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1. Is a ghc package the same as a cabal package? (Philippe Sismondi)
2. Re: Is a ghc package the same as a cabal package? (Kim-Ee Yeoh)
3. Re: Is a ghc package the same as a cabal package?
(Brandon Allbery)
4. Re: Is a ghc package the same as a cabal package?
(Philippe Sismondi)
5. Re: Is a ghc package the same as a cabal package?
(Philippe Sismondi)
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:26:23 -0500
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Is a ghc package the same as a cabal package? As far as I can tell they are
not. I mean "package" as defined by the documentation for each.
In the ghc documentation it states that "A package specification is a Haskell
record". A Cabal package seems to be a collection of stuff including the .cabal
file etc.
Finally, does Hackage use the term "package" differently again?
Rant: package and/or build systems are the bane of my existence in any
non-commercial language that I use. Sigh. I have been using Cabal and
cabal-install naively (read "blindly") for long enough; time to come to grips
with it.
Thanks, if anyone has time to help.
- P -
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Philippe Sismondi <[email protected]>wrote:
> Rant: package and/or build systems are the bane of my existence in any
> non-commercial language that I use. Sigh. I have been using Cabal and
> cabal-install naively (read "blindly") for long enough; time to come to
> grips with it.
You are not alone.
It's true that cabal works smoothly for lots of users lots of the time. But
when it doesn't, it's murder.
-- Kim-Ee
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:46:54 -0500
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Philippe Sismondi <[email protected]>wrote:
> Is a ghc package the same as a cabal package? As far as I can tell they
> are not. I mean "package" as defined by the documentation for each.
>
Start here: http://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/sicp.xhtml
Briefly: a cabal package is a collection of source code, metadata, and
build instructions to create a ghc package. Hackage is a collection of
cabal packages.
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:56:20 -0500
From: Philippe Sismondi <[email protected]>
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Thanks, all. That helps.
The ambiguous use of the term "package" was tripping me up. Kind of like when I
didn't know that "cabal" invokes "cabal-install", and (more recently) that I
invoke "cabal-repl" by typing "cabal repl".
Funny that understanding the problems created by ambiguity in source code does
not seem to prevent us as a community from f**king up our use of natural
language, naming, documentation etc.
Back to work.
Best,
- P -
On 2014-02-18, at 12:46 PM, Brandon Allbery <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Philippe Sismondi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> Is a ghc package the same as a cabal package? As far as I can tell they are
> not. I mean "package" as defined by the documentation for each.
>
> Start here: http://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/sicp.xhtml
>
> Briefly: a cabal package is a collection of source code, metadata, and build
> instructions to create a ghc package. Hackage is a collection of cabal
> packages.
>
> --
> brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates
> [email protected] [email protected]
> unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad http://sinenomine.net
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:32:21 -0500
From: Philippe Sismondi <[email protected]>
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Actually - feeling a bit guilty here.
I just found the passage in the Cabal documentation that treats the issue of
ghc versus cabal packages.
That's probably not the last time I'll post before the RTFM step, but my
apologies anyway.
- P -
On 2014-02-18, at 11:26 AM, Philippe Sismondi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is a ghc package the same as a cabal package? As far as I can tell they are
> not. I mean "package" as defined by the documentation for each.
>
> In the ghc documentation it states that "A package specification is a Haskell
> record". A Cabal package seems to be a collection of stuff including the
> .cabal file etc.
>
> Finally, does Hackage use the term "package" differently again?
>
> Rant: package and/or build systems are the bane of my existence in any
> non-commercial language that I use. Sigh. I have been using Cabal and
> cabal-install naively (read "blindly") for long enough; time to come to grips
> with it.
>
> Thanks, if anyone has time to help.
>
> - P -
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