>>>>> 1. I followed your wiki
>>>>> 2. I opened Command window and entered the command: cabal install
>>>>> gtk
>>>>> 3. It returned the error messages:
>>>>> * Missing C libraries: z, cairo
>>>>> * Missing C libraries: gobject-2.0, glib-2.0, intl
>>>>> 4. I then ran the command: cabal install gtk
>>>>> --extra-include-dirs="c:/Program Files/Gtk+/include"
>>>>> --extra-lib-dirs="c:/Program Files/Gtk+/include"
>>>>> This returned the same error messages as indicated in step 3
>>>>> above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Step 1 should already include step 2, so I better ask if
>>>>> gtk2hs-buildtools
>>>>> installed successfully?
>>>>>
>>>>> If the compiler misses some libraries, it will never help to add more
>>>>> include folders, because they only contain header files, not lib
>>>>> files. For
>>>>> missing include files, you get a different error message. For
>>>>> libraries, you
>>>>> have to set up the LIB environment variable properly. It must include
>>>>> the
>>>>> lib folder with Gtk+. Could you show us the result of
>>>>>
>>>>> echo %LIB%
>>>>>
>>>>> at the prompt? The ouput of
>>>>>
>>>>> pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
>>>>>
>>>>> might indicate an error as well. By the way, the environment
>>>>> variables at
>>>>> the command prompt should the sum of those made globally and those
>>>>> made for
>>>>> the current user.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>
>>
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