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   1. Re:  Editor choices (Jeff Lasslett)
   2. Re:  Editor choices (Jeff Lasslett)
   3. Re:  Editor choices (Rustom Mody)
   4. Re:  Editor choices (Emmanuel Surleau)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:11:38 +1000
From: Jeff Lasslett <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
To: The Haskell-Beginners Mailing List - Discussion of primarily
        beginner-level topics related to Haskell <[email protected]>
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Hi Amy,

On 19 April 2013 19:13, Amy de Buitl?ir <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jeff Lasslett <jeff.lasslett <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > So I find myself playing around with XMonad source code.
>
> Have you seen the "XMonad deconstructed" videos? They're very well done.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63MpfyZUcrU (part 1)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivdyLaH3PhY (part 2)
>

Yes, I have watched these and i agree with you.  They are quite well done.
 I have found them very helpful.  Sadly they don't touch much on X event
handling within XMonad, which is what I am most interested in.

>
> > I'd like the editor/IDE to tell me the type of a thing, or at least the
> module it is defined in.
>
> Leksah and EclipseFP are two options you might want to consider. You can
> find links to them, and information about other options here:
>

Leksah sound good, although perhaps a little "heavier" than I would like.
 I'm not a huge fan of eclipse, though I may take a look at eclipsefp.



> I myself make do with querying the types in GHCi or Hayoo. I also installed
> the command-line version of Hoogle (see
> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Hoogle), which is very useful.
>

Thanks for this suggestion.  The trouble starts for me when I don't know
what package something is in.  For example ...
*Main> :t guard

<interactive>:1:1: Not in scope: `guard'

I think I looked it up in the index on hackage.  It's times like that when
I long for a hotkey combo that will tell me package and type info for the
item under the cursor.


Thanks,
Jeff
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:51:50 +1000
From: Jeff Lasslett <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
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Hi Magnus,

On 20 April 2013 08:13, Magnus Therning <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 09:45:08AM +1000, Jeff Lasslett wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > So I find myself playing around with XMonad source code.  I'm a long time
> > Vim user and I've made  a tags file to help me navigate the source code.
> >  I've got decent syntax highlighting.
> >
> > What I lack is insight into the libs.  I'd like the editor/IDE to tell me
>
> vim + syntastic + ghcmod-vim: http://www.mew.org/~kazu/proj/ghc-mod/en/
>
> More vim-related goodness for the Haskell programmer:
> http://haskelllive.com/environment.html
>
>
Thanks for this.  I'm picking my way through the env described at the
haskelllive link.  I hadn't discovered neobundle before.  It's great.

Jeff
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:22:37 +0530
From: Rustom Mody <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Jeff Lasslett <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Amy,
>
> On 19 April 2013 19:13, Amy de Buitl?ir <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Jeff Lasslett <jeff.lasslett <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> > So I find myself playing around with XMonad source code.
>>
>> Have you seen the "XMonad deconstructed" videos? They're very well done.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63MpfyZUcrU (part 1)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivdyLaH3PhY (part 2)
>>
>
> Yes, I have watched these and i agree with you.  They are quite well done.
>  I have found them very helpful.  Sadly they don't touch much on X event
> handling within XMonad, which is what I am most interested in.
>
>>
>> > I'd like the editor/IDE to tell me the type of a thing, or at least the
>> module it is defined in.
>>
>> Leksah and EclipseFP are two options you might want to consider. You can
>> find links to them, and information about other options here:
>>
>
> Leksah sound good, although perhaps a little "heavier" than I would like.
>  I'm not a huge fan of eclipse, though I may take a look at eclipsefp.
>
>

Its now a decade since this was written
http://osteele.com/posts/2004/11/ides
Unfortunately the divide remains as true  today :-(

-- 
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:37:04 +0200
From: Emmanuel Surleau <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
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If you're a vim person, I see there is a script to search hoogle within
vim: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=2672

Last version from 2011 though. But syntastic + ghc-mod-vim goes a long way


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Rustom Mody <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Jeff Lasslett <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Amy,
>>
>> On 19 April 2013 19:13, Amy de Buitl?ir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff Lasslett <jeff.lasslett <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>> > So I find myself playing around with XMonad source code.
>>>
>>> Have you seen the "XMonad deconstructed" videos? They're very well done.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63MpfyZUcrU (part 1)
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivdyLaH3PhY (part 2)
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I have watched these and i agree with you.  They are quite well
>> done.  I have found them very helpful.  Sadly they don't touch much on X
>> event handling within XMonad, which is what I am most interested in.
>>
>>>
>>> > I'd like the editor/IDE to tell me the type of a thing, or at least the
>>> module it is defined in.
>>>
>>> Leksah and EclipseFP are two options you might want to consider. You can
>>> find links to them, and information about other options here:
>>>
>>
>> Leksah sound good, although perhaps a little "heavier" than I would like.
>>  I'm not a huge fan of eclipse, though I may take a look at eclipsefp.
>>
>>
>
> Its now a decade since this was written
> http://osteele.com/posts/2004/11/ides
> Unfortunately the divide remains as true  today :-(
>
> --
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> http://blog.languager.org
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