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1. Re: ANN: MOOC course on Functional Programming (Kelleher, Kevin)
2. Re: ANN: MOOC course on Functional Programming (Rustom Mody)
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Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:33:49 +0000
From: "Kelleher, Kevin" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] ANN: MOOC course on Functional
Programming
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The key question to me is: what kind of time commitment must one make?
Is it one hour a week? An hour a day?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Rustom Mody
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 12:37 PM
To: beginners
Subject: [Haskell-beginners] ANN: MOOC course on Functional Programming
We are offering the Haskell/FP related course:
https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
which goes online if it gathers enough votes.
It is our contribution towards getting Haskell and FP up on MOOC (Massive Open
Online Course).
The aim is:
1. To use Haskell as medium to understand and showcase functional programming
2. To show how using Haskell as a thinking language can change the quality of
programming in more conventional coding languages -- eg python.
It has been designed in the spirit of using haskell to play with ideas, and
then idiomatically refine them for any implementation contexts including
Haskell.
Therefore, in this course (classical) typeful functional programming will take
precedence over (modern) 'type hackery'. Some aspects of this shift of emphasis
is [3].
Also some paradigm/philosophy questions, eg why much-hyped paradigms like OOP
are not such a good idea [4]
Functional Programming has never had it so good as today!
Books like RWH, implementations like ghc, and of course the Haskell language
itself are all part of this 'Never Before.'
spj has often joked about 'avoiding success at all costs'. This may be
somewhat tongue-in-cheek yet is also serious.
As Haskell enters the mainstream and begins to compete head-on-head with C,
C++, Java, Python etc, we need to separate out these aspects:
1. Mastering Haskell is harder today than when FP was an academic passtime
2. Haskell-the-technology is obscuring the possibilities and reach of
Haskell-for-CS
3. The elegant computer science (FP) + powerful modern technology (ghc) is
obscuring the questions of paradigm and perspective that marked the inception
of the field in an earlier era [1]
One of the main intentions behind this course is to take cognizance of these
facts and work on the Haskell-learning-curve to make it accessible to people
with a wide swathe of interests/backgrounds.
So?
Those who are called to the above, Please Vote!
And those who are not called, also please vote [After all the choice is between
this Haskell/FP course and none <wink> ]
Rusi
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[1] Think of AI ? Lisp, Denotational Semantics ? ML, Notation as a tool for
thought ? APL etc
[2]
https://moocfellowship.org/submissions/the-dance-of-functional-programming-languaging-with-haskell-and-python
[3] A shopping-list of topics in 'classic FP' :
http://blog.languager.org/2012/10/functional-programming-lost-booty.html
Recursion as a wider concept than just recursive functions
http://blog.languager.org/2012/05/recursion-pervasive-in-cs.html
[4] Folly of OOP
http://blog.languager.org/2012/07/we-dont-need-no-ooooo-orientation-4.html
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 12:45:14 +0530
From: Rustom Mody <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Haskell-beginners] ANN: MOOC course on Functional
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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Kelleher, Kevin <[email protected]>wrote:
> The key question to me is: what kind of time commitment must one make?***
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It of course depends on how much practice you (intend to) put in, your
abilitiy levels etc.
It should average at probably 4-6 hours a week.
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