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Today's Topics:
1. Re: HLint: use void instead of return() (Kim-Ee Yeoh)
2. Re: Editor choices (Kim-Ee Yeoh)
3. Re: Editor choices (Hollister Herhold)
4. Re: Editor choices (Jeff Lasslett)
5. Re: Editor choices (Jeff Lasslett)
6. Re: Editor choices (Magnus Therning)
7. Re: Editor choices (Miguel Negr?o)
8. Re: Editor choices (David Virebayre)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:18:12 +0700
From: Kim-Ee Yeoh <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] HLint: use void instead of return()
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:29 PM, harry <[email protected]> wrote:
> So when is void better?
>
The short answer is when you have a single quux. Then void quux is probably
more natural than quux >> return ().
Not having read hlint's code, my guess is that hlint is blindly flagging
instances of blahblah >> return (). Implementing this single quux condition
may only be a tweak away, and I'm inclined to think the maintainer would
happily accept the patch.
Nevertheless David has a good point about void not being in the prelude.
Also, too many void's in the code raises alarm bells for me.
-- Kim-Ee
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:26:04 +0700
From: Kim-Ee Yeoh <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Chadda? Fouch?
<[email protected]>wrote:
> I know the emacs/vim divides run deep but a lot of haskeller make do with
> emacs
It has to be exactly one of
1. vim folks get their work done faster, and so have time to be helpful
2. emacs folks are actually _employed_ and consequently have less free time
on their hands
j/k :)
-- Kim-Ee
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:38:57 -0500
From: Hollister Herhold <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
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I like haskell-mode quite a bit. But the divide does run deep indeed.
You can always run emacs in vi-mode. :)
On Apr 22, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Chadda? Fouch? wrote:
> I'm surprised nobody mentioned emacs, I know the emacs/vim divides run deep
> but a lot of haskeller make do with emacs, haskell-mode contains what you ask
> for (shortcut to ask the type of something to ghci) and much more.
>
> --
> Jeda?
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:22:01 +1000
From: Jeff Lasslett <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
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On 22 April 2013 22:51, carlos gomez <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just to mention, I have seen a plugin for programming in Haskell in
> Intellij Idea; I didn't experiment much with the plugin but Intellij Idea
> is a good IDE.
>
Intellij IDEA is a great IDE. Its Vim bindings plugin is not entirely
stable though, or wasn't when I last used IDEA. AS far as large java IDEs
go IntelliJ is awesome. If their haskell mode is as good as their other
language toolings then it is probably pretty good.
I probably won't go there though. :-)
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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:32:28 +1000
From: Jeff Lasslett <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
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On 23 April 2013 02:11, Chadda? Fouch? <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm surprised nobody mentioned emacs, I know the emacs/vim divides run
> deep but a lot of haskeller make do with emacs, haskell-mode contains what
> you ask for (shortcut to ask the type of something to ghci) and much more.
>
I don't dislike emacs. I'm largely ignorant of it. I just ignore it
really. The first unix editor I learned to use was vi, and I've never felt
the need to look elsewhere.
As I learn more languages I find that I want help with their associated
libraries, more than anything. Learning a language syntax is not so hard,
but it's generally not enough to create useful software. Using the
language to create useful software really means knowing all about the
libraries and frameworks built for use with the language.
As a haskell beginner, that's where I find I want the editor/IDE to help me
out. If emacs helps me then I might just give it a try. :-)
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:50:31 +0200
From: Magnus Therning <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Chadda? Fouch?
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm surprised nobody mentioned emacs, I know the emacs/vim divides run deep
> but a lot of haskeller make do with emacs, haskell-mode contains what you
> ask for (shortcut to ask the type of something to ghci) and much more.
Probably it's not mentioned because the OP mentioned he's a long-term
Vim user. Anyway, Emacs is a wonderful OS, it just lacks a good
editor ;)
/M
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:21:33 +0100
From: Miguel Negr?o <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
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Tue, 2013-04-23 ?s 17:22 +1000, Jeff Lasslett escreveu:
>
>
>
> On 22 April 2013 22:51, carlos gomez <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just to mention, I have seen a plugin for programming in
> Haskell in Intellij Idea; I didn't experiment much with the
> plugin but Intellij Idea is a good IDE.
>
>
> Intellij IDEA is a great IDE. Its Vim bindings plugin is not entirely
> stable though, or wasn't when I last used IDEA. AS far as large java
> IDEs go IntelliJ is awesome. If their haskell mode is as good as
> their other language toolings then it is probably pretty good.
> I probably won't go there though. :-)
Yes, IDEA is amazing, but has anyone managed to get the Haskell plugin
working ? I never did... Is it still maintained. I mostly use eclipseFP
which is quite nice, although not as polished as for instance intellij
IDEA for scala or java.
best,
Miguel Negr?o
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:39:48 +0200
From: David Virebayre <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] Editor choices
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2013/4/23 Miguel Negr?o <[email protected]>
> Yes, IDEA is amazing, but has anyone managed to get the Haskell plugin
> working ? I never did... Is it still maintained. I mostly use eclipseFP
> which is quite nice, although not as polished as for instance intellij
> IDEA for scala or java.
There are people that managed to get the plugin working on the latest
version, ( https://code.google.com/p/ideah/issues/detail?id=22 ) but I
didn't.
IIRC, what stopped me is a wrong version of ghc or libraries, and I
didn't try too much.
David.
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